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This is a good solution marrying God with the laws of Physics at the creation of the Universe?

Friday, September 10th, 2010

Let’s go to analyze this question from a new approach? We have the free will for to choose if we will be a closed system (dominance of selfish gene) or an opened system. God, evolution, or whatever want us evolving. And closed systems are closed doors to evolution. When a creature chooses to be a closed system he can built a paradise and accommodate itself in thermodynamic equilibrium. But since the Universe, God, or whatever, cannot permit someone stops evolution, applies the Law of Clausius, entropy, which makes the Fall from the Paradise and the creature began again in middle of chaos. Slowly it will get the state of order for evolving.

On the pathway of evolution there is the shape of mind, or consciousness, which shape is at embryonary state inside eggs, the human heads, since that it was born less than a second of astronomic time. Then, there is this thing about eggs: from primitives organisms to reptiles the eggs were laid out, the offspring abandoned to chaos, random events and tragedies. From the mammalian cyanodont to human specie the eggs are kept inside de womb, the offspring is nurtured till the birth and sometimes to the eighteens. Today humanity, and its mind, is at the state of eggs laid out. You see it living in the jungle: the biosphere is chaotic. Then, it should means that we came from a state of extreme closed system, a paradise built by our ancestors.

Why should an intelligent and benevolent God make such a plan for evolution? There is a rational possible answer.

Long time ago and before the universe, a hermaphrodite God shared into Father and Mother had a son with all love of the world. But, growing the son showed to be unhappy. Why? He had everything? He was the son of the supreme king!

He could not be happy because he was not the king, were not him that made the world, so, he feels that was not totally free, omnipotent. Then he left the God rein saying that should doing his own world, by his way, where he should be the supreme king.

Crying, Father and Mother God saw him leaving. Then, Father said to Mother: “Let him to build his own world, which he is thinking will be the perfect world, better than the world we did. He will make the first world, experiment it and will be not satisfied. He will make the second, the third, a lot of different worlds; he will forget us and our world. Then, one day, after thousands, millions of experiments, he will finally do the best world and will feel happy. Not totally. He will feel alone. It will be missing something, something like him, with the same intelligence, to share his rein, with love. It is not like a man wanting a woman, because spirits are hermaphrodite. And  because  the best  world he can do must be the mirror of our world his mind will have flashes of memory, scenes of his infanthood at a place where has someone like him, who loves him,

Then he will travel to the infinite searching the scenes of his mind. Arriving here he will be happy to know we exists, just someone like him, and will invite us for living in his world. We will go. Why? Because his world will be the same world we have now. There is no possibility to do a most than perfect world. It will be his illusion: he made the world. He is the supreme king. And we will be with him with love. Just like here. Anything will change, only his feeling that he is the final supreme: but he will be satisfied to concede to us the sharing of the ruler. Like now we share with him the power of the ruler. Let he to think that he is God.

So, this son was called Lucifer. And he is us, just now, trying to lift up from the fragmentation of our last built world for to do the next experiment.

Of course, this smell likes a tale. Merely a product of human imagination. It is probable that there a lot of unknown dimensions and things we don’t know, and the real history could be different. But whatever could be the history, whatever the first cause we are here and whatever the final destiny, the supreme meaning, the ultimate sense of existence, could be the meaning extracted from this tale.


God did not create the universe, says Hawking

Tuesday, September 7th, 2010


God did not create Universe: Hawking 

AFP/File – God no longer has any place in theories on the creation of the Universe due to a series of developments …

You can see the article at Yahoo News, which has great repercussion ( lol, there are 49.500 comments in Yahoo already!)


New series of rational theories made the laws of physics as creator of the universe redundant (see for instance, the Universal Matrix Theory or the last model off a Universe without a Big Bang published here last week)). The Universe is not scientific falsiable yet, either “the nothing”. Take a sample: the human body. The first and primitive order of phenomena is under the laws of physics. But atoms are under the level of chemistry. And Physics and chemistry are under the biological organizational level. And driving the actions of the entire body, there is the minded level.

Facing the world (maybe a super-agglomerate of agglomerates of universes) we are like particles inside atoms watching only the physical level. Nobody can say how should be the biological or minded level of the world. And is rational to think they exists, because we can see human bodies and we can see that the universe is not magic, so, it only can do things which has at some another place or time or dimension.

Hawking is losing the control of his mind. I hope it is not happening with another’s scientific ethics and behavior. But, as I said here before, LUCA, the model of our Last Universal Common Ancestor, has people like Hawking as his agent here, trying to get the final control of expression of our selfish genes. Why Hawking? See this:

Hawking lost his sensorial human complex. He is informed about the external world through an electro-mechanic brain and he feels the external world throughout the sensors and tentacles of that brain.

The first time human beings got the tools that are extensions of our sensorial complex (like telescope, microscope, thermometers, radars, television, radio, etc) for to see larger horizons of the external world began a distortion of our natural world view. Because those tentacles are mechanics, they discriminate dates, selecting only those at physics laws level. Newtons’ science and his astronomical watch model is the best sample. When we got the computer as a mechanistic projection of our brains’ configuration and abilities, we attached those sensorial tentacles to the computer and sent it to the micro and macro dimensions for watching them and bring on to us, informations.

That was the first interaction between our natural brain and the electro-mechanical brain. The natural brain was at the command; it was the instructions command invisible code behind the robots. Then the computer got the first packet of informations and feed the natural brain. Based on this packet, the natural brain re-wired the electro-mechanical brain and sent it back. A new packet came. But, of course, the natural brain was being re-wired by the electro-mechanical brain and his kind of external world perception. This succession has continued and the natural brain is no more at the command, anymore. Then appeared Hawking with his disease which makes him the best representative of the machine among us.

Final results?

Our modern world view is not produced by our natural brain, it is produced by the electro-mechanic brain with its own sensorial complex. He cannot grasp the biological or minded level, the natural systems that are performed at those levels, so, it can’t grasp the forces and influences that came from the hierarchy of systems and acts over any natural object.

The modern world view is something like this:

1)      The origins and first machines, the ancestors of the electro-mechanic brain were based on the explosion motor. So, the universe began with an explosion;

2)      The final mean of a machine existence is triturate prime matter, as information, for to produce new products. So, the final means of the universe is the creation of new products by matter fined tunneled for doing it. With no purpose, because the machine does not recognize the human being that created it.

3)      The life of the machine is the gearing that came-and-go. So, the universe is an infinite expansion and contraction…

We see that LUCA, our ancestor, made the big mistake of doing the goals of the matter composing it: the thermodynamic equilibrium state as closed system. The genetics of LUCA was fragmented by entropy, which created the chaos at planets’ surfaces, and that genetic charge is trying to lift up under the state of order towards that closed system again. We are a byproduct of this goal, we inherited the LUCA’s genetic. This is the reason of our selfish genes. So we are surrounded by the environment modeled by LUCA and the goal of LUCA is inside our genetics. We are going to make the eternal paradise again over Earth and under the command of the Big Mother. A kind of Admirable New World.

  • I don’t know the true. I have no scientific data for to prove this theory. Maybe the Earth Paradise is the best for us. But I am worried because I am afraid that in The Admirable New World human beings are the losers, because they are like parts of a machine and lose the control and liberty of their minds. I am not sure about that. Maybe the destiny pointed out by Stephen Hawking is the best for human kind. So, I am a blind man but not a irresponsible one, I will not make followers, I am not trying to sell or imposing my theory. I will follow the path that my mind want, alone, or doing partnership with somebody else that thinks like me.

Portuguese to English translation ( from here, it is missing the correction of translation)

What physics has of concrete so far? In short a lot, it all starts with the quantum field theory. It would be a kind of vacuum without matter, without any particle material, but is not nothingness, the void is not total, because electromagnetic waves exist in this space. Whence came or electromagnetic waves, I do not know if physicists know. But from them – with the help a lot of theories such as broken symmetry, the gauge-bosons, the Higgs Mechanism – arise massless particles that acquire mass, like the hypothetical set-Higgs bosons. All this was introduced on a large, final Toer called The Standard Model, which would be sufficient to explain the existence of the universe. For this theory become confirmed will be necessary to prove that the Higgs-boson particles really exist, so they spent a fortune building the largest bump into Geneva. While such Higgs bosons are not found, everything remains what it is today: theory. But still, to prove not only that the universe was just a material existence, one must know how was the creation of the universe, to which we need a broader theory that the Standard Model. So they are looking hard and she appeared in this sense a five string theories or string theories. None is sufficient in itself in spite of going deeper than the Standard Model. Munusculas exist strings when the strings are stretched like a guitars, vibrate, but instead of musical notes produce particle materials, ie, matter, and with it, the universe and us. Maybe that vibration was the producer of electromagnetic waves – but do not know yet what physicists are thinking. And of course, is the question: where they came from the strings? Perhaps the answer, do not know. Then recently came the M-Theory, which seems that meets all five string theories and reveals itself as the Theory of Everything. Finish! The job is done! It proves everything that exists and how it came from nothing spontaneously. It is this theory that Hawking is working and he thinks when he says that the laws of physics solved the problem without requiring the creation of God (note that it does not say God does not exist. Fortunately it does not touch on this issue. He just says that the universe does not God needs to be created. What is different from saying that God does not exist.)

I need time to investigate it since no one dares me to explain it in short words, but I think the problem for physics resolve the ultimate question is to explain not only the existence of Higgs bosons, but also the provenance or origin of electromagnetic waves filling the void.

I feel very comfortable in this storm all because it really is so – the last thing, the last frame of Truth is the scene of total emptiness filled with electromagnetic waves that create matter, the Higgs bosons-first – whether there is something even besides all this, as a God or a multiverse, the fundamental basis of the theory of matrix was confirmed: this universe is a genetic reproduction, a simple process between father and son, where father and son are a natural Darwinian species, composed of a substance : mental. Why? Because I see the last production of the universe in these parts that is the human being, endowed with four levels of organization of matter: the physical, chemical, biological and mental. It is possible that the mental can not be included here because it is not material, that is, as Fritjof Capra theorized, it is possible that the mind is just a process that emerges from the brain. A brain dies, it vaporizes the mind. But I see this mental process as a scene where a network, a network of filaments of energy producing waves of energy, perhaps electromagnetic, the background resulting from the flow of signals at the synapses between neurons. However, if the mind is expressed through a process of electromagnetic waves, this means the end of the universe meets your own beginning: because the beginning is the quantum field empty padded only by electromagnetic waves. But now I know what it is and where it comes from the electromagnetic waves: the mind. It would be a creative mind the origin of everything and the only thing that would remain the end of evolution, the existence of everything? Hopefully the Physical dating or not, the Higgs bosons. All expectations are focused now that the 12 km tunnel underneath Geneva. If not found, the laws of physics are no concrete foundation. For in the same way that we can formulate the overwhelming question: and where it came from God? we can formulate the withering question and where it came from the laws of physics?

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The article:

Stephen Hawking Says God Did Not Create the Universe: What Do You Think?

And Comments

Posted by:
w5dxp 8:26 AM

Man is one of the great apes and shares 95+% of his DNA with chimpanzees, one of the other great apes. With few exceptions, all living things, including man, share common sections of DNA – 26% between man and a single-celled yeast. One can argue that evolution is just a tool in God’s toolbox and doesn’t say anything about where the first DNA came from. The universe is about 12.5 billion years old. Humans came into being something like 250,000 years ago. One wonders what God was doing for the other 12 billion years?

My answer as Austriak727 12:18 PM

You said: One wonders what God was doing for the other 12 billion years?

Answer: He was busy creating the other thousand of billions species of extraterrestrial life in the whole universe.

You said: Understanding spontaneous mutations of DNA over a billion years is key to understanding evolution.

Answer: But, the Evolution Theory didn’t prove that understand mutation. The belief about transcriptional error by chance is not proved experimentally. There is the more rational theory about feedback between shape (phenotype) and content (genotype) from the Universal Matrix Theory, but then mutations does not occur by chance. They occur from the relation individual/environment which is previous designed by Cosmological Evolution which came before the Big Bang. It is possible there is a porpoise and there are anything proving that it is was not made by some god.  

You said: One can argue that evolution is just a tool in God’s toolbox and doesn’t say anything about where the first DNA came from.

Answer: The models of Universal Matrix/DNA Theory have rational suggestion about where the first DNA came from. The fundamental unit of DNA, nucleotide, came from the entropy and fragmentation of Earth/Sun life cycle proto-system. DNA is merely the biological shape from a matrix existing at atoms and galaxy systems which can be resumed into a kind of primordial quantum vortex, which came beyond the universe and Big Bang. While you do not prove how Nature made the first biological DNA, there is no proof that some god was not necessary.

The Laws of Physics alone cannot prove if this universe is not under (like the human body is) the chemistry, biological and/or minded organizational level of matter. Quantum Field Theory need to show where the hypothetical electro-magnetic waves filling the void come from, for to prove that is not manifestation of the mind of some god.

Ok, but, if Mr. Hawking say so, bring on the universe over the table for experimental test. I promise to you that if we found some god inside we will send the FBI to arrest him, because he lies telling that he created the universe.

For to be considered:

“To expand a bit on my reasoning of the First Law of Thermodynamics (Basically, you can’t make something from nothing)…. If we MUST rely on Science, as you infer, we have to accept that the First Law of Thermodynamics is broken in order to have what we now call the Earth, Galaxy and Universe. Because it is here, and you claim that it arrived here from nothing. That is a Law that is broken. So – for those of you that are reading this hogwash from Mr. Hawking you have to accept this. But by doing so you must have to accept the fact that the First Law of Thermodynamics is FALSE. Therefore, By “REASON” (this is another portion of the Science Def.) By Reason, we must conclude that Science is unreliable based upon this observation I just stated. I’m sorry Mr. Hawking, but your theory has too many holes punched in it and your ad-hock ideas are the religion because it takes a whole lot more faith to believe your side than it does mine, with MY Creator God,…”


this is sounding more and more like a new religion to me.time will tell…. :)
Posted by:
moominmona Sep-7
Even Einstein had to consider something higher than ourselves. In his 1949 book The World as I See It, he wrote: “A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms…”
like the level of phenomenons studied by physic?
jack59801 “That is my point, he can’t definitively say God did not create the universe if he can’t answer the question as to how gravity came about. It is too open ended.
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TGIF7 Sep-7