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Origens da Vida: Evidencias para Abiogeneses – 4 Novos Papers

terça-feira, julho 18th, 2017

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Evidence for abiogenesis: Scientists are now able to simulate early Earth conditions in the laboratory. They observed the formation of precursors to RNA and DNA, amino acids and nucleic acids (>50 types), via entirely naturalistic processes. NO divine “creation” is involved.

http://www.pnas.org/content/112/3/657.abstract https://phys.org/news/2015-03-chemists-riddle-life-began-earth.html

https://phys.org/news/2015-06-evidence-emerges-life.html https://www.nasa.gov/content/nasa-ames-reproduces-the-building-blocks-of-life-in-laboratory

Origens da Vida: Academica evidencias for abiogenesis? ( 4 papers)

segunda-feira, julho 3rd, 2017

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Ver estes links, copiar os papers e traduzi-los neste artigo… obtidos no debate no video do Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyhZcEY5PCQ&lc=z13pjnu43knzvj2qx04cdtdgdtzovrn4u34.1499025023358620

God of War 白起 – 5/02/2017
Evidence for abiogenesis: Scientists are now able to simulate early Earth conditions in the laboratory. They have observed the formation of precursors or “building blocks of life”, such as amino acids and nucleic acids, via entirely naturalistic processes. NO divine “creation” is involved. http://www.pnas.org/content/112/3/657.abstracthttps://phys.org/news/2015-03-chemists-riddle-life-began-earth.html
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https://www.nasa.gov/content/nasa-ames-reproduces-the-building-blocks-of-life-in-laboratory

NASA Ames Reproduces the Building Blocks of Life in Laboratory

NASA scientists studying the origin of life have reproduced uracil, cytosine, and thymine, three key components of our hereditary material, in the laboratory.  They discovered that an ice sample containing pyrimidine exposed to ultraviolet radiation under space-like conditions produces these essential ingredients of life.

Os cientistas da NASA que estudaram a origem da vida reproduziram o uracile, a citosina e a timina, três componentes-chave do nosso material hereditário, no laboratório. Eles descobriram que uma amostra de gelo contendo pirimidina exposta à radiação ultravioleta sob condições semelhantes ao espaço produz estes ingredientes essenciais da vida. A pirimidina é uma molécula em forma de anel composta de carbono e nitrogênio e é a estrutura central para uracile, citosina e timina, que são todas as três partes de um código genético encontrado em ácidos ribonucleicos (ARN) e desoxirribonucleicos (DNA). O ARN eo DNA são fundamentais para a síntese protéica, mas também têm muitos outros papéis. “Demonstrou pela primeira vez que podemos fazer uracile, citosina e timina, os três componentes do RNA e do DNA, não biologicamente em um laboratório em condições encontradas no espaço”, disse Michel Nuevo, cientista de pesquisa da NASA Ames Research Centro, Moffett Field, Califórnia. “Estamos mostrando que esses processos de laboratório, que simulam condições no espaço exterior, podem fazer vários blocos de construção fundamentais usados ​​pelos organismos vivos na Terra”. Uma amostra de gelo é depositada em um substrato frio (aproximadamente -440 graus Fahrenheit) em uma câmara, onde é irradiado com fótons de alta energia ultravioleta (UV) de uma lâmpada de hidrogênio. Os fotões de bombardeio quebram os laços químicos nos ices e quebram as moléculas do gelo em fragmentos que se recombinam para formar novos compostos, como uracilo, citosina e timina. Os cientistas da NASA Ames foram simulando os ambientes encontrados no espaço interestelar e no sistema solar externo há anos. Durante esse período, eles estudaram uma classe de compostos ricos em carbono, chamados de hidrocarbonetos aromáticos policíclicos (HAP), que foram identificados em meteoritos e quais são os compostos mais ricos em carbono observados no universo. As HAPs geralmente são estruturas baseadas em vários anéis de seis carbonos que se assemelham a hexágonos fundidos ou a um pedaço de fio de galinha. A molécula de pirimidina é encontrada em meteoritos, embora os cientistas ainda não conheçam sua origem. Pode ser semelhante aos HAP ricos em carbono, na medida em que pode ser produzido nas explosões finais das estrelas vermelhas gigantes, ou formadas em densas nuvens de gás e pó interestelar. “As moléculas como a pirimidina têm átomos de nitrogênio em suas estruturas de anel, o que as torna um pouco pessimizadas. Como uma molécula menos estável, é mais suscetível à destruição por radiação, em comparação com suas contrapartes que não possuem nitrogênio”, disse Scott Sandford, Pesquisador de ciência espacial da Ames. “Queríamos testar se a pirimidina pode sobreviver no espaço e se pode sofrer reações que a transformam em espécies orgânicas mais complicadas, como o uracilo, a citosina e a timina das nucleobases”.
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Pyrimidine is a ring-shaped molecule made up of carbon and nitrogen and is the central structure for uracil, cytosine, and thymine, which are all three part of a genetic code found in ribonucleic (RNA) and deoxyribonucleic acids (DNA). RNA and DNA are central to protein synthesis, but also have many other roles.

“We have demonstrated for the first time that we can make uracil, cytosine, and thymine, all three components of RNA and DNA, non-biologically in a laboratory under conditions found in space,” said Michel Nuevo, research scientist at NASA’s Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California.  “We are showing that these laboratory processes, which simulate conditions in outer space, can make several fundamental building blocks used by living organisms on Earth.”

An ice sample is deposited on a cold (approximately –440 degrees Fahrenheit) substrate in a chamber, where it is irradiated with high-energy ultraviolet (UV) photons from a hydrogen lamp.  The bombarding photons break chemical bonds in the ices and break down the ice’s molecules into fragments that then recombine to form new compounds, such as uracil, cytosine, and thymine.

NASA Ames scientists have been simulating the environments found in interstellar space and the outer Solar System for years.  During this time, they have studied a class of carbon-rich compounds, called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), that have been identified in meteorites, and which are the most common carbon-rich compound observed in the universe.  PAHs typically are structures based on several six-carbon rings that resemble fused hexagons, or a piece of chicken wire.

The molecule pyrimidine is found in meteorites, although scientists still do not know its origin.  It may be similar to the carbon-rich PAHs, in that it may be produced in the final outbursts of dying, giant red stars, or formed in dense clouds of interstellar gas and dust.

“Molecules like pyrimidine have nitrogen atoms in their ring structures, which makes them somewhat wimpy.  As a less stable molecule, it is more susceptible to destruction by radiation, compared to its counterparts that don’t have nitrogen,” said Scott Sandford, a space science researcher at Ames.  “We wanted to test whether pyrimidine can survive in space, and whether it can undergo reactions that turn it into more complicated organic species, such as the nucleobases uracil, cytosine, and thymine.”

Nucleobases structures
Pyrimidine is a ring-shaped molecule made up of carbon and nitrogen and is the central structure for uracil, cytosine, and thymine, which are found in RNA and DNA.
Credits: NASA

In theory, the researchers thought that if molecules of pyrimidine could survive long enough to migrate into interstellar dust clouds, they might be able to shield themselves from destructive radiation.  Once in the clouds, most molecules freeze onto dust grains (much like moisture in your breath condenses on a cold window during winter).

 

Nucleobases cytosine thymine image

The ring-shaped molecule pyrimidine is found in cytosine and thymine.
Credits: NASA

These clouds are dense enough to screen out much of the surrounding outside radiation of space, thereby providing some protection to the molecules inside the clouds.

Scientists tested their hypotheses in the Ames Astrochemistry Laboratory.  During their experiment, they exposed the ice sample containing pyrimidine to ultraviolet radiation under space-like conditions, including a very high vacuum, extremely low temperatures (–440 degrees Fahrenheit), and harsh radiation.

They found that when pyrimidine is frozen in ice mostly consisting of water, but also ammonia, methanol, or methane, it is much less vulnerable to destruction by radiation than it would be if it were in the gas phase in open space.  Instead of being destroyed, many of the molecules took on new forms, such as the RNA/DNA components uracil, cytosine, and thymine, which are found in the genetic make-up of all living organisms on Earth.

“We are trying to address the mechanisms in space that are forming these molecules.  Considering what we produced in the laboratory, the chemistry of ice exposed to ultraviolet radiation may be an important linking step between what goes on in space and what fell to Earth early in its development,” said Christopher Materese, another researcher at NASA Ames who has been working on these experiments.

“Nobody really understands how life got started on Earth. Our experiments suggest that once the Earth formed, many of the building blocks of life were likely present from the beginning.  Since we are simulating universal astrophysical conditions, the same is likely wherever planets are formed,” says Sandford.

Em teoria, os pesquisadores pensaram que, se as moléculas de pirimidina pudessem sobreviver o tempo suficiente para migrar para nuvens de poeira interestelar, elas poderiam se proteger de radiação destrutiva. Uma vez nas nuvens, a maioria das moléculas congela em grãos de poeira (muito como a umidade na sua respiração se condensa em uma janela fria durante o inverno).

Essas nuvens são densas o suficiente para detectar uma grande parte da radiação externa circundante do espaço, proporcionando assim alguma proteção às moléculas dentro das nuvens.

Os cientistas testaram suas hipóteses no Ames Astrochemistry Laboratory. Durante o experimento, expuseram a amostra de gelo contendo pirimidina à radiação ultravioleta sob condições semelhantes ao espaço, incluindo um vácuo muito alto, temperaturas extremamente baixas (-440 graus Fahrenheit) e radiação áspera.

Eles descobriram que, quando a pirimidina é congelada em gelo consistindo principalmente em água, mas também amônia, metanol ou metano, é muito menos vulnerável à destruição por radiação do que seria se estivesse na fase gasosa em espaço aberto. Em vez de serem destruídas, muitas das moléculas assumiram novas formas, tais como o RNA / DNA uracile, citosina e timina, que são encontrados na composição genética de todos os organismos vivos na Terra.

“Estamos tentando abordar os mecanismos no espaço que estão formando essas moléculas. Considerando o que produzimos no laboratório, a química do gelo exposto à radiação ultravioleta pode ser um importante passo de ligação entre o que se passa no espaço e o que caiu na Terra no início Em seu desenvolvimento “, disse Christopher Materese, outro pesquisador da NASA Ames, que trabalhou nesses experimentos.

“Ninguém realmente entende como a vida começou na Terra. Nossos experimentos sugerem que uma vez que a Terra se formou, muitos dos blocos de construção da vida provavelmente estavam presentes desde o início. Como estamos simulando condições astrofísicas universais, o mesmo é provável onde os planetas são formados “, Diz Sandford.

Luz: Fotons nos Eletrons

quinta-feira, junho 8th, 2017

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Prova cientifica da sugestao da Matrix/DNA Theory de que nas origens da vida, photons solar e nuclear trerrestre adentravam eletron assumindo a maquinaria atomica e digirindo os atomos a combinacoes biologicas como projecao da formula.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light

EMR in the visible light region consists of quanta (called photons) that are at the lower end of the energies that are capable of causing electronic excitation within molecules, which leads to changes in the bonding or chemistry of the molecule.

EMR = Eletro-magnetic-radiation

Origem da Vida: Descrição Da Primeira Química para Leigos

domingo, junho 4th, 2017

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What drives the molecules to be ordered by themselves? is there an ordering force? How do yo know that first molecules that got some level of order, kip that order during millions of years? I can tell a story of how the Mona Lisa painted alone without human intervention, will you believe that tale? No? why no?, I can not believe in your tale
To Jorge Juarez: I believe you may not understand how chemistry works. I will try to explain in layman’s terms.
RNA/DNA did not just form by themselves. At first, there were extremely simple replicating molecules. How this works is that when these molecules come into contact with certain chemicals, they bind. Certain molecules will bind to certain parts of the molecule. Some of these happen to be a “reverse” copy; they bind in the opposite order.
When all spots have been filled, the new molecule splits at these sites, and thus replicates. It splits do to opposite forces. These first molecules were only 5-6 atoms in length; very simple. Because these molecules could replicate, they eventually became very common, and thus were everywhere.
Now, it is common knowledge that molecules can undergo changes (chemical reactions). Sometimes, these changes would make these molecules replicate faster by becoming more attractive (more binding spots). Sometimes they would become more stable (harder to break). Etc. Now, because these changes would make these molecule “superior” (they were able to replicate better than previous versions), they would become very numerous. And just like before, after time they would become extremely common.
Now, this process would repeat, and repeat, and repeat. Each time getting just SOMEWHAT slightly more complex. Repeat this process millions of times, and its not hard to see where DNA came from. The reason the molecules kept that order is because once they started replicating, there were tons of them. So even if most got destroyed, there were always extra because they replicated. What you have to also understand is that there are TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS of different chemical combinations possible.
Even infinite. So it is not unlikely that at LEAST one of these combinations could produce a self-replicating molecule. Also, there are 10000000… molecules in the Earths oceans, undergoing chemical reactions. So its not really hard for life to form.
The analogy of the Mona Lisa does not work, because dna did not just fully appear. It took millions of small very simple steps in order to finally emerge. The process took millions-billions of years.
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+Jorge Juarez  – Because we do not know the exact conditions of early Earth. That is why we are unable to replicate it. That is the whole point; we are trying to find the conditions of early Earth. We have an idea, but its too long ago to know exactly. Thus, scientists are trying different methods and environments. We are slowly narrowing it down. The key is replicating the EXACT same conditions. Given that this was 4 BILLION YEARS AGO, I think a lot of credit is due to the fact we ALREADY have RNA forming in labs. This I think is your misunderstanding. We DO know how life formed. We DO know the process. What we don’t know is the environment.

Origem da Vida: Video e Debate com Matrix/DNA

sábado, junho 3rd, 2017

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Neste video ha um debate em que participo com muitos posts. Aqui farei o script dos posts e tentarei trazer os posts para ca…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyhZcEY5PCQ&lc=z12rtxmiipbfz1ake22vcfh4lymvcpskj.1496220005938083

 Post by Matt C – 6/3/2017
Louis Charles Morelli  – but there is no way to tell if there was an original propagation of light carrying genetic information, so the chances of you having discovered it I’d say are pretty slim. there are no astronomical bodies with the same configuration as a nucleotide. carbon atoms have not got the same configuration as any astronomical bodies, apart from solar systems in the fact that they both have a central round thing being orbited by several smaller presumably round things. I’ve looked on your website and it simply shows that you came up with your theory first and then looked for evidence for it which resulted in you making random slight parallels into evidence to fit your theory. your theory holds no logic, no credibility and no evidence.
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1) there is no way to tell if there was an original propagation of light carrying genetic information
Matt C – I will answer with several posts, ok?
1) there are no astronomical bodies with the same configuration as a nucleotide
Louis Charles MorelliLouis Charles Morelli – 6/3/2017
Matt C – I will answer with several posts, ok?
1) there are no astronomical bodies with the same configuration as a nucleotide
Of course, not. I did not said that. Before explaining this in other words, Matt C, I need remember something. Sorry but our modern academic Sciences has a big hole in its method that is responsible for Science weakness today, as in the issue of diseases, etc. The big hole is about “natural systems”. For example, the Genoma Project was believing in ” one disease, one gene”. Venter discovered that it is not, each disease is due a network of spread genes in the DNA. But,… the DNA is a messy of millions systems, each one composed by a number of genes, so, the right is: “each disease, each genetic-system”. It happens that no Science field knows what is a real natural working system. If they knew it, they would be able to identificate and separating each genetic system, then, identifying the system producing each disease.
But, knowing what is a natural system is very easy, because Nature knows only one kind of system, which has been applied since the Big Bang for organizing matter/energy in a workable way, in architectures. This universal system is a formula, which we can translate it as a the must simplest diagram of software ( its appearance is simplest but its network hided all complexity we know in Nature. When you understand the whole thing, you learn to identifying what is hidden)).
It is like saying: ” All species of living things has in common, a biological formula, called DNA “. Then, you can say: ” All natural systems, be it electric-magnetic (atoms, etc.), mechanic (astronomic systems), biological ( living beings),… has in common, a universal DNA, a formula, called ( this is my chosen name, you can chose other), Matrix/DNA. What we know by a building block of DNA is merely the biological shape of a universal formula that is driving universal evolution since the Big Bang.) This formula makes the internal structure, the energetic circuit, the flow of informations, the systemic configuration, the parts and the nucleus of all known natural system.
Why the whole staff of academic and private Science did not get it ? Science began in the right way for humans, with the reductionist method, which is opposite, or complementary, to the systemic method. Our scientific instruments could grasp ( seeing the whole body) corpuscular structures, but not the network of connections among structures. There were some intuitions towards systems, like Margullis and its symbiotic theory, or Fritjof Capra, with “The Tao of Physics”. Then came Bertallanfy trying to do what Francis Bacon did with the reductionist method: a big initial theory of systems, a collection of everything that had some systemic appearance. But not knowing what is a system, how it is composed, how it works, where to grasp a synapse of connection between two parts, his big job stopped by century. Then, some Mathematicians and Physics, as Wiener, Rosemberg, etc, take the approach but thinking about systems as computational cybernetics. It is not this way that natural system works and is revealed. And nobody went back to Bertallanfy for resuscitating the systemic approach, the scientific knowledge is zero today. They are confusing systems with merely slices of processes inside a whole system.
I can’t say more in this post, but I have 30 years seeing the world, each natural phenomena, from this systemic perspective, always identifying the formula at each phenomena and getting a specific interpretation that fits very well in the big picture – from the Big Bang to consciousness. If you are interested in natural systems, you can tell here, we will continue in other posts.
So, you are right: there is no astronomical body with same configuration of nucleotide. I am saying that the system to which any astronomical body belongs has the configuration ( the same natural formula, or Matrix/DNA ) that has not a nucleotide, but a lateral base-pair of nucleotides with two sugars and four nitrogenous bases, which composition is a complete working system. But you need see over the table the model of an astronomical system, at the side of the Matrix/DNA formula, at the side of a nucleotide system, for understand it. Cheers…
( continuar respondendo os topicos abaixo)
3) carbon atoms have not got the same configuration as any astronomical bodies
4)you came up with your theory first and then looked for evidence for it which resulted in you making random slight parallels into evidence to fit your theory
5) your theory holds no logic, no credibility and no evidence.
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so how life started?

Louis Charles MorelliLouis Charles Morelli – 6/3/2017

Ok, you are in a good track. You are not convinced by people that think inside the box. They think that knows how life started and you know that they doesn’t know. Maybe you find the answer thinking outside the box. i did it and I find an answer that makes sense. Let’s go trying it? Your own life started with a Big Bang, when the membrane’s spermatozoon exploded inside an ovule. if you put over the table the shapes of the Universe from the Big Bang till galaxies ( where cosmological evolution became biological evolution at Earth), and at the side, you put the shapes of your body from that big bang to morulae, blastulae, you will see the same shapes. So, if your own life started and evolved same way of the Universe, it means that life did not started at Earth, but at the first moment of the Universe. There was no origins of life here. Lol… never nobody said that, this is thinking outside the box, really
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Texto-resposta para Jay C ( postou a uma semana atras), que nao foi publicado pelo site fora do ar:
Jay C – My two cents here. Hm Grraarrpffrzz explained Materialistic Evolution (ME) in a brilliant way and his counter-arguments about the Christian God showed that this belief does not make sense, but still you can save something of God. Pay attention that ME’s hypothesis only postergate the problem of DNA information to another question: where the RNA information came from? And that DNA replication explains DNA formation does not explain the formation of the first DNA or RNA, or any biological molecule. Where were at the physical world before life’s origins something that was replicating itself? Nobody answered this question. But your assertion that information from chemicals to life was a kind of message or code and message only comes from intelligence is not true. There is no genetic code, no message in the DNA. For explaining it let’s apply another question: There are 8 billion humans. Each human has something different from all others, so, we can say that each human is a unique and specific information. Something he/she will do different from all others. Could we say that Humanity ( the sum of 8 billion humans) is a code, or a message? No. DNA is a pile of millions of different individuals, the fundamental unit of information: a lateral base-pair of nucleotides. It happens that each lateral base-pair of nucleotideos is a system in itself. It is just the universal formula of natural systems, where the two sugars at the strands are F1 and F4, and the four bases are F2,F3,F6 and F7. A fifth base, uracil , is responsible for these systems reproductions into new systems. All these millions of systems are derivation from a universal template, like all humans are derivations of a human species shape. Since this formula is the template of the – not only Earth environment, but the whole inter-galactic environment – and biological organization of matter is merely a process of reproduction of the whole galactic system, the environment produces new copies of DNA’s units for to develop this process. So, there is no genetic code, there is no message, there is no origins of life and there is no abiogenesis. There is a universal reproduction of a unique system coming from the Big Bang, being transformed into new shapes (atoms>galaxies>RNA/DNA’s building blocks>cells>monkeys>…). Ok, at monkeys, materialistic evolution opens the door to a ex-machine being and here maybe a kind of God is possible. I will explain: Each human baby’s brain expresses consciousness at 6 or 8 month of embryognesis. But, you know, it is not the baby’s brain creating consciousness first time in the Universe, it already was existing at human species, outside the little universe of the embryo. It happens that we are seeing this ” consciousness” existing as potentiality and under evolution since the Big bang as the identity of any ancestor system. Consciousness was sleeping at atoms, dreaming at galaxies, beginning to wake up at cells and now it is a fetus or embryo inside humans heads, an embryo that still has no opened its own eyes for to see its own body. If human babies takes 6 or 8 months for expressing consciousness from its parents, and humans are the shape of the universal system here and now, it means that the ex-machine system takes astronomical 13,8 billion years. What is the problem? It is relativistic to size, time, etc. So, this universe is merely an agglomerate of galaxies like the placenta is an agglomerate of cells and inside this universal placenta is occurring a natural process of genetic reproduction of the unknown ex-machine conscious natural system existing beyond the universe. So, something from God is safe… yet. But, please, not the absurd Bible’s God, a pregnant mother and the father does not make interference at the work of the genes building their baby. Be happy that you ( as part of all conscious beings working just now at millions of galaxies ) will be one baby that will born at the end of this universal placenta, at the day of the Big Birth. ( but, ok, I only suggested to you a new theory based on Naturalistic Ex-Machine Evolution. Cheers…

Origem da Vida: Nova Descoberta discute: Fundo de Oceanos ou Lagos na Superficie?

quinta-feira, maio 11th, 2017

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Baseado no artigo ( ver meus comentarios postados no artigo e copiados abaixo):

Phys.ORG

Oldest evidence of life on land found in 3.48-billion-year-old Australian rocks

May 9, 2017

https://phys.org/news/2017-05-oldest-evidence-life-billion-year-old-australian.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter

Fossil evidence of early life has been discovered by UNSW scientists in 3.48 billion year old hot spring deposits in the Pilbara of Western Australia – pushing back by 3 billion years the earliest known existence of inhabited terrestrial hot springs on Earth.

Previously, the world’s oldest evidence for microbial on land came from 2.7- 2.9 billion year old deposits in South Africa containing organic matter-rich ancient soils.

“Our exciting findings don’t just extend back the record of life living in by 3 billion years, they indicate that life was inhabiting the land much earlier than previously thought, by up to about 580 million years,” says study first author, UNSW PhD candidate, Tara Djokic.

“This may have implications for an origin of life in freshwater hot springs on land, rather than the more widely discussed idea that life developed in the ocean and adapted to land later.”

Scientists are considering two hypotheses regarding the origin of life. Either that it began in deep sea hydrothermal vents, or alternatively that it began on land in a version of Charles Darwin’s “warm little pond”. ( read the article, link above)

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Morelli  – posted 5/9/2017
The land surface hypothesis is more plausible for life’s origins than the deep oceans, because abiogenesis needed sun’s energy. There are seeds for life everywhere inside galaxies because these seeds are galaxies’ genome. The destiny of any seed is the quality of the place it falls. But there is a big difference between biological systems and other systems non-carbon based. It is possible other kinds of “life” based on every element which the atomic number be multiple of seven in the periodic table, because these elements repeats all properties of carbon. (These are suggestions from Matrix/DNA Theory)
starfart – 5/9/2017
This looks like a marvelous find. I have no doubts that the materials examined exhibit good evidence for microbial life in the surface hot spring setting. However, I don’t see why this finding should dismiss seafloor hydrothermal vents as a potential setting for the origin of life. Its a bit puzzling that evaporate deposits on surface hot springs are stressed as a ‘concentrator’ of complex biogenic material as if undersea hydrothermal precipitate processes aren’t capable of doing that as well. In the end, though, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if it turns out that either or both settings figured prominently in the origin of life. This isn’t an either-or dichotomy. Both hydrothermal vents and surface hot springs have the same important suite of properties for biogenesis…and they were no doubt equally ubiquitous on the early Earth
Morelli – 5/9/2017

“Both hydrothermal vents and surface hot springs have the same important suite of properties for biogenesis…and they were no doubt equally ubiquitous on the early Earth.”

Maybe you have found the exactly point. Matrix/DNA Theory has suggested that the first cell system ( aka, living thing) needed 50% of a planet’s nucleus energy and 50% of a star energy. The planet’s energy is able to build the primordial molecules and some organelles ( less mitochondria and chloroplasts) and no DNA, only RNA. The last elements are build with the concourse of a star energy. Than, it is possible that life began at thermal vents but was finished at land surface.
We are based on our theoretical model of a seed for life, which is a kind of astronomical genome at microscopic level.

 

 

Origem da Vida: Longo e Complexo Levantamento Contra a Visao Academica

sexta-feira, maio 5th, 2017

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http://creation.com/origin-of-life-critique

The origin of life: a critique of current scientific models

Reler o artigo pesquisando cada termo.

 

63 bases do DNA invariante em todas as formas de vida? Pesquisar.

sexta-feira, maio 5th, 2017

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Mike Bellamy Mike Bellamy 1 week ago (abril,2017)

The title is “How Life Started”.! but there is no other observation than the creation of some random amino acids. Life is then just assumed to have formed from these. Assumptions like this only hide the real problems they are not solutions.
For example there is a chain of 63 specific DNA bases which is invariant in every known life form (Marcus Chown). Since no creature has only part of this sequence it shows it must be complete for cellular life to exist. But that means a chance event must arrange a chain of 63 R-handed nucleotide bases in that specific order complete. Since they are handed (2) with (4) possibilities for each that means the chance is 1/(8^63)… That’s 1 in 10^7.8e56 which just supports what Francis Crick (co discoverer of DNA) said at the time “not on this planet”..
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Pesquisa:
– Marcus Chown –
– 63 R-handed nucleotide bases

A Descoberta que Originou a Teoria da Origem da Vida No Fundo Oceanico

quinta-feira, maio 4th, 2017

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D69hGvCsWgA

Louis Charles Morelli Louis Charles Morelli – May-5/4/2017

The seed of life coming from astronomic systems is complete when the energy of a planet’s nucleus meets the energy of a star. If hydrothermal vents brought the planet’s energy to the planet surface, then, life began at the beach. These deep ocean vents can create half of a cell, or the first molecules till some organelles. But the first complete cell – a real true living thing – needs the sun energy, from developing the others cell’s elements. Science will discover that this biochemical photosynthesis is degeneration of plant photosynthesis, as these living things at deep sea. Instead evolving to amphybians, they went back to deep sea due some atractors. At least, this is what is suggesting the models of Matrix/DNA Theory

Otimo Video Sobre Pesquisas da Origem da Vida nas Rochas

sexta-feira, abril 28th, 2017

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Ao alcançar um nível intelectual o ser humano fica desesperado em saber o que ele é, e para isso ele precisa antes saber como a vida surgiu neste mundo de rochas, gases e água. Primeiro ele teorizou que a vida começou pelos gases sob relâmpagos elétricos e tentou reproduzir a atmosfera inicial da Terra num tubo de ensaio onde aplicou descargas elétricas. Conseguiu a formação de umas moléculas de aminoacidos parecidas com as usadas pela vida mas estas moléculas nunca deram o passo evolucionário seguinte, que seria elas formarem proteínas, RNA, etc. Desanimado nesta hipótese veio a teoria da sopa primordial, em algum pântano ou na lama no fundo de oceanos sob ventos vulcânicos… mas também não conseguiu o estalo inicial. Agora um novo grupo esta crendo na teoria de que as intrigantes reações químicas nas superfícies de minerais e rochas de todos os tipos podem ser a chave para o mistério. Dessa linha de pesquisa trata este vídeo, muito bem elaborado e informativo.

Porem… tem um zé ninguém por ai, um semi-macaco saído da selva amazônica, americano de origem brasileira, sem diploma cientifico, que me aparece com uma outra nova teoria, a principio totalmente estapafúrdia e diferente, mas o cara tem arrolado tantas evidencias e tem uma certa logica na coisa que… Bem, no Youtube, na seção de comentários deste vídeo, este cara se intromete com um comentário o qual copio abaixo:

Origin of Life – How Life Started on Earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyhZcEY5PCQ

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Louis Charles Morelli Louis Charles Morelli  – 4/27/2017

Lol! Now it is rock? No soup anymore?And no gases under electric strikes? I still prefer Matrix/DNA Theory: soup, rock, gases, were the ingredients for the hardware of life. But… where was the software? It is simple: bits-information in shape of photons resulted from the fragmentation due entropy that attacked our astronomic system. They fall at planets’ surfaces and if there are good conditions, they reproduces the system where they came from.
These photons invade electrons inside atoms and creates networks of atoms like neurons emitting synapses, be it inside rocks, soup, gases, or a mixed cake of everything.
The big fault for human intelligence is due our wrong astronomic theoretical models. Planets, stars origins, galactic formations, our theories about are wrong. There are seven kinds of astronomic bodies, there were seven organelles, elements, in the first cell system. These astronomic bodies are arranged as a working system, almost biological. It is the fundamental unit of information of a galaxy. But its configuration and shape is just the same of an unit of information of our RNA/DNA.
It means that biological DNA is a formula evolved from the formula that builds atoms and galaxies. This formula is called Universal Matrix/DNA. You can see this formula and the theoretical models of astronomic systems at my website. I got it applying comparative anatomy between all natural systems, from atoms to human beings.
It is losing time searching how life began at Earth, we need search how the first biological system began. Only changing this word “life” which is a wrong concept, and we see the need for linking cosmological and biological evolution in one unique lineage. Or we learn how to study the photons coming from the sun and the Earth’s nucleus or we will need wait that spatial exploration fix our knowledge of our truly creator.