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segunda-feira, dezembro 10th, 2012

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Louis Charles Morelli

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Where the Bible’s authors got the idea of Adam and Even from? In the beginning of this Universe there were quantum vortexes, spin left and right. Two vortex = phenotype= symmetry. Two spins=variables of genotype= asymmetric. These vortex was fragments, bits-information from the system ex-machine=genes. Today we have human male and female= same specie=symmetry. With opposite tendencies= asymmetry. The ancients had fresh memories about non-living times when ours ancestors built the galaxies.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

I have a question to evolutionists:

This night I was reading about light, electric magnetic spectrum and so on. I think the deepest foundations of this material world is like an ocean of lightwaves still propagating from the pulsation that began with Big Bang. Instead of luminous light we see the deep darkness because it blind us. Matter is this condensed light becoming particles. So, the world is all white, bodies are unseen. We see it colored. Is it not an evidence of intelligent design? 5:51 PM – Dec – 18

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Louis Charles Morelli

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

A suggestion to Bill Nye: “All human beings still are blind facing the mysteries of existence. All beliefs, all amount of evidences, are still changing, they are merely temporary. So, don’t be the blind man that lies to others that you can see and you knows the right pathway. As you are blind, you could drive they to fall into the holes of this journey. Let the doubt be taught to the children, ID is not plausible facing the evidences now, but it maintains the challenge to blind evolution. 6:00 PM – Dec. – 16 – 2012

Louis Charles Morelli

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Humans and apes are two products of “creation” not understood by evolutionists and two products of “evolution” not understood by creationists. In blastula, billions of cells “evolve” and differentiate to form different organs, all directed by a prior reproductive plan to “create” a new organism. Likewise all the different lifeforms are being directed to form different parts of a new machine, a biosphere that will be the reproduction of this astronomical machine. We need save our mind. 8:37 AM – DEC – 17


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Edmond Goo 6 days ago

No one knows what the mechanism for evolution is.

I’m sorry but that is the truth.

You can ask scientists, Creationists, and evolutionists and no one will be able to tell you the mechanism for evolution unless it’s “mutation” (a laugh riot). Even evolutionist data disproves mutation as an engine of anything unless it’s extreme defects like two human heads or lungs born outside the body.

Evolution has no center and no mechanism.

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1-We can describe all mechanisms composing the natural process of evolution. The evolution from a state of the world where the most complex system where galaxies for cells system, comprising the period of abiogenesis. Not the modern galaxies but the original galaxy grew in an environment containing only gaseous and solid state of matter. With six kinds of pieces (organs) built by six universal systemic functions and more one piece responsible for replication (see picture at Matrix/DNA) this (cont)

2-system reached the supreme goal of matter: mass in inertial equilibrium and energy in accelerated motion under thermodynamic equilibrium. A perfect machine, a kind of motor perpetuum. Attacked by entropy the peripheral mass/energy fails internally by degradation/radiation towards the nucleus.  But in their way there are bodies as planets. The mass can be added to planets’ matter (will be catalysts), and arrives the decayed photons which  penetrates the atoms. These photons were trained (cont)

3-as components of a machine and like virus they try to driven atoms towards connections that mimics the galactic configuration. But now the environment is different because appeared the third state of matter, the liquid, chemistry, so, will be there a severe mutation. Connected photons inside different atoms gets new arrangements of matter, called organic. Carbon is chosen as central atom because its atomic number of each particle, 6, is the most exactly copy of that galactic system. (cont

4-Composing aminoacids which are sequential slices (20)/functions of the systemic circuit and making then expressing different functions we get proteins/enzymes. At same time another group of photons are getting completes copies of the celestial system, which are called “nucleotides”. Other group of photons coming from stellar radiation located at the nest of stars around the nucleus driven atoms to build vesicles (the central black holes) and membranes (event of horizon).(cont)

5-When these groups meets they increase the sequences and reproduces the left side of the face of galactic system, called RNA. Made the left and using the seventh function ( n.5, replication) they built its own right face, DNA. A unique body, molecule, under the process of life cycle gets different shapes which are the organelles. Finally you have the first cell system. Now you can extract from here the seven mechanisms, the whoole process, which is far more complex than Darwinian theory.

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DNAunion 2 hours ago

Actually, the Bible tells us that the serpent told the truth and that god lied.

God said that the day they ate the fruit they would die; the serpent said they surely would not. They ate the fruit and the didn’t die that day.

Serpent: 1

God: 0

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Louis Charles Morelli 37 minutes ago

In the mind of ancient ascetics, there were flashes produced by scenes registered into their DNA at the center of their neurons. Scenes of obscures bodies as spheres, cones, vortexes connected by a perfect energetic circuit. Suddenly, the scenes shows the system falling apart, being fragmented and its bits lifting up as human beings. It were scenes about an unknown world but surely floating in the sky. The whole insertion of god and talking serpents were the results searching explanations.

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DNAunion 2 minutes ago

Fuck off, sock puppet asshole troll.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

You said: “Actually, the Bible tells us that the serpent told the truth and that god lied. Serpent: 1

God: 0 ”

Instead acting like you, wasting your time reading a mythological book, for denying it based on reading another opposite interpretations, I am wasting my time trying to do my own connection of real known data. And I am discovering a real world totally strange for you, as it is also for creationists. Ok, ours time are ours times and everyone has the right to chose how waste it.

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Alan Clarke 1 week ago

@Martin Koch “you have an assertion that can’t possibly be tested”

We both have to make assertions for a starting point. I start with a fully-formed Adam. You start with a rock. In my model, Adam’s descendents slowly degrade. In your model, a very genetically-anemic rock becomes alive (minerals mix in a primordial soup & get struck by a lightning bolt) and lots of mutations accumulate until people appear. We can’t recreate Adam in a laboratory but neither can you duplicate abiogenesis.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

There is a third assertion suggesting rational models about the “body of Adam” – without supernatural ingredients – and the model of lightwaves that drove abiogenesis without randomness. It is called “Matrix/DNA Theory” and the models are scientifically testable. Yes, a little bit of more natural knowledge, the corrections of our current astronomical/cosmological models and we will be able to recreate “yours Adam” and duplicate abiogenesis in the lab.

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DNAunion 1 hour ago

Actually, the Bible tells us that the serpent told the truth and that god lied.

God said that the day they ate the fruit they would die; the serpent said they surely would not. They ate the fruit and the didn’t die that day.

Serpent: 1

God: 0

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

In the mind of ancient ascetics, there were flashes produced by scenes registered into their DNA at the center of their neurons. Scenes of obscures bodies as spheres, cones, vortexes connected by a perfect energetic circuit. Suddenly, the scenes shows the system falling apart, being fragmented and its bits lifting up as human beings. It were scenes about an unknown world but surely floating in the sky. The whole insertion of god and talking serpents were the results searching explanations.

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DETigers2012 53 minutes ago

Eve fell into temptation when Satan told her that eating from the tree of life would make her like God, obviously it was a lie

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Is this myth the imaginative explanation for the bad design of actual human existence at this chaotic biosphere? Accordingly with modern cosmological models about the state of the world moments before life’s origins, the myth is surprisingly right! Symbols, metaphors, describing a system more complex than Newtonian celestial mechanics! Eve and Adam were the dual symmetric flow of energy/information composing the systemic circuit of the most evolved astronomical system and ancestors of (cont)

chromossomes X and Y (see the picture at Matrix/DNA Theory). Satan is the symbol for closed systems, which is the supreme expression of selfishness because a closed system cut relations with the world and stops evolution. Tree is the same shape of that galactic system: the trunk is the central axis, the blanches are the spirals, the fruits are the stars pending at the arms, etc. The insect societies mimics very well the astronomical system, with the Queen as the ruler and its tendency is (cont.)

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

the same we can see as supreme goal of any woman: having the best palace, husband and children= perfect closed system. While the male tendency (Adam) is to be a open system, our celestial ancestor was ruled by the female counterpart, the “paradise” was built by Eve. The serpent swalling its own tail is the exactly picture of a closed system’s circuit. But, if this system dreamed to be eternal, there was the entropic force and so, the Fall, and then, we are here just now. No gods, no magics

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1tabligh 6 days ago

Mechanics tells us that a motionless body is always motionless *unless* it becomes subject to a force *external* to itself. This law represents an inviolable principle in our material world, and we *cannot*, therefore, believe in a theory of probability *or* accident.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

You are doing everything wrong. If Mechanics theorists says the word “body” they make a mistake because there is great difference between inertial mass, as matter, and body as a system. Any system has internal force and can do motions, at least, internal motions. And then, they are passive of accidents.

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Alan Clarke 50 minutes ago

@Martin Koch “No I don’t [start with a rock]. Strawman.”

What do you start with? Hydrogen gas?

“Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.” – Edward R. Harrison, British astronomer & cosmologist, Smithsonian Magazine, Dec. 1995

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Harrison is a cosmologist, astronomer. Our current field of astronomy/cosmology is at the same stage that were the Greek philosophers who believed on spontaneous generation. After the Big Bang there was light, waves of light. The electric-magnetic spectrum of light shows seven different frequencies, from gamma-ray to radio. The intensity/period of vibrations varies in the same way that varies the energy of a human body. Every frequency has a human shape, beginning with gamma-ray=baby.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

The function of hydrogen is being “bridges” like the United Nations Organization is the bridge among countries. We can extract energy from hydrogen like we could extracting the money of UNO, if dissolving it. Cosmological Evolution have worked step by step obeying a universal natural formula, like the evolution at embryogenesis is worked by a formula, the DNA. The best atom that mimics the universal formula is Carbon 6, it has all six universal functions of that universal formula.

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GoodScienceForYou 2 minutes ago

After reading over 30,000+ articles on DNA and genetics, there has never been found even one verifiable positive mutation in humans. There are approximately 40,000 (min) deleterious mutations that make us the weak sickly and stupid people we are today. I am angry at the ancestors who fucked up (literally) our fantastic DNA. True evil promotes genetic diseases from viral infections of the fetus. That is how we got this way.

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ouis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

The fantastic DNA of Adam/Eve. A whole life eternally, forever, determined to live as stupid, totally absent mind, playing as children in a garden. No electricity, no Internet, no Mr. Bean. Accordingly to theoretical models about the natural system ancestor of the first cell system, the ancestor of biological DNA was really fantastic, the most perfect machine made with matter. If there wasn’t entropy, that ancestor should be an eternal perpetual motor. But the principles of mind were imprisoned

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“True evil promotes genetic diseases from viral infections of the fetus.”

Viruses are organic slices of the whole energetic flow of information flowing inside the astronomical ancestor of DNA. They are the slice corresponding to the universal function number 5. At the sky, this function is performed by comets, at cell level, it is performed by RNAm. At nuclear atomic level, it is the particle “pion” that flows between neutron and proton. The evil is ignoring its roots not fighting the causes.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“I am angry at the ancestors who fucked up (literally) our fantastic DNA.”

Yes, in fact they did it. The DNA was fantastic… for stupid minds, not for the mind that needs expansion. At 4 billions years ago, the whole ancestor of biological DNA could be nannotecnologyzed, reduced, to fit entire inside a microscope nucleotide. Few informations, but the most perfect machine ever. Meanwhile, the non-loving ancestors of chromosomes X and Y ( which should be Adam/Eve) were living their “paradise”.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“never found even one verifiable positive mutation in humans”.

That’s the right way by which evolution works. Nature didn’t make mammals from the most evolved reptile -dinosaurs – but she went back in time, contracting space, for to find the tiny smaller cynodont, and from here evolution lifted up again. Evolution is curve, not linear. Same way Nature did not selected the gorilla for transcendence to human specie. Gorilla was the exactly biological copy of Newtonian machine = wrong way

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PureLoveEnergy 6 minutes ago

in all reality though regardless if you BELIEVE if god is the creator or not? heres a fact that we DO KNOW…..YOU ARE A CREATOR, you have the ability to create any kind of life you want, your choices and thoughts create your life…we all have the ability to create any kind of planet to live on…we have chose to destroy this earth, to destroy each other and destroy ourselves..i want to create a world that things are abundant and beneficial to everyone instead, i want to evolve in this way

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

You are away off the beam, so, don’t be furious when people here call you “hippie” or “new age”. No, I don’t know that I am a creator and never have saw someone making a “creation”. We did not created any life, nobody had created planets and nobody chose to destroy this planet. If you want to be beneficial to everyone, you need be wise, and the unique method for getting wisdom is observing Nature and learning her mechanisms and processes: scientific method

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1tabligh 14 hours ago

The existence of the first cause is identical with its essence; its being the first cause is, indeed, also identical with its essence. Both these properties imply freedom from need, whereas things whose existence is borrowed stand in need of a cause, because they are characterized by transformation and change, by emergence from non-existence and entry into existence.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

That’s make sense, you have a real fact as parameter for it, here and now. The parameter is the phenomena of creation of living beings. The first cause are the parents and they are identical with their essence (DNA). Maybe this “first cause is really freedom from need, especially the needs about generating offspring, animals get pregnant without knowing that will be parents. The son that borrows this existence is in need of reaching the level of existence of their parents. Ok. All “natural”…

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1tabligh 58 minutes ago

Stop with the automated responses already. It’s peculiar.!

Poor fella!

Dodging ALL the questions and quibbling in vain!

The argument of an IGNORANT!

In other words, that which moves is the subject of motion, while the mover is the cause of motion. Can the same thing in the same respect be simultaneously a subject of motion and a cause of it?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Yes and it happens facing yours eyes just now: your computer. First there was an idea and it produced the abacus. The future technology involving software (the idea inside the computer) and the hardware (the material machine) already was encrypted into the abacus. Then, the abacus elevated the human pier of calculations, which worked as feed-back over the idea elevating the software’s complexity. The Universe is same thing and we see the software as “DNA’s instructions”, human mind, etc.

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1tabligh 2 hours ago

Matter or God?

Take your choice!

Matter and Motion

Matter is in continuous motion and constant development. This is a fact on which we all agree. Further, matter requires a cause that moves it. This is another fact admitted with no disputation. The most basic issue regarding the philosophy of motion is this. Can the matter in motion be the cause or agent of its motion?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

You have yours selected “theory” about what could be the cause of matter motion. You need show for us yours calculations from the state of matter here and now till its last limits possible to be reached by yours logics, which must be linear because the chain of causes/effects seen here is linear. If you don’t do that, don’t wait that others will change their selected theory. My calculations arrived to the limits finding the electric-magnetic spectrum of lightwaves as cause of matter’s motions.

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1tabligh 5 hours ago

Even if the followers of a religious school of thought had no proofs for their claim, to conclude firmly and forcibly that non- being reigns beyond the sensory realm would be a non-scientific choice, based on imagination and speculation.

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1tabligh 5 hours ago

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“a religious school of thought had no proofs for their claim”

All religions were born from a unique source: the ancient fresh memory was producing flashes of past times registered into the DNA. Past times when the ancestor of the biological DNA – the universal Matrix – was composing and living the life as atomic or astronomical systems. If you see the formula of Matrix you will see all the symbols and pictures of all religions resumed into that simple formula. But.. the flashes were about Nature

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odinata 59 minutes ago

Anybody who thinks tabligh is going to respond rationally to any question you ask him or any comment you make is in for disappointment.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

I don’t think so. His last post when he says “The implementation of God’s will is intertwined with the relations between cause and effect, with the complex network of reasons and causes…” is a well elaborated logic from  religious viewpoint. The debate now is between you, showing all forces and elements of a given state of the world prior a new event – like the origins of life – for proving that there was no supernatural will acting over that event. And he needs point what forces God used…

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1tabligh 3 minutes ago

You have started to jump to conclusions!

The implementation of God’s will is intertwined with the relations between cause and effect, with the complex network of reasons and causes. In order for a thing to become the object of the divine will, it must not be impossible and must, in its essence, possess receptive capacity; divine will is accomplished by means of the receptivity of things. It is true that the divine effulgence is infinite and constantly overflowing, but the ground destined to receive it may be defective and unable to absorb the infinite share that superabundant source offers it.

The ocean is an immensely abundant source of water, but a tanker has only a limited capacity to take on its water; in fact, only a minute amount of that water can be loaded onto a tanker. Clearly enough, what is finite and limited in this case is the capacity of the tanker, not the water in the ocean.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“The implementation of God’s will is intertwined with the relations between cause and effect, with the complex network of reasons and causes.”

That’s the vision of Deepak Chopra and his “infinite consciousness”? It is like the suggestions of Matrix/DNA models: being the Universe a kind of cosmic egg where is occurring a natural process of reproduction of the system that was existing before the Big Bang, and if we have consciousness here, it is due that ex-machine system has consciousness. But..

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

But.. any process of reproduction has no active presence of the thing/being reproduced inside the womb/egg. Don’t yours God know all future? He must know. Then, when creating a thing/being, known by anticipation that it will make wrongdoings and will need corrections, why he does it? Could a mother/father permitting a genetic free will of their fetus that should cause the fetus Fall? If they can correct at least the environment that would driven to the Fall? I never will permit it for my kids

1tabligh 10 hours ago

How can great and complex beings emerge from infinite joinings of nonbeing?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

If we are struggling when trying to calculate what was the system before the Big Bang are you jumping to the system that was before it?! It is metaphysics.The long chain of causes and effects is indicating something about the “ancestor” of this Universe: it must be “natural”, it must be more complex than everything here, it creates or generates universes by genetic reproduction or computation, it must have physical body and consciousness, it must be an ignorant about details occurring here.

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1tabligh 2 hours ago

The existence of each part of the chain manifests inadequacy, impotence, and origination in time; whence did its existence arise?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“the chain manifests inadequacy, impotence, and origination”

That’s totally wrong! If there is a chain flowing, by default there is no origination of anything. There is no “origins”, no origins of life, no origins of universes. Every new event, every new phenomena, must be merely new arrangement of a given chain. That’s could be called “transformation” as yours body transforms from baby shape to kid. If there are increased information must come from hierarchy system’s chain, parallels

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  • drak6468 3 hours ago

    Hey if you think you really wanna see another side of the argument, and are truly seeking the truth check out this vid:

    /watch?v=AwZF7JTRfnY

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    • Louis Charles Morelli

      Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

      He shows the movie “Unlocking the mystery…” where everything seems magics. But, if you have the model of the state of the world at the time when occurred abiogenesis, you will perceive that those systems (atoms, stellar, galaxies) have a building block that has evolved since the Big Bang, a simple shape of vortex that contains the principles of all natural forces. It worked as work the DNA for biological systems. So, you can understand every step in that film, where the mechanisms came from

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        Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

        For instance, the nucleus containing DNA is the universe containing billions of building blocks which has the same shape and function of each nucleotide. Then there is the first “machine” that identificates a section of DNA for producing a protein. We can see the same scene at cosmological level happening in that building block: every time a star or planet or pulsar extinguishes, the system identificates the blank space, built other and replace it and this is made by life cycle process.

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          Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

          How aminoacids leaves the ribosome one after other, walking to outside on line, the exactly sequence required by a specific protein? Simple. The filament of DNA is the circuit of a system that was circular, closed, in the sky and here biologically became opened by cutting two extremes. The entire circuit is mimicked here by the total sum of proteins. Each protein is a large slice of the circuit. Aminoacids are smalls slice of that large slice. Aminoacids walks like a flowing circuit

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      Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

      2) He makes comparisons between “slices of wood exploded building a house” and “the origin of Universe by Big Bang Theory”. Any calculation about before the origins will be merely metaphysics. The unique rational way for calculation what was before is looking for similar situation (origins of things made by the universe here and now). The similar scene here is the explosion of spermatozoon inside ova giving origin to a new body. But, this body is less complex than the thing that was the cause

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      Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

      1) He makes comparisons between a book and DNA (genotype). It is absurd! In the book, informations are merely symbols, letters, while in the DNA as in any matter informations are real things and living, functional things: vortexes, the makers of fundamental particles. Vortexes emerges, grow, divide, replicates, eat, expels, they die. Having glue and catalysts they becomes packages of bits-information, complex information, as any human being is a specific and unique package of information.

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Alter form towards new forms?! Matter (as mass) and matter ( as energy) alters forms from one to other, anything else, since they search only eternal equilibrium as a closed circuit. Thermodynamics is about the behavior of energy then, yes, has everything to do with Metalheadk93 question.

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odinata 1 hour ago

“The very earliest universe was so hot, or energetic, that initially no particles existed or could exist”

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Louis Charles Morelli 5 minutes ago

You need to show at least in lab that such state is possible. My personal observations of this world suggests that there is limits for everything, and when arriving to the limits, instead reaching it, things are transformed. Yours hot universe is beyond the limits, isn’t it? Are you appealing to magical thinking also? .

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odinata 2 minutes ago

That’s what CERN was built for.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

CERN will have the same problem of Miller/Urey experiments, never getting the next working step. If CERN proves the Big Bang Theory it will build a micro-galaxy inside the tubes, but, before this galaxy produces life, the black hole will eat the galaxy. I think there is something else – a working force – hidden from our knowledge, that is missing.So, I make comparisons between the Universe and a living body. Here I see that this force is called DNA. Then, for the Universe must be a Matrix/DNA

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odinata 6 minutes ago

Sounds like you reject science before it even happens.

Good for you, fruitcake.

how ‘bout you stop clogging this thread with your jibber jabber now, m’kay?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

You are mixing Science as collection of data with theories elaborated trying to connect the data, as it is Big Bang Theory as one interpretation of a theoretical big picture. This is not debating Science but interpretations, theories.

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odinata 21 minutes ago

You are mixing jibber with jabber.

Please shut it.

I’m sick of your garbage–it has nothing to do with science.

It is diarrhea from the bowels of your imagination.

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ErgoCogita 11 minutes ago

” If CERN proves the Big Bang Theory it will build a micro-galaxy inside the tubes, but, before this galaxy produces life, the black hole will eat the galaxy.”

It’s nicknamed the “Big Bang Machine” because the particle debris from collisions mimics the conditions all matter in the Universe went through before matter started to form, not because we predict it will create Universes. And neither do we predict it creates black holes….

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

No way, Ergo. The particles debris from collisions is a necessary scientific experiment, we are all waiting their results, but till now they never mimicked the state before matter started for, because if it happens, a new universe should emerge there. It really took few seconds for emergency of this universe, accordingly to the theory, so, it is not necessary waiting too much time. And if emerges a new universe, for sure, it will have black holes, accordingly to Hawkins

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TheTapeClub 17 minutes ago

Who the hell told you CERN was building a device to create galaxies?

It’s worth pointing out that, even though the concept is misinformed, the word you are looking for is “universe” as opposed to “galaxy.”

There are already hundreds of thousands of readily observable galaxies, but one observable universe.

Second of all, the term “matrix” is a numeric set, mostly used in computer science and pure mathematics. This correction doesn’t really affect your idea, but try and find a different word.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Please, what’s universe if not a super-agglomerate of agglomerates of galaxies?! If you gets the initial condition of the universe, what should do the things you have in the tube if not galaxies?! Same way for Urey experiments: if they got the real reduced atmospheric initial conditions, they only need the right catalyst for getting those aminoacids forming polymers, proteins, RNA, replication, etc. Accordingly to Big Bang Theory, it does not need catalysts for emergency of hydrogen atoms…

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Thanks, any suggestion for correcting, testing or improving this theory are welcome. And you touched a good point here. Which shows the modern deviation of Science from its initial target. If you look to definitions of this world you have: The Free Dictionary: 1. A situation or surrounding substance within which something else originates, develops, or is contained. But if you go to Wikipedia you see …no definition. This word was coined by Latin meaning “the mother”and this is my meaning

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odinata 21 minutes ago

You are mixing jibber with jabber.

Please shut it.

I’m sick of your garbage–it has nothing to do with science.

It is diarrhea from the bowels of your imagination.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

You said: “The very earliest universe was so hot, or energetic, that initially no particles existed or could exist”

Please stops with this nonsense! If this is yours elected theory, say it: “Accordingly to the best theory, the very earliest universe was…” Don’t be a closed mind, a Science-stopper. Don’t “belief” on big pictures about times and spaces nobody reached yet. I don’t “believe” in Matrix/DNA Theory, that’s the reason I am testing it against real facts and debating theories.

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Louis Charles Morelli 39 minutes ago

” You don’t speak English and you don’t know what you are tlaking about.”

That’s the most stupid conclusion I have seen here: since you don’t speak English you don’t know anything, or you know less than me…What arrogance!

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odinata 36 minutes ago

You may know something–but no one here can tell because you can’t form a coherent sentence.

ITs pure gibberish.

Nonsense.

Shut your fucking hole already.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

The problem is not about coherent sentence. It is about the non coherent logics that theorists used for connecting the real collection of data into big pictures, which was taught to you as “world view”. Now you will have problems for fixing this error, connecting everything again by another method. That’s the same problem of creationists educated by the Bible.

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odinata 5 minutes ago

“The very earliest universe was so hot, or energetic, that initially no particles existed or could exist”

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odinata 5 minutes ago

radually the immense energies cooled – still to a temperature inconceivably hot compared to any we see around us now, but sufficiently to allow forces to gradually undergo symmetry breaking, a kind of repeated condensation from one status quo to another, leading finally to the separation of the strong force from the electroweak force and the first particles.

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whiteowl1415 18 minutes ago

“No other explanation.”

Unless you count particles being enternal, which is the only feasable way to look at it in light of the Laws of Conservation.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

I can’t understand the Law of Conservation producing Evolution, could you explain it? This law should rule all particles, or any material body composed by particles already existing at eternal inertia, and even of there was any disturbance it should be immediately corrected, since that the supreme tendency of matter is getting the thermodynamic equilibrium. Why are there particles, and bodies composed by them, missing energy, obligated to move on, striving for survival?

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ErgoCogita 26 minutes ago

“I can’t understand the Law of Conservation producing Evolution,”

There is no “Law of Conservation”. there IS, however, the Law of Conservation of Energy but it doens’t pose the slightest problem for biological evolution. Energy is not created nor destroyed in the process…

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

I think that evolution should be the result of energy motions. The other possible state of energy – mass – accordingly to e=mc2, should have no inner motions. And energy tendency to become mass, and vice-versa, indicates a eternal state of eternal return, not evolution. Something is missing here. That’s what Matrix/DNA is about

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metalheadk93 26 minutes ago

Where did the particles come from in the big bang. Cause and effect. No other explanation.

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odinata 21 minutes ago

You are mixing jibber with jabber.

Please shut it.

I’m sick of your garbage–it has nothing to do with science.

It is diarrhea from the bowels of your imagination.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Why do you search answers in yours imagination instead looking for it in real nature?! That’s the behavior of babies and kids. Try to looking in Nature something similar to the big picture that the actual known data is suggesting. They are suggesting an initial central point, smaller than the space occupied by matter today, at extreme singularity, that have expanding and becoming complex. Is there something similar here? Yes, exactly the same scene: the moment of fecundation, yours origins

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metalheadk93 45 minutes ago

I’m asking a simple question and drawing the only possibility and truth that stems from the answer. You understand the cause and effect nature and the presence of universal, immaterial, and unchanging laws.

You wish for logic to be broken in order to suit your own militant crusade. Cause and effect. You say, boom and it’s there.

It’s a fallacy you condone. what data? Data from your imagination or data that simply fits like apples to oranges

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

No, you are not asking a question, you have stopped making the rational unanswered question when absorbing a non-rational theory. I suggested that there is here and now a similar scene to the big picture suggested by Big Bang Theory. But the scene here goes against all interpretations made till now (except Matrix/DNA theory) about the causes of Big Bang. Here you see ex-machine “NATURAL” parents. Not nothing and not magics. Seems everybody went far away off the beam. Consciousness is a baby yet

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metalheadk93 1 hour ago

To the contrary there’s no evidence God didn’t give anything, and there’s no other explanation to origin other than God.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Yes, there is. But, explanations elaborated by human beings never will be the final Truth, if there is one. Because no intelligence can know the Truth about a system (like the Universe) standing inside it. And even if something comes from outside the Universe talking to humans, our brains never would be able to understand the explanation. It is impossible for us rationally understanding the hypothesis that never had a beginning, as it is impossible to do with a world that had a beginning

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Mikezzz749 1 hour ago

@TheTapeClub well, I think your knowledge of God is rather flawed. God gave us free will, but Adam and Eve were perfect before the fall. Same with plants and animals. It said that the were no animals that killed–all vegetarians. And there weren’t thorns, etc on plants. These came symbolically after the fall. So did human violence, selfishness, abuse, etc. His design was not flawed, and neither is God’s salvation. But the choice to walk away is flawed.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Yours logic does not work, if they were perfect they never should make that mistake, never doing any error. Parents never would do to their sons what yours “god” did. This is logic of children or from somebody that is merely worried to produce a fiction without taking care of logical meaning, like the author of Gulliver or Harry Potter.

But, new cosmological models suggests that the state of the world about 4 billions years ago was exactly as described by metaphors in Genesis without magics

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DPrichProductions 7 hours ago

evolution is a fairy tale. Ever heard of the princess and the frog, the frog turns into a human…fairytale. But add 4.5billion years and it’s science. There is no evidence for evolution to be true, and I would put money on that.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

A blastula turning into a human is a fairy tale also? The blastula saw by a microorganism inside is the same scene of this Universe populated by galaxies. And here is the deep secret: it is this Universe turning into a human, not the frog. The frog is a provisional not complete shape between the astronomical state of the world and a human being. You can see how an astronomical system, composed by the seven known shapes of bodies, performs a working almost biological system on matrix/DNA models

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pineapplepenumbra 14 hours ago

Obviously I know that the Sun is very big and far away and that the Moon is much smaller and much nearer, but if they didn’t appear the same size, we wouldn’t get the wonder of total eclipses and the Moon is verl alege compared to other moons in the solar system and performs useful functions such as keeping the Earth tilted at about 23 degrees and creating tides; don’t you think that it’s just too useful to be mere coincidence?

We’ve discovered hundreds of exoplanets and none of them seem to

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

And maybe there are many useful functions of Moon for life. If the Matrix/DNA models are right, shouldn’t have life at earth. The atoms at the primordial soup should be moved and mixed. The state of the planet was almost inertial, then, those atoms never could get the necessary speed of meetings for getting the first organic combinations. This kind of mixing were got by thermal ocean vents, but, there was not enough informations. The missing informations were in the Sun. Moon with tides did it

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DPrichProductions 4 hours ago

Here is the thing. I believe In the beginning, God. You believe in the beginning Dirt. Science has proven that energy can not be created or destroyed. Now tell me where energy came from?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Before the beginning of this Universe there was a natural system, like before the beginning of yours own body there was a natural system. And since that the meaning of yours beginning is the reproduction of that system, so, the meaning of the of the system that began with the Big Bang is to reproduce the system ex-machine. But.. what was before the ex-machine system? That’s not a human rational question. Nobody can know the Truth of a system living inside it. It is not rational having answers.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“Now tell me where energy came from?” Energy and mass are two states derived from primordial information. Active information+energy, inertial information+mass. Where the primordial information came from? Yours body is active energy moving mass. Both came for information coded in DNA. So, the primordial information came from the ex-machine system that is being reproduced inside this Universe. They were like quantum-genes, in shape of bubbles formed by vortexes popping up here.

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DPrichProductions 4 hours ago

we are obviously talking about a different God. My God is. He was there before our interoperation of time. He created time, so therefore has to be outside of it. Steve Jobs isn’t in my MAC telling it how it works. He made it work while still being outside of it.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Time has no substance, no entity, it is a human creation for ordering events into chronological order. Jobs is inside the Mac as projection of his mind into something called software. Software is an abstraction projected by a mind connecting functions of a system. We discovered that this Universe, since the Big Bang is composed by software and hardware which are evolving together by interdependent feed-back.So, the natural ex-machine system must be composed by the same. If you call it God…

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DPrichProductions 3 hours ago

you see, evolution is a religion, much like Christianity. Although Christianity is a belief in life, evolution is a belief in death, that is what Hitler believed about Jews and actually killed million of them. I have learned science, and it didn’t make any sense to me. I found out that God fills in the many holes of the evolutionary theory. I cannot answer all of your questions, but I do know this for sure. There is a God and He loves you, and died for you. I pray that you will see him some day

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“There is a God and He loves you”.

This is a bad thing you are doing to human beings. That’s the reason behind the cause that all citizens of a third world Christian country are totally unuseful for to try to fix the wrong doings on that corrupts ans slavery social system. They don’t have any deep information about economy, history, politics, their book is only one about foreign mythology. If there are something in this world that loves you it is only other human being, teach it to persons.

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DPrichProductions 3 hours ago

Genesis 1 says theta there were 3 layers of firmament, or sky. the oxygen part, ice part and space part. The media will not show proof against evolution.

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DPrichProductions 3 hours ago

Genesis 1 says theta there were 3 layers of firmament, or sky. the oxygen part, ice part and space part. The media will not show proof against evolution.

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pontecanis 1 hour ago

“Energy and mass are two states derived from primordial information.” Energy and mass are not derived from “information”. Ths is complete nonsense.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

And yours theory about energy origins is…? The problem here. are two: 1) DPrich asked to you, if in the beginning it was dirt, where energy came from. If you don’t have a good theory for answering this question, you are in trouble; 2) You understand “information” based in the abstract scholar concept as defined in Wikipedia: is a sequence of symbols that can be interpreted as a message. But information is a Greek word meaning: the force that “in”+”form”, gives form, shape and motion to…

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whiteowl1415 48 minutes ago

There is no such thign as a circle.

Archimedes lied.

He was actualy workign on baking repies and “Pi” is his attempt to cover that he couldn’t remember the silent E in “Pie”

When someone ask him what the heck a Pi was, he started rambling numbers and claiming it went on forever without repeating so that noone would investigate, because EVERYONE hates math

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

There is no such thing as a circle. What are you talking about? Go to Wikipedia see “circle” and come back saying that there is no circle.

Archimedes lied? What alternative ratio do you have for the ratio between a circumference and its diameter?! What’s Pie? For yours sake, there is a new astonishing discover about Pi and Phi. Pi is irrational constant due Nature never makes a circle directly, it emerges from natural spirals, which has no ends. And it is the product or of bi-lateral symmetry

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pineapplepenumbra 2 hours ago

Well, you said “No”, but you haven’t explained why, do you just think it’s a massive coincidence?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Davermiava maybe has not a good theory that fits all requirements but Matrix/DNA Theory has it. You need see an analogy, a real fact here and now: how Nature creates a new living body. A human couple makes the right womb and inserts the right informations. Everything works naturally, it is based on a previous design (human species) but the couple does not applies any kind of intelligence, the baby, with good and bad things, is made off. You need to know the state of the world, as the designer

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Edmond Goo 1 hour ago

I have never seen a “Fit” mutation.

If it happens so often, how come it’s never been seen?

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Louis Charles Morelli 2 seconds ago

Do you want to see “fit” mutations? Ok, look now to yours hands. Animals like horses and birds has no hands like humans, with five fingers, each one appropriated for specific functions. Which force drove the transformation of hands? Yours fingers explains it. From the smaller finger to the thumb, it reveals the process of any life’s cycle. The smaller is the baby, the next is the kid, the next is the teenager, the other is the adult, the thumb is the senior. And life’s cycles comes from Light!

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pineapplepenumbra 1 minute ago

Religion has killed, is killing and will continue to kill for a long time to come.

It doesn’t have to literally have crusades inorder to cause misery and death, there is the immoral, unscientific and illogical opposition to condom use, killing 15 million Africans (so far, although not all can be attributed to religion) by Aids, along with overpopulation causing scarcity of resources, not to mention how many have died from diseases that would have been preventable had the religious Right not

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

What do you say about billions of humans just now, at atheists and religious countries, slavers of mechanical work, till 12 hours a day? Shouldn’t technology and automation doing this work? What do you have to say about the natural requirement for all human beings: due you was born, you will consume, so, you will need working with yours own hands producing yours needs. If you don’t produces everything you consume, it means that you will be a predator, a vampire of others energy.” What’s wrong?

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whiteowl1415 2 minutes ago

“Shouldn’t technology and automation doing this work?”

Not at all.

Automation is already too big a problem.

I think it odd how noone seems to connect that we start developing things like self checkout stations and even though the prices on everythign remain the same, baggers and clerks lose thier jobs.

Too much automation is the root cause of the unemployment rate problems, in the U.S. at least

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Then you think that human beings must be submitted eternally, passively, to that natural requirement: “you, as human being, must be a slave of mechanical work, which is the way for producing what you consume”?! Each human being consumes about 40 tons of plants…have you produced it with yours hand? Have you made one entire house, yours house? No.

About 10 billion years ago, seven kinds of astronomical bodies were performing a system, the most perfect machine, all hard work made by automation.

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1tabligh 2 hours ago

You still don’t get it, do you?

I have already in my inbox more then 15965 replies from wannabes monkeys, teachers, profs, scientists etc!

What makes you think, you are a special duped wannabe monkey?

No wasting time!

Talk science and answer the questions otherwise clock off!

The chain of causality cannot recede into infinity!

Stupid brainless cuckoo atheist with asinine mind!

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“The chain of causality cannot recede into infinity!”

Nobody, being rational, can affirm anything about the chain of causality… yet. Because every time happening an event producing a new phenomena is the total state of the Universe at a given moment that projects itself, with all its forces and elements, towards a specific point in space/time, which point can have forces and elements from the state of the world outside the Universe. Infinity?! Evidences for it please…

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Alan Clarke 3 days ago

Some evolutionists argue that placentals tend to outcompete marsupials when they share the same habitats (which may be true). It may be that competition from placentals drove marsupials to migrate away from the Ark ahead of placentals. Perhaps marsupials then gained an early foothold in Australia and South America and, in these fairly isolated areas, and without competition from placentals, they thrived in those places.” – creation. com

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

So we have three hypothesis: the evolutionist to which there was no ark and kangaroos never leaved Australia, the creationism to which marsupials traveled the long distance to Australia and South America, and Matrix/DNA to which kangaroos always were there because they are product of an evolutionary lineage geographically determined due the solar and terrestrial radiation. Creationism see marsupials travelling, instead, Matrix/DNA see the travels of photons and Darwinism don’t see any travel.

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Alan Clarke 9 minutes ago

@parsivalshorse “they could not possibly have known that the flood was global”

Your assumption is based on philosophical naturalism.

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g24417 4 minutes ago

“philosophical naturalism” – do you mean science? There is no better way to know things than through science. The less scientific something is, the less reliable it is. In fact that is the purpose of science, to weed out mistakes and lies.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Yes, but lately Science is not practicing full philosophical naturalism. Be careful about the current theories elaborated on the basics of the last data obtained and the excess of Math exercise, because these data are driven us to a wrong worldview. Don’t belief in the interpretations of things located inside galactic nucleus as being ghosts black holes, or about the central point resuming into extreme singularity as being a Big Bang. Science was taken by computer’s philosophical artificialism

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Edmond Goo 15 hours ago

You take Darwin over Pasteur when it was Pasteur who invented vaccines and not Darwin. Pasteur was doing was science. Darwin was doing philosophy.

Darwin invented nothing.

Charles Darwin’s own Grandfather wrote a book about evolution and he died 3 years before Charles was born. Charles Darwin was not an originator or a scientist. He was a good writer. He should have written fiction. My bad, he did.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Charles Darwin is the kind of hero Humanity needs. Who else should sacrifice his.her better years ( the 20’s), abandoning the good life of London, for facing the hell of desert islands and salvage jungles, only in the name of Humanity’s freedom from existential ignorance? What have you did for getting the basic knowledge that human kind already got? Sitting comfortable under conditioned air and reading a book of mythology? And what did you similar to Darwin’s sacrifice for advancing knowledge?

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Tom Adams 2 hours ago

still waiting for actual proof of primordial snot mythology…

it’s been 150 years…

that’s REAL SOON NOW, eh, goebbels?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Yes, we are almost there. NASA is collecting real data and everyday is pictured a new shape of astronomical body. We are connecting these shapes into a circuit, supposing that those bodies were not formed by spontaneous generation as theorized by the current scholar cosmological model. We suppose that they are different shapes of an unique initial body under the force of life’s cycles, the same that makes yours body be a blastula and later, a baby, an adult, etc. This circuit was in that soup

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TheFallibleFiend 2 hours ago

Evolution CAN’T possibly explain FACT X! Of course, I haven’t done the least bit of actual research to CONFIRM fact x, but I innately know more than all of the actual scientists doing the actual science, because I’ve done like research and stuff, and I’m just way smarter than they are.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

All scientists are wrong… It is possible, it happened many times before. Plank and the negative square root, Dirac and antimatter, Einstein and relativity, Copernic and heliocentrism, etc, etc. Professional scientists are all of them educated by the same scholar curriculum which teach the amount of real proved data and express a worldview based on the theories elaborated by someone that tried to connect those data for getting a big picture. The secret is in the connection of those data.

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PureLoveEnergy 20 minutes ago

im not religious and im not exactly atheist either….science is not limited to 1 dimension we live in a multidimensional reality so physical science is only going to explain this 1 physical dimesnsion….everything is energy vibrating on diffirent frequencies the lower you get into the frequencies everything becomes more compressed and compacted therefore making physical matter…the higher you get into the frequencies everything is pure light and energy…so we no very little about science

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

You are getting good intuitions.The most surprising thing is that we are discovering the whole physical Universe composed by brute matter has an invisible coverage of Biology and life! We are begining to perceive that this Universe seems a human body, and Physics is the method for studying and describing only the skeleton; above the skeleton there is the soft fresh where the more complex and suave laws of Biology is the right method. And for a Theory of Everything still have the conscious layer

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MrGralgrathor 18 minutes ago

@Snookums

“science is not limited to 1 dimension”

You don’t dig linear thinking, ey?

“so we no very little about science”

… O, gods, I really, really, really, really HATE you GODDAMN new age hippies. Sorry, I can’t help it. I really do. With all my heart.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

95% of world population still slave of mechanical work and being tortured till by the most microscopic virulent creatures! Yours “linear thinking”is fired! Sorry about that. Your time is finished, you had your opportunity. Evolution is not linear, it makes curves in space/time. Nature did not made mammals from dinosaurs, she went back in time, contracting the space, lifting up the small cyanodont. Yes, now she is doing the same. She is not piking up Wall Street but going back to Woodstock.

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geezusispan 42 minutes ago

It’s all OK. When the machines take over, like they always do, they will be able to span space, to find another planet that will support our forms of life. Then they will introduce life and it will flourish once again! I’m sure this science fiction story has already been used…. darn it.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Maybe you will be surprised. Humans makes machines because this ability is registered at the DNA before…life origins. Our non-biological ancestors, the stars, already built the most perfect possible machine, with pretensions to be eternal. Welcome to the knowledge of a new cosmological model. But beyond the stars there is the Universe, which corrects deviation by the Clausius Law – entropy. Then, there was the Fall and we are here. This biosphere is still built by the machine don’t be a piece.

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Jules Le Tanneur 16 minutes ago

What’s your evidence?

(not the sociological changes, but whatever you claim to be true and undetected by science)

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Evidences? You should be with us instead being an obstacle, we need help just now. Everyday lots of scientific papers being published (800 papers by year?) and we are trying to know each one for testing these new models. We can’t do that alone. But… only as first indication, I will use the most easy evidence at hands just now: yours own hands. Put the left hand over the Matrix/DNA formula as software, the palm over Function 1, each finger over each other function. Learn what’s your hand!

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Jules Le Tanneur 1 hour ago

“Physical” science can only explain what has a detectable impact on the world, and will try to explain all of it.

The “rest”, by definition, has no detectable impact on the world, so why do you care about it and how do you know anything about it?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Why?! Any real object – be it a simple stone – belongs to a system. Systems have different shapes accordingly their evolutionary level of complexity. They are hierarchy aligned, in the way that natural, but invisible and untouchable systems exerts influence upon that stone. Physical Science is touching these invisible systems, hidden at micro and macro level only through mechanical sensors linked to electric-mechanical brains. Biological sensors of ours brain would detect something else

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PureLoveEnergy 51 minutes ago

because energy is what EVERYTHING is, you are not going to understand this physical dimension without understanding cosmic laws and energy and how they work, science will tell you that energy has a huge impact on this world i mean it is infact what everything is, thoughts and feelings are energy nd have an impact on the physical too because everything is all interconnected with eachother…think beyond just this 1 dimesion…we know brainwaves exist but on what dimesion do they exist ask this ?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Hold on, PLE ! Don’t do the same mistake did by creationists and atheists. Don’t jump from the real world here and now to absolutes, our little brain can not know the truth about this world. Search ways, methods, for touching Nature step by step, each time more deeper, don’t escape through metaphysics.

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PureLoveEnergy 25 minutes ago

if energy vibrates at a higher frequency then physical matter then it will be invisible to this physical dimension…dont look at it like everything is matter look at it as everything is energy…we need to try to understand this energy and how it works like i said matter is just simply the condensed state of energy..what is the source of this energy?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Sorry entering with my two cents here. What’s energy? The Matrix/DNA models are suggesting that energy is not the first essence. The very first essence in this Universe is “information”, splitted in shape of vortexes. . Energy is active information, mass or “matter” is information at rest, inertial state. A good analogy is the beginning of yours own body. The principal force and the ruler of everything, from the moment of fecundation to all life, is information encoded at DNA.

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Jules Le Tanneur 10 minutes ago

Denial of evolution is unique to the United States *within the developed world*.

It’s also very common in other deeply religious countries (christianity, islam, and others) in the less developed countries.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Yes, but the developed (?) countries are not doing good also. Everyone wants a private palace, his/her Garden Paradise at Earth. Consumerism to the high level. The youngs’ times at game playing a virtual world. The worldview based in theories elaborated through computer simulations, the Universal History narrated by the electric-mechanic brain. We are going to the most horrible trap of destiny: The Brave New World, ruled by the Big Queen, as any insect society. Matrix/DNA is mind free of that

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PureLoveEnergy 51 minutes ago

because energy is what EVERYTHING is, you are not going to understand this physical dimension without understanding cosmic laws and energy and how they work, science will tell you that energy has a huge impact on this world i mean it is infact what everything is, thoughts and feelings are energy nd have an impact on the physical too because everything is all interconnected with eachother…think beyond just this 1 dimesion…we know brainwaves exist but on what dimesion do they exist ask this ?

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carrieicecream 23 hours ago

It’s sad to think that everybody need evidence for everything. Religion is about faith, not evidence. That’s why faith is the biggest test in my life, as well as many other Christians and Jews and Muslims, etc.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

If you are young and want a good life at yours advanced ages, listen to the councils of an old man. It is better that you seek more and more evidences in natural world than stopping to search because you choose a faith based in a specific interpretation of those known evidences. I have seem lots of old people crying because they did wrong in their life guided by a kind of faith. God did not saved the Christians from being eaten by lions at Caesar arena. Their was a wrong faith, of course

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

I have a question to evolutionists:

This night I was reading about light, electric magnetic spectrum and so on. I think the deepest foundations of this material world is like an ocean of lightwaves still propagating from the pulsation that began with Big Bang. Instead of luminous light we see the deep darkness because it blind us. Matter is this condensed light becoming particles. So, the world is all white, bodies are unseen. We see it colored. Is it not an evidence of intelligent design? 5:51 PM – Dec – 18

AtomicBl453 11 minutes ago

How life came to be is far more advanced than a fictional character in a book spewing hate/intolerance/guilt and was once noted to believe in witches.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Believing in witches is caused by beliefs that “life came to be”. There is no such thing. There were no origins of life, at least, inside this Universe, and by extension on the thing that created this universe. This word “origins” is a misconception that drives human minds away off the natural beam towards the two kind of magical thinking: creationism and randomness. If you want to see how galaxies and atoms are living working systems, see the models at Matrix/DNA Theory

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JustThink00 19 minutes ago

uh, no?

and if so, how does that disprove evolution?

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

That does not disprove evolution, but it disprove intelligence behind evolution. Light waves from Big Bang are the projection of the invisible side of any material object, the hardware. Light waves are the projection of the software that walks side by side with matter, the hardware. Lightwaves is the projection of the natural system’s intelligent mind that produced genetically this universe, like our psychology is projection of our parents’ minds. Got the theory?

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g24417 29 seconds ago

I can’t say that you have accurate understood the subject you have been reading. And no – there is nothing in nature that shows intelligent design. Its best to disassociate yourself from the ID people – ID is designed to be dishonest. You can’t “follow” ID honestly, it is impossible.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

I know that the ID movement is designed to be dishonest because it was born inside a closed mind worldview. But… this puzzle seems to be real and astonishing. All different things we see are merely bunches of the same atoms and they are different due these atoms have different vibrations accordingly to which different frequency of light they stands on. So, there is no separation of things, there is no colored things, everything is white.We “see” separated things and then, we can live. Why?!

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sidewaysgravity790 1 hour ago

uhm no, some objects reflect and absorb light differently than other materials.For example, a red pen absorbs all the other spectrums of light except the red wavelength which gets reflected into our retina and what we end up seeing.

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That’s the problem: there is no red wavelength. This wavelength that you call “red” is merely a non-colored, a white specific frequency of light. The “red” is in the eye of the observer. And that’s my unsolved puzzle now: if we did not see these non-existent colors, we couldn’t move in this world. Oppsss…I think I found the explanation! At any specific age my body has a specific shape different from all others shapes. Just at now, I see my photos from young times: same body. I am going…

g24417 6 minutes ago

Sorry, its hard to parse your meaning with the words you are using. We can’t “see” atoms, we can only see photons. Our perception of atoms is not effected by their “vibration”. Maybe you are thinking about strings. Neither strings no atoms have a direct bearing on the frequency of light – that is a different phenomenon. There is a “white” – it is simply a composite of all other perceptible colors. So no – the puzzle is not real because you are not accurately describing things.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

I think having a direct bearing of atoms and the bodies they composes with light in relation to our vision: we see these bodies due the existence of light. But the light coming to and reflected by these bodies has no different colors in itself, it is always white. Absence of light means darkness, so the whole world is black and white. If you are in the white, it is the same you are in the dark, you see no separations of things. The colorful world exists only in our back brain where lays images

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geezusispan 3 minutes ago

Buddhists are trying to realize the one, be with the one, experience the one. Escape the cycle of birth ad death. No, they do not have a deity…

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

About 10 billions ago, one ancestor of us, did the same thing that Buddhists are trying to do today. To realize the one, be with the one, escape the cycle of birth and death, all these goals are expressions of a closed system, the extreme expression of selfishness. The building block of galaxies that arose 10 billions years ago, containing the force that today is our mind, did it, becoming a closed system in the sky. If you are interested, see the picture of this galaxy at my website.

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1tabligh 28 minutes ago

Mechanics tells us that a motionless body is always motionless *unless* it becomes subject to a force *external* to itself. This law represents an inviolable principle in our material world, and we *cannot*, therefore, believe in a theory of probability *or* accident.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

And do you have any idea about this force that imprint a force into material bodies driving them to obey the vital cycle which makes the transformations of shapes? Do you believe that it is one force or several different forces? How God manipulates this force called vital principle?

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1tabligh 2 minutes ago

If we continue the chain of cause and effect indefinitely, the existence of each link in the chain will be conditional on that of the preceding link, which, in turn, will be conditional on the existence of the link preceding it. It is as if each link in the chain of causality were to proclaim loudly from the depths of its being: “I shall not don the garment of existence until that other one has set foot on the plain of being.”

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

At least, someone here trying to be trustworthy natural! But, at some point, you seems to fall down from the logical avenue! Please, follow this chain of cause and effect in the reverse way, from the top of complexity here and now, which is consciousness, followed down by human brain system, followed down by human body system and go down…to galaxies to atoms till arriving at the last frontiers of this material universe. Seems you was trying to do it, but, suddenly, you fail down seeing gods?

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1tabligh 25 minutes ago

Each link depends on a condition that has not been fulfilled, and each one is, therefore, *barred* from enjoying the blessing of existence.

Since we see the whole of the universe to be surging with different forms of being, there *must* exist in the world a cause that is *not* an effect, a condition that is not subject to a condition; *otherwise* the surface of the world would *not* be this thickly covered with phenomena.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

My models are suggesting same thing: “each link depends on a condition that has not been fulfilled”. But my models are suggesting a different explanation than yours explanation, which is “God is the condition”. I will appeal to an analogy: computers evolution. Each new generation of hardware brings on a novelty that has no material foundation seen at the last generation of hardware. This novelty has a link which is fulfilled with an invisible ex-machine thing, the mind behind softwares. Then ?

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Then I was calculating how the building blocks of original galaxies – which is exactly as a base-pair of nucleotides, the unit of information of DNA – arrived at Earth for driven terrestrial atoms to organizing just like the astronomical block. The results of this calculation is: software. Living software composed by vortex which popping up as half-matter from light waves. There is no mind here behind the evolution of this natural software: it was programmed for evolution before the Big Bang

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QuantumGh0st 3 minutes ago

If one can assert that non-physical things can cause physical universes to emerge, in order to avoid absurdities like infinity, then one can assert that universes can arise without a cause, in order to avoid absurdities like non-physical causality (Gods). Quantum mechanics allows a universe to appear without a violation of energy conservation, but God, supposedly, creates the universe ex-nihilo (from nothing). We’re then told that God does all this without time.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Well thought! My problem that I can’t accept thermodynamics principles as energy conservation causing the emergence of this Universe is that I can’t see these immense quantity of informations we see here today existing at the initial singularity. Quantum mechanics seems to me that is on the way for solving this problem. By the way, I prefer appeal to the nature I can see here and now: my body started by a big bang inside a ball suggesting to be very simple. The informations were hidden inside

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QuantumGh0st 16 seconds ago

Does information need to exist in a consistent quantity, though? I understand that energy is always conserved, and that information is contingent on physical expression, but couldn’t less information exist in certain configuration of matter, and increase with the change in configuration of matter up to a point where the physical configuration could not express any more information? Before I attempt to clarify, could you give a non-mathematical definition of what you think information is?

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

“could you give a non-mathematical definition of what you think information is?”

I have no personal definition, I am only following the results from Matrix/DNA models. Information is seen in a genetic way mixed with Yukawa mechanisms for nuclear gluon. Information is a force that gives shapes, forms and functions to inertial mass, and this force is lightwaves produced by quantum vortexes which works as ex-machine genes. My quarks and leptons are made with these vortexes

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Very good and thoughtful point! Again, I suggest you trying to see the initial singularity at the event of ours own body. I think there is less information in DNA than the amount of information having in the body produced by him. But, the most units of information of the body is due fuzzy logic, due mixing matricial informations from what derives less important information. There are few increased information caught at the environment, but the environment is just the Matrix, a bigger DNA

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

That’s all about the systemic configuration seen at the Matrix/DNA universal formula, which is, theoretically, the natural force organizing matter into systems. The formula is the most simple but complete configuration a natural system can reaches. With evolution these matricial informations are mixed generating inside informations, which increases the internal complexity. There is the limit for complexity imposed by the initial configuration. Repeating the initial, reproduction happens.

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1tabligh 5 minutes ago

Those who refuse to worship God find themselves prostrating before their inner idol; passion and desire rule every dimension of their beings.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

You are pretty right! Without knowing the deepest secret of Nature, yours intuition touched it. This universe carries on the evolution of a unique natural system, which has the free will to chose between closed (selfishness) or opened (permissiveness) system. Your example – prostrating before inner idol – is a behavior of the parts of a closed system prostrating before the entity of its own system. But, the other common human behavior is like you, prostrating to the same system as if it is God

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ZolotoPartii 10 minutes ago

I dont believe in evolution. I don’t believe in god either. I don’t base my knowledge on believes. Fuck you Bill Nye, and all the condescending bullshit that people like you are in to in this century.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

You are super-ape-right! These people need awe for wake up! They were nurtured separated from Mother Nature by a layer of black asphalt surrounded by tall cements trunks mimicking our trees. I am coming from Amazon jungle, educated and nurtured by the real salvage but pure spirit of Nature. I am here for pulling back the mind of these people to Reason. Look this forum! Nobody uses a unique language of Nature! Worldwide floods, ape transforming into humans, black holes eating galaxies… !!!

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Martin Koch 7 minutes ago

Whether you believe in evoluiton or not matters just as much as if you believe in photosynthesis…or not.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Zoloto, please, pull the ears of this man for him wake up! He is making comparison between evolution and photosynthesis, OK, let’s go use his own argument. The same error he does when looking to photosynthesis he does when looking to evolution. He forgets to see the flow of energy that lift up from the flower linking her to the star and he forget to see the flow of meaning and forces that lift up from biological evolution linking it to Cosmological evolution! That’s why Modern Synthesis wrong!

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docmatt31765 1 hour ago

i already covered the big bang thats just as much a farce as evolution

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Your are the proof that Nature uses making things beginning with singularity and Big Bang: the astonishing simplicity of a microscope ball called ova and the explosion of an spermatozoon… and voilá…here are you! Do you want a universe or a human being? What do you thing about a giraffe? The forces, mechanisms processes are the same…if you knows about the History of evolution of these mechanisms. Why do you need imaginary friends and think that these real tools are tolls, like a baby?

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docmatt31765 18 minutes ago

By comparison only 1020 grains of sand could fit within a cubic mile and 10 billion times more (1030) would fit inside the entire earth. So, the probability of forming a simple cell by chance processes is infinitely less likely than having a blind person select one specifically marked grain of sand out of an entire earth filled with sand.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

The probability that free radicals produced by entropy of a human male body after the 16s’ goes to a center where all them are joined producing a genome – like the Earth produces magma at its center – and then, this whole body be joined with a female body, which has produced her genome, and reactions from which results a final new system cell, developing a new human body, is equal to…? Welcome to abiogenesis where the union of Mother Earth and Father Sun is well explained by Matrix/DNA Theory

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Louis Charles Morelli 10 hours ago

Humans and apes are two products of “creation” not understood by evolutionists and two products of “evolution” not understood by creationists. In blastula, billions of cells “evolve” and differentiate to form different organs, all directed by a prior reproductive plan to “create” a new organism. Likewise all the different lifeforms are being directed to form different parts of a new machine, a biosphere that will be the reproduction of this astronomical machine. We need save our mind.

ExtantFrodo2 10 hours ago

yes, do put “evolve” in quotes there. Those cells do not change genetically to differentiate. In fact, differentiation is part of the genetic package as a whole which is inextricable from the formation of the phenotype. It is bad form to conflate “change over time” (which might as well be applied to ANYTHING), with the more specific notion of biological evolution.

The Matrix/DNA Theory has solved this problem also. Different species as rats and apes or lizards and amoebas does not change genetically also…in relation to biological systems’ source, the Last Universal Non-Biological Ancestor. The difference we see at these genomes are due they are slices of the original genome, genomes does not expresses all informations from the source. Macroreproduction is different of microreproduction in the way genomes are transferred: they are free in the space

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illegalconspiracy 1 hour ago

“There is enough information capacity in a single human cell to store the Encyclopedia Britannica, all 30 volumes of it, three or four times over.” Dawkins

If its unreasonable to believe that an encyclopedia could have originated without intelligence, then it’s just as unreasonable to believe that life could have originated without intelligence. J Sarfati, Ph.D

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

It is not unreasonable because we can see nature doing it without using intelligence just now: she resumes an adult human body with more informations than in the cell into a microscope chromosome. Nature applies nanotechnology since the Big Bang: she had resumed a whole working perfect astronomical machine into a cell system, through the process known as abiogenesis. What intelligence has used mother giraffe for resuming the informations of her body and transferred them to her baby?!

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QUESTIONANDO THE SCIENTIFIC MAINSTREAM CONSENSUS:

DarwinsFriend 1 day ago

> With automatons like you simply repeating your programming and never challenging anything, science is safe from any need to advance.<

The rover on Mars – functioning – would say you’re full of crap.

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Scientists didn’t do that, it was engineers!

You seem to be confused between those who speculate and claim to be scientists and those who bring science to life.

You may think of a flashy new design for your car but an engineer will put that design on the road.

Science may waste Billions of dollars searching for planets that we will not be able to visit in a million years while engineers are bringing water to the land of millions of hungry people here on earth. Get things in perspective please.

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DarwinsFriend 19 hours ago

The Mars rover Curiosity has found something — something noteworthy, in a pinch of Martian sand. But what is it? The scientists working on the mission who know are not saying. Outside of that team, lots of people are guessing.

The intrigue started last week when John P. Grotzinger, the Mars mission’s project scientist, told National Public Radio: “This data is going to be one for the history books. It’s looking really good.”

11/27/12 NYT

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billymodo 36 minutes ago

It’s incredible to see just how many Pharmaceutical Corporations are on the verge of a particular medical breakthrough, Or how Archaeologists are just getting to the real exiting part of a dig, or how some science department are on the verge of an epoch making discovery. etc… just as the vital government funding/subsidy is up for renewal.

Call me an old cynic but…. I think I’ve seen this before, What ever it is I’m guessing it’ll cost the taxpayer a kings ransom, and for what?

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Do you know something? You are fuck..right! You brought an issue very important, and I would like to learn more about how are you thinking. If I got it right, Science was founded by pioneers as Sir Francis Bacon as a way for ordering the mess that was the empirical data collected by Humanity. The search for real knowledge of the real world for improving the human conditions of life. Am I wrong? If not, don’t you agree with this goal? If you agree, what is the difference with Science today?

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RogerS4JC 16 hours ago

@geezusispan “In the olsd days everyone was programmed to believe in some religion, just like now.”

I was programmed to believe in Evolution by the public school system and became an outspoken proponent. Only the evolutionary model was taught and no competing theories. I had a moment of honesty with myself that I was not 100% sure only 99.9%.  Since the stakes were very high, it was enough to commence my own investigation to confirm or falsify a 0.1% chance I may be wrong. God won decidedly.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Did you commence yours own investigation?! Ok, it means that you brought all collected real data ( fossils, genetic maps, etc.) over the table and tried to connect them in a different way that Darwin and Modern Synthesis did. I am very, very interested how one can do this exercise of connections and finally getting the same results that the Bible’s authors got. The unique possible way is inserting magical non-natural forces as links among events, but, where do you got these forces from?!

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TrueVerdicts 12 minutes ago

You should type this 100 times. Look, I have a drill which I do where I simply ask them easy questions as in a contest — and they’re immediately rendered dumbfounded.

These guys are FINISHED! Evolution was conceived by some 18th century old dude, when we didn’t know better. Now, we’re able to see sites and edifices left behind indicative of intelligence preceding Humans.

Evolution has no center, no root, no basis, no continuity, and gives absolutely no sense to life. It’s just convenience.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Nope. Evolution is surviving and facing yours eyes, here and now. I will not mention the facts and evidences that atheists rationally has repeated here to exhaustion, I will appeal to a natural process: human embryogenesis. What is the immense diversification of different cells seen in any blastula, coming from a unique ancestor, a unique first cell, that emerged at fecundation? What is the sequence of transformations of shapes from morula, blastula, till the shape of yours grandfather?

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TrueVerdicts 25 seconds ago

1) This theory, which is NOT yours, would also negate everything science has proposed. So at this point I don’t know where you stand.

Nonetheless, YOU agree with this theory; I, on the other hand, am a philosopher as well; and I cannot say that I agree with it.

Additionally, this theory would render negligent the desire to imagine and philosophy, as it predicts that one would make such efforts to no avail.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Everything wrong, True. If you are referring to Matrix/DNA Theory, yes, I elaborated it, as prove the copyrighted originals. It does not negate any data collected buy Science, it only conflicts with others theories from scientific thought. If you don’t agree with it because you are a philosopher, I agree because I am a philosopher. The difference is that I kept holding the foundations of philosophy which is Naturalism, while you went away becoming a mystic. No, it does not predicts that.

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TrueVerdicts 1 week ago

4) Religion’s argument that a single-being God created the Universe is also errorneous. The Universe is self-intelligent, was not created, but engineered itself. The Absulute God is physically the Universe (in other words, the Universe is what God is).

The one-being god of religion is/are Human(s). It is overtly said in the Bible that he/they are Humans. e.g “in the likeness of God”. It also specifies that it WAS NOT just one being, e.g “let us create man”.

TheMatrixDNA 1 week ago

Stop saying “the universe is… or is not…”, this is totally nonsense. We have not seen the last frontiers of this Universe, we have no clues about its size, complexity, meanings. No aliens, no gods, talks with someone that you know that are not lying. Everybody knows that you don’t have enough information about do Universe. Do not be ridiculous. Introduce yours theories with education, asking evidences, known facts, pro and against it, don’t try to be our dictator.

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TrueVerdicts 1 hour ago

If you wish to omit the phrase “the universe is” from your lexicon, by all means do that. In doing so, you must also suppress the accolade of the term ‘universe’ with any other verb, not just ‘to be’. In doing so, you will not speak of the of the word. I’m quite fine with you doing that! I won’t:)

Allow yourself to think and conceive on your own (and not simply resorting to referencing/reciting another man’s written data), then you’ll see the necessity in expressing that which you conceive.

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Terncote

Terncote 52 minutes ago

“In doing so, you will not speak of the of the word. I’m quite fine with you doing that! I won’t:)”

TwueVeredick – Grande Administrator of Lexicons and Dispenser of Universal Laws!!!!

“Allow yourself to think and conceive on your own …”

What escapes you is that MAtrixDNA actually IS expressing an original and personal perspective. While he is enthusiastic about his ideas, at least he isn’t an insufferably self important prick about it, unlike you.

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Louis Charles Morelli 48 minutes ago

True…, you said: “The Universe is self-intelligent, was not created,…” You are affirming things that are not seen inside the Universe, you are appealing to things that could be existing beyond the Universe”. Here is the mistakes produced by yours logic. You can say “the Universe is…” when referring to things observable from humans conditions, like “the universe is this super-agglomerate of agglomerates of galaxies…”

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TrueVerdicts 20 minutes ago

I REFUSE TO CONTINUE TO DEBATE YOU GUYS when U cannot begin to give an explanation to sites & edifices that are on Earth that our group of Humans, obviously, did not build. You’re not just gonna close your eyes on them yet, continue to blah-blah-blah. It’s a waste of my time!

I’M ORROGANT, I’m logic. I’m not a Daniken or a Sitchin. You need to just shut up & listen to this truth, period. This truth will be made available for those intelligent to consider. The rest of you can carry on in error!

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Poor man, you are going to be disappointed and it is very sad discovering it too later. I will repeat again the most profound and true logic for being observed by all humans that wish to keep the control of their minds: Godel’s Theorem: : Nobody can know the Truth about a system standing inside it”. You was made by this system called Universe, you are inside this system, you never went outside it, you never saw it from above, you CAN’T KNOW THE TRUTH. We need you as a health mind, an open mind

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TrueVerdicts 25 minutes ago

2) …meaning when we encounter a planet able to bear life, the beings there are going to have similarities with Humans, are going to have those 3 common senses — and btw, Humans are still going to be superior to them there that are not Humans.

In conclusion, similarities are going to be common throughout The Universe, but it doesn’t mean they’re the same. & certainly are not equal to Humans. So I resubmit to you that Humans didn’t evolved from Earth despite the similarities science insists on

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Have you seen a model of non-biological living being? Go to Matrix/DNA models, if you are not seeing my picture here. All life’s properties are presents at a theoretical model built only with the known seven shapes of astronomical bodies connected mechanically and floating in sidereal space. The principles for these 3 common senses are there also. If this system real exists, it was our creator, but he can go by others ways creating intelligence in creatures you can’t imagine.

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Tom Adams 7 minutes ago

looks like the atheists are for the most part celebrating the sabbath!

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Do you know what’s a real sabbath? I was invited to watch one by an international people. It happened at Serra Pelada, Amazon, at the top of a mountain that has produced 400 tons of gold. They are deists, but the “spirit” they invoked calls himself “Lucifer”. When he saw me came and said: “You are here! You lived 3.000 years ago for doing a mission here and you didn’t it, because you surrounded under thentations of the king’s palace. Yours name was Socrates. You came back, do it right now…

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Tom Adams 13 minutes ago

That was interesting…

does this happen often?

have you calculated the patterns that cause it?

BTW: be careful with satanic rituals…

you would not want a demon to possess you, would you?

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Yes, but you are not such ingenious for believing that “spirits” and “Lucifer” were there, are you? And there is no such thing as “demons possessing someone” Knowing that I was a naturalist doing research it was easy for them inventing this lie as “Socrates”. No, it does not happen often, I never had notice about they there again. Yes, there are patterns you see at others rituals from African origins, like “candomblé” , Yemanjá, etc.

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Tom Adams 1 hour ago

so you exclude all things beyond you ken?

if you think about it, I just reduced your argument to absurdity…

Indeed you may be more likely to use UFO’s as an explanation than the Great God who, I believe, created the Laws of Physics, to which he is not subject, the Universe as a result, and all life…

If so, you may consider yourself a PHD from hollywood…

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

All “laws of Physics” emerges from a single vortex, Tom. Pay attention to real facts you have here and now, try to observe them with yours intelligence, instead being lazy and escaping from hard work appealing to a magic and powerful daddy in the sky. Vortexes as those popping up at yours yards, also can pops up at the vacuum. They comes rotating in two different directions, so you have spin right and left, the origins of all opposite duality and asymmetric on this world. Included the (cont)

different characters between male and female humans. Due all them having the same shape (phenotype), but different spins, has all symmetry, like the half-left and half-right sides of your face.Vortexes are spirals that arises and disappears, from here you get all phenomena being or inertial-tendency or motion-tendency. Each ring of a vortex has different size, different velocity, and from here arises all other physical properties and the fuzzy logic that acts as variables composing genotype.

Tom Adams 4 minutes ago

Lazy?

cmon, louis…

you have absolutely no idea where the Laws of Physics came from…

people have likened me to the improbability vortices in chaos theory, btw…

stuff always happens around me…

or maybe I notice it better than most…

what is the source of your observations, btw?

they remind me of new age physics…

are crystals involved?

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

I don’t know where the Laws of Physics come from, but I need to know the source if I want better conditions of human life for me and everybody. There are three methods just now: 1) The scientific naturalist reductionist method basing its theories upon the field of Physics; 2) The creationist method basing its theory over ancient narratives of relations between humans and non-natural entities; 3) Matrix/DNA, basing its theory upon the naturalist systemic worldview and narratives of humans-apes

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Tom Adams 20 minutes ago

then you are certain to be disappointed…

Until we are cognizant of Beyond The Big Bang, all we can do is create theories that will probably be wrong…

how does the source of the laws of physics have anything to do with creating “Even it it were true, and we have no reason to believe it is”…

That sounds suspiciously like eco-baloney science…

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

No, you are at the risk of being disappointed quickly than me! Because you have permitted your mind to do the dangerous jump from the real Nature we see here and now towards beyond the Big Bang, you have falling somewhere and thinking you are at the right place. Yours position have no the solid foundations I am keeping under my feet. For to calculate the source of natural laws that created this Universe I am based on the source of laws that created my natural body: the source is “natural parents

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“people have likened me to the improbability vortices in chaos theory, btw…”

These people are being driven by the normal state of any human being here and now that maintains the control of their reasoning. Humans emerged from this biosphere, this biosphere is better observed at virgins regions like Galapagos and Amazon jungle, and there rationally we see evolution and chaos. So, human beings were made by the chaotic state of Nature, it explains the intuitive state of mind doing Chaos Theory

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“stuff always happens around me…or maybe I notice it better than most…”

But you can’t be limited to the stuff that is happened around us for building yours worldvision, because what are happening here and now are being influenced by forces coming from the invisible levels of micro and macro dimensions. So, it is this astonishing phenomena we see as diversity of biological systems here. Yours method and the reductionist method used by Modern Synthesis are bot non-complete.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

“what is the source of your observations, btw? are crystals involved?”

If you search at Matrix/DNA website you see a chapter opened investigating crystals, we are doing research about. Crystals seems to be formations of matter containing the half part of informations for doing a biological system, but Nature discovered that they are dead end, not as much flexible for continuing the process of formation. So, from crystals were extracted the principles of replication and catalysis.

ergonomover

ergonomover 4 minutes ago

Your ‘logic’ is so fuzzy, it is like a hairball: nothing but fluff.

Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

This logical thinking could be wrong, I am not the owner of the Truth and I know that I don’t know almost anything. But vortexes are real things that are real and disposable for scientific verification, so, my logic is a Science-opener. In other hand yours magical thinking based on the supernatural has no real things for scientific verification, you are a Science-stopper. I don’t want that you be the professor of my kids because I am seeing that the most powerful force for humans is Science.

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TheFallibleFiend 24 minutes ago

The Dunning-Kruger Effect ensures that those who are the most profoundly ignorant of science which continue to reject evolution based on their cartoon “understanding” of it.

The Dunning-Kruger Effect ensures that all scientific mainstream consensus, which are always temporary because human kind remains ignorant of the most profound phenomena of Nature, continue believing that the Modern Synthesis interpretation of the existent natural process of evolution applies only over biological systems, losing the wish to continuing to search the whole truth about evolution at more distant levels, like at astronomical and atomic systems. So, ToE remains a non complete theory

TheFallibleFiend 19 minutes ago

Thanks for that demonstration!

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

It is the same method of demonstration being used by the defenders of Modern Synthesis as the ultimate and complete truth: putting the fossils over the table and defending that there is a chain of connectedness among them, and this chain works under some mechanisms. My demonstration is taking every day all provisional shapes of astronomical bodies and all discovered states of atoms, putting them over the table and following the intuition that there is universal evolution. What’s the problem?

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RogerS4JC 4 minutes ago

@tsub0dai “where was this data published? oh that’s right. it wasn’t”

Moving the goal post:

@tsub0dai “CRSQ isn’t peer reviewed scientific literature”

“…Newton’s Principia, & Einstein’s original paper on relativity was published in a scientific journal (Annalen der Physik), but did not undergo formal peer-review. Darwin’s own theory of evolution was first published in a book for a general and scientific audience — his Origin of Species — not in a peer-reviewed paper.” – Casey Luskin

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Edmond Goo 44 minutes ago

Come on, it’s been 10 years. Dr. Behe held up the flagellum as an example.

You are so very wrong.

Now Japanese researchers have uncovered a bacteria with 7 engines working together. This is 7 times worse than Behe’s original flagellum yet Behe’s flagellum is unchallenged.

Don’t ignore the evidence. Embrace it. The truth will set you free.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

“Your search – Japanese researchers have uncovered a bacteria with 7 engines working – did not match any news results” – Google

Could you be more specific? Do you have a link?

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Luz: Mostrar Quadro da Luz para esta Cientista que Pesquisa Sinais de Luz vindos do Cosmos

sábado, dezembro 8th, 2012

Are Extraterrestrials Sending Us Signals By Manipulating Starlight?
Alien Messages Could Be Found In The Stars – Astrophysicist Says

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/alienmessagesinthestars.php

MessageToEagle.com – Some alien civilizations can be so advanced that they can manipulate lights from the stars. By doing so, these beings can send signals across the Universe.

This means that there could alien messages concealed in the stars. We could find them if we only knew how and where to look.

This is what Lucianne Walkowicz, a postdoctoral fellow in astrophysics based at Princeton University is suggesting.

Instead of listening to radio transmissions, we should check for unusual patterns of variability. This can be done with help of various software algorithms, Walkowicz points out.

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Xanthine: Molécula Envolvida nas Origens da Vida e Encontrada em Meteóritos, Reforçam a Teoria da Matrix/DNA

sábado, dezembro 8th, 2012

Lendo o artigo sôbre Panspermia, descrito abaixo, descubro hoje a existência de uma molécula, Xanthine, e uma rápida pesquisa revelou que tudo nela, inclusive sia fórmula quimica, bate em tudo com as previsões dos modêlos teóricos da Matrix/DNA feitas há 30 anos atrás. É fascinante a explicação sôbre o que produziu esta molécula, porque ela foi feita aqui, e para que veio.  O artigo onde a encontrei estará em outro artigo a ser feito aqui porque n6ele estamos analizando a questào da panspermia:

Panspermia Theory for Life’s Origins Gets Boost from Top Scientists

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/06/20/panspermia-theory-for-lifes-origins-gets-boost-from-top-scientists/

2008-06-20

By NewsWax

Life is all about information – its replication and processing.” — Professor Paul Davies

(Artigo copiado aqui para ser analizado e comentado item por item pela Matrix/DNA Theory)

A team of scientists from the United States, United Kingdom and the Netherlands have determined that chemicals in a meteorite that form the building blocks of DNA and RNA had formed before the meteorite fell to Earth. In a paper published in Earth and Planetary Science Letters on June 15, the team documents an examination of molecules found in the Murchison meteorite, fragments of which landed near the village of Murchison, Victoria in Australia in 1969.

Previous studies had identified amino acids and sugars in the meteorite that were believed to have formed in space. The samples the current study examined included molecules of uracil and xanthine,

Matrix/DNA: “Isto relembra a previsão feita a 30 anos atrás baseada nos modêlos teóricos da Matrix/DNA de que a uracil é a molécula dos nucleotídeos que foi feita pela função sistêmica universal numero 5, a qual, quando está na forma de building block de galaxias, faz os astros denominados “cometas”, e quando está na forma de sistema celular faz os RNA’s M e T ( mensageiro e transportador). Xanthine é uma novidade para mim, portanto vamos conhecer ela recorrendo inicialmente à Wikipedia:

Xantina é uma base purínica, composto orgânico encontrado na urina e também em diversos tecidos do corpo humano, além de estar presente em algumas plantas.

Um exemplo comum de xantina é a cafeína.

O termo Xantina deriva do grego Xanthos – que alude à cor amarela…

Lol!… Não precisou mais que 3 minutes para identificar na fórmula da Matrix de onde veio a Xanthine e saber para que veio. Ela é uma catalista, ou seja, é como uma bacia chacoalhando e mexendo as substancias dentro dela. Diferentes velocidades do chacoalho, diferentes durações dos chacoalhos e talvez diferentes direçôes dos movimentos produzem diferentes compostos finais. Isto é, a grosso modo, denominado “catálise”. A Xanthine foi produzida aqui na Terra pelas particulas-informação vindas de radiações estelares como o Sol, e/ou de radiação de nucleos planetários, na forma de fótons, que invadem átomos “inertes” obrigando-os à novas conexões, na tentativa de reproduzir o sistema de onde vieram ( pura ação genética).  As informações embutidas na Xanthine se referem ao trecho do circuito sustêmico da fórmula da Matrix/DNA que vai da Função 7 à Função 1. Ou seja, no corpo humano vai do órgão “fígado” ao órgão “coração”; no sistema celular é o trecho que vai da organela “lisossoma” ao nucleo celular: no building block astronomico é o trecho que vai do cadaver estelar ao vortex nuclear. Pela sua ação catalizadora, eu aposto que suas informações sejam mais relacionadas à ultima parte do segmento daquele trecho, devendo já conter metade de informações para elaborar o vortex: ela faz o que faz o vortex no espaço sideral – chacoalhar massa e energia degradada. Se no meteórito encontramos uracil e xanthine juntos, isto significa que a o vortex que está sendo iniciado na forma de Xanthine já está recebendo cometas, espermatozóides do espaço, o que, a nivel biologico significa que naquele meteórito já estava toda a infraestrutura instalada para se iniciar a construção da Vida, ou melhor, de um par de base de nucleotideos. Fantástico!

A fórmula quimica da xanthine reforça nossas interpretações. Vemos um ring completo, com seis átomos ou seja, hexagonal ( o que significa que a forma astronomica foi copiada uma vez e completa, mais uma estensão com uma figura pentagonal, cinco átomos, o que significa que uma segunda cópia da mesma forma foi parada na função 7 ( não conta a F5, que é o ramo interno do fluxo sistêmico, nem conta a F1, que representa-se como a primeira cópia em torno da qual se desenvolve a segunda).  A forte presença do átomo N ( nitrogênio) na segunda cópia (segundo anel) é sempre indicativa de que a fórmula quimica expressa dominantemente o aspecto entrópico degenerativo da face direita da Matrix, pois êste átomo tem numero atômico 7, justamente um a mais do que o Carbono, que na Terra é a cópia fiel da Matrix astronomica. Ora, se um átomo tem em si o sistema completo (6 atomos) e mais um somando 7, isto significa que êle está reforçando a espressão da Função 7 e já abrindo caminho para a construção da Função 1. Por isso a fórmula inteira da Xanthine é esta mensagem: ” aplique-se a êste composto movimentos expressados por mim ( direção, duração, velocidade) que faça um cadaver de sistema ser mais fragmentado, degradado, para ser ressuscitado, ou seja, que um sistema seja reciclado, reiniciado”. Veja na Wikipédia esta informação: “xanthine é o processo resultante da degradação de uma purina”, o que bate mais uma vez com nossas previsões.   Assim a descrição do fenômeno com palavras como está no texto da Wikipedia bate com a informação revelada pela fórmula quimica, e as duas descrições bate com a descrição da fórmula astronomica da Matrix/DNA e as três descrições batem com a descrição da Matrix/DNA sôbre o que são nucleotideos, para depois tôdas estas descrições baterem com o significado existencial que a Matrix/DNA sugeriu para atomos, galaxias, células, corpos humanos. Assim funciona uma lógica numa teoria racional (claro, uma pobre racionalidade como só poderia ser a racionalidade limitada ao nosso pequenino cérebro perdido nêste pontinho insignificante dêste imenso Universo. Com o avançar do nosso conhecimento deve avançar o alcance da nossa racionalidade e então, suponho, mais completa e rica será a descrição).

Copiemos aqui a fórmula da Xanthine:

Xanthine A Molécula na Origem da Vida do trecho entre F7 e F1

Xanthine A Molécula na Origem da Vida do trecho entre F7 e F1

E sua aparência como compôsto atômico:

Xanthine: A Molécula na Origem da Vida do Trecho entre F7 e F1 - Aparência Atômica

Xanthine: A Molécula na Origem da Vida do Trecho entre F7 e F1 - Aparência Atômica

Wikipedia:

Xanthine is a purine base found in most human body tissues and fluids and in other organisms. A number ofstimulants are derived from xanthine, including caffeine and theobromine.

Xanthine is a product on the pathway of purine degradation.

Terei que rever tudo sôbre purinas, guanine, PNP, para aprender mais como é isso tudo. Por enquanto, paro aqui porque o trabalho está exigindo minha presença lá fora, para retornar e continuar isto se a vida o permitir.

Sensacional! Imagens do Momento da Ovulação Idênticas às Imagens do Modêlo Cosmológico da Matrix/DNA

quinta-feira, dezembro 6th, 2012

Momento da ovulação é fotografado pela primeira vez

http://hypescience.com/momento-da-ovulacao-e-fotografado-pela-primeira-vez/comment-page-1/#comment-240015

HypeScience

Óvulos e Imagens Iguais à Cosmologia da MatrixDNA

Óvulos e Imagens Iguais à Cosmologia da MatrixDNA (click na imagem)

Incrível como isso possa acontecer! Desenhos feitos precáriamente nas árduas condições da selva amazônica, há 30 anos atrás, agora são fotografados como fatos reais! E maior a surprêsa quando sabemos que a observação da natureza biológica aqui na Terra nos conduziu a suspeitar que estes fenômenos seriam evoluções de fenomenos que ocorrem no espaço sideral, e que poderiamos calcula-los, desenha-los. Mais uma vez mais uma previsão correta, quando esta nova visão do mundo previu que a formação de óvulos e tôda a sequencia que leva ao nascimento de humanos é exatamente igual a toda a sequencia que leva ao nascimento de astros, planetas e estr6elas!

Observe o desenho calculado na selva para origens dos astros:

Matrix/DNA Universal - Modêlo Cosmológico Original

Matrix/DNA Universal - Modêlo Cosmológico Original

Estás vendo como se trata exatamente do mesmo processo, até as formas são imitadas biológicamente aqui?!

Texto do artigo e a seguir, comentário explicativo:

“Observar a ovulação em humanos é extremamente raro e as imagens anteriores foram confusas. Jacques capturou o evento por acidente enquanto preparava uma histerectomia parcial em uma mulher de 45 anos. A liberação do óvulo foi considerada um evento repentino e veloz, mas as imagens, que serão publicadas na revista científica Fertility and Sterility, mostram que o evento leva, ao menos, 15 minutos. Pouco antes da liberação do óvulo, enzimas decompõem o tecido do folículo maduro, uma bolsa cheia de fluído na superfície do ovário que contém o óvulo. Isso leva à formação de uma protuberância avermelhada e, depois de algum tempo, surge um buraco, do qual o óvulo emerge envolto por células de apoio. Em seguida ele entra na trompa de Falópio, que o leva até o útero.”

Comentário postado pela Matrix/DNA:

Louis Morelli6.12.2012

Muito grato por estas imagens que são mais uma evidência para os modêlos evolucionarios da Teoria da Matrix/DNA. Estas imagens foram desenhadas e registradas há 30 anos atrás como resultado dos modêlos teóricos, porque são exatamente iguais às imagens do nascimento de uma nova estrêla, como se pode ver no site da Matrix/DNA Theory. Mera coincidência? Não, isso é evidencia de Evolução Universal. Compare os dois textos descritivos:

Matrix/DNA: “Antes da formação e uma nova estrêla, a entropia (enzima)decompõe uma velha gigante vermelha em fragmentos os quais formam uma nebulosa (ovário) a qual gira em rotação formando um vortex central (folículo maduro)contendo a massa degradada com todas as informações do sistema (genes). O turbilhão produz esferas incandecentes e se fundem com cometas capturados (óvulos mais espermatozóides) e com certo pêso são emitidos ao espaço sideral onde passarão pelas fases de baby-stars, planetas, pulsares, supernova, gigante vermelha e o ciclo recomeça…

Como vemos, o que está em baixo é cópia do que está encima e nós somos filhos das estrêlas.

Mas na Natureza, para realizar um processo, muitas vêzes um mecanismo é várias vêezes repetido. Podemos ver tambem os óvulos como sendo as partículas e fragmentos que resultam da fragmentação da estrêla na Função 7. Assim o cadaver estelar que é formado e aparece na imagem como metade da estrêla se decompondo pode ser visto como folículo maduro, e o canal que conduz os fragmentos a se contituir no vortex pode ser visto como a trompa de Falópio. Na verdade o óvulo é o fragmento estelar. pois apenas ele serás misturado aos cometas para formasr a esfera incandescente, que representa o óvulo depois da fecundação.

Ninguem me “Cutuca” No Maior Debate da História que Está Acontecendo Agora No Youtube? Brasileiros! Tucuta-me…please! (8)

quinta-feira, dezembro 6th, 2012

Veja os numeros anteriores dêste capitulo (7,6,5…) para informar-se.

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TheMatrixDNA1:05 PM – Dec – 13

The idea of Evolution is better than the biblical creationism because evolution leaves the mind as opened door to grow by itself, while creationism having all answers closes that door. But, like creationism have being used by mafias, groups, like the ancient Jews killing other tribes authorized by their god – if evolution is taught as blind, by random, with any purpose, it is a closing door also and can be used by mafias, dictators, etc. Matrix/DNA saw an evolution purpose: Humans Trancendence

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TheMatrixDNA4:27 PM – Dec – 12 – 2012

Evolutionism, as described by Modern Synthesis, is the modern religion, in opposition to deism described by Bible. MS says “natural selection is a logical process, non random selection of mutations”, but MS says “this occurs partly because random mutations.” Then, NS is a occurred random process because its motor, its productor, is randomness. Like God does for creationists, NS fits all gaps for atheists. We don’t know scientifically why evolutionary mutations happened. Theories are welcome

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TheMatrixDNA7:48 PM – Mon – Dec – 10

Where the idea of a talking snake in the Garden comes from?

A perfect closed system is the supreme goal of any material being. Such system must have eternal thermodynamic equilibrium for mass(particles) and eternal frenetic motion for energy (waves). This goal was reached when matter built galaxies. In this system you see its channel through which runs the flow of particles/waves. It seems a spiraling serpent swelling its own tail. The serpent is the message of extreme selfishness. Got it?

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The fact that the theory of evolution threatens the existence of God is ludicrous. The Bible (or whatever holy book you use) is full of parables for our understanding. Just because EVERYTHING isn’t explained doesn’t make it any less true. Go with your heart, think with your mind, and things just work out. Zero data for or against God. It’s purely up to the individual.

Samuel Duval 48 minutes ago

Parables can be good for enforcing moral values, but they need be constantly replaced by parables about real situations here and now and cleaned from imaginations about metaphysics, which, we are sure, are not affecting events here and now. Human beings flesh and bones are composed by atoms and the forces of atoms try to driven the whole towards eternal thermodynamic equilibrium, accommodating in any state that maintains “survival”. The belief in God fits this tendency, it is motion-stopper

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Kr0n1k4Lyfe (Creationist) = “The real fallacy are the theories Atheists attempt to come up with to fill in the gaps of a complex Universe they don’t understand”

ExtantFrodo2 ( Atheist) = “Was it making humans the established goal of the universe? We are here quite unintentionally”

Matrix/DNA (Agnostic) = “There is no enough data for understanding the existence of this world. Filling the gaps with magical gods makes no sense. Microbes inside a womb says the fetus is there unintentionally.(?!)

TheMatrixDNA7:09 PM – Thursday, Dec. – 06

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jaimecarrillo 2 hours ago

adam eve ya they never existed neither the big flood or the garden of eden

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 hour ago

Yes, indeed they existed. I am challenging you to do this: Try to make a cosmological model containing all properties of life in it. For sure this must be the right model, because this stupid matter of Earth could not creating properties from nothing. Matrix/DNA model is showing that those symbols used in Bible were real, but used as metaphors for describing the state of the world before life’s origins. Why these symbols are in the Bible? Because past history was inside ancient fresh memories

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MrGralgrathor 1 hour ago

One of these days you really have got to STOP doing drugs, and get a job or something.

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Louis Charles Morelli 26 minutes ago

I have a job my friend, about 50 or 60 hours a week, doing the hard work for producing what I am consuming and something else for helping those that can’t do it. My secret is that I don’t waste time with anything else than working with hands and my intellect, all in name of our EVOLUTION

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MrGralgrathor 9 minutes ago

Yes. You’re a fruitcake. But that’s okay; you’re OUR fruitcake.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

A fruitcake that survived seven years alone in Amazon jungle, facing all dangers? Ask it to those big beasts or smalls vibes that faced me. Or go to read a book existing in Brasil, called, “Os Guerreiros do Arco-Iris” ( The Fighters of the Rainbow) which is a documentary wrote by a journalist telling the real history of Amazon gold mines and see my name there, six times, facing gangs under weapons and heavy shootings. That’s why I am of nobody, except myself and my world view

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

What do you think? A real materialistic, realist mind that does not is a traitor of his mother nature never permits any kind of drugs taking control of self. No, I think that drunk are you and everybody that were nurtured artificially over this layer of black asphalt and could cement that causes the eclipse of our natural soil. You see fecundation and think it is big bangs, you see normal vortexes forming from dust of died stars and think they are ghosts black holes…you are drunk, not me.

Martin Koch 1 hour ago

You sure waste a lot of time jibber jabbering incoherently on this channel.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 hour ago

A non flat earth, the sun as the center of this system, were considered incoherence once time. Give time to time and we will know who is the incoherent here…

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MrGralgrathor 55 minutes ago

Don’t need time. Already know.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Yes, time has anything to do with closed minds. You are a provisional shape of evolution, going to a more evolved shape, but you are working as an evolution-stopper because you think that your little brain and your condition as a microbe in this Universe are enough for grasping the final truth, of there is one. What’s delusion!

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 hour ago

@illegalcon

He said that because he did not know what we know today, and he has not thought as we have thought. For instance he never noticed that Nature applies the mechanism of nanotechnology and its opposite movement, giantology, here and now, facing our eyes: Nature resumes a human body, 150 pounds and 2 meters long, inside a microscope chromosome. She did it when resumed an entire astronomical system into a base-pair of nucleotides. The forces for life are all there, because life was there.

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Tom Adams 48 minutes ago

put there by the Great God…

BTW: mother nature requires the sacrifice of babies…

at least when the cult started…

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Louis Charles Morelli 16 minutes ago

That’s for those that are blind of one eye and see only a half part of the entire Nature. They see only the Nature surrounding us, which is product of chaos, they can’t see the other half, the ordered harmony of the Cosmos above us. The invisible Nature is expressed by the Sun: a star that is busy feeding whit her energy and protecting, enchanting, under her astronomical gravitational wings, her babies planets, who plays and dance around her. This real world loves his babies, that’s my cult, Tom

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Tom Adams 43 minutes ago

Life is something atheists won’t admit is very special…

They have been unable to create it…

but pretend it will be done REAL SOON NOW…

even after 140 years…

Louis Charles Morelli 5 minutes ago

That’s because they did not understand what is “life” and does not know what produced it. They see evolution as any microbe inside an egg watch the evolution from blastula to fetus to embryo and think is watching evolution, when, in fact they are seeing a merely event of reproduction. They need to know the blastula shape of this cosmic egg ( the aglomerates of galaxies) that was here before the fetus formation ( the cell system) and to know the Matrix ( the DNA) that exists inside the blastula

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Tom Adams 9 minutes ago

The Great God is the ONLY one…

Who created the Laws of Physics…

Who caused the universe to form from the residue of the Big Bang created when he created matter and anti-matter from nothing and allowed them to recombine…

Who created all life…

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

You are mixing real phenomena known by everybody with non-real phenomena that only you says they exists. Why?! The universe was formed from the “residues” of a central point, reduced to singularity, that triggered a motion of expansion. But yours own body once time was an extreme singularity inside ova and spermatozoon that triggered a motion of expansion. Why are you blind to facts here and now that explains what happened there at macro level? Can’t you, a fetus, see your “natural” parents?

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Martin Koch 42 minutes ago

Gibberish.

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Louis Charles Morelli 1 second ago

Gibberish is the explosion of a minuscule atom containing all matter of this universe that resulted from the initial event. Gibberish is the non-existent ghost cannibal monster of the space called “black hole”.And etc. Try to avoid mathematics masturbation and computer simulations by a moment, return back to the real Nature, the answers are facing yours eyes here and now.

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Tom Adams 56 minutes ago

these are my beliefs…

do you have a better explanation for the Great God’s creation of the laws of physics, the universe and life?

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Tom Adams 56 minutes ago

these are my beliefs…

do you have a better explanation for the Great God’s creation of the laws of physics, the universe and life?

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TheTapeClub 6 minutes ago

“For instance, Matrix/DNA Theory suggests a model of lightwave spectrum floating over space that carries the code for life/matter.”

“The theoretical model where lightwaves shows the resources for imprinting life on matter.”

I do not understand. Does this hypothesis state that these lightwave patterns are the *cause* of life and matter, or that they are responsible for shaping the necessary information onto matter to enable self replication, etc, and other characteristics inherent to life?

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

This model is a rational sequence from previous models resulting from comparative anatomy applied over living and non-living systems. This method reveals a pattern existing in each natural system, from atoms to galaxies to cells to human beings. Nature makes new systems putting copies of the old under life cycle process, each shape produced by transformation becomes a universal function of new system. Each shape has one state of energy, which is just the sequence of frequencies of any lightwave

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

“Does this hypothesis state that these lightwave patterns are the *cause* of life and matter, or that they are responsible for shaping the necessary information onto matter to enable self replication, etc, and other characteristics inherent to life?”

I am not sure yet. Matter is inertial but invaded by or standing over lightwaves which has different vibrations makes matter acquiring the same sequence, from gamma-ray to radio, which is the cyclic vibrational sequence from babies to cadavers

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Tedward Carpenter 23 minutes ago

Genesis 1:1 “In the Beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth”

What you have said I dont understand, it sounds like a lot of mumbo jumbo, but if you could explain it more clearly I might be able to Grasp it.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Everything is scientifically falsiable, the opposite of yours “Genesis”, so, hands at work proving it is wrong. But..maybe you can save something of yours Genesis. This hypothesis about natural light as the carrier imprinting the vital cycle into matter could be the hands and arms of yours God used for his creations. But, if so, you will need taking out this God from earth dealing with humans because he should be zillions times more greater, placing him to the magnificence that a god deserves.

TheMatrixDNA 1 day ago

Since August there are unite a few people here who have asked for evidence of absolute randomness/nothing producing vibrations. Any evidence presented? There is no scientific method able to produce a total state of world which, moving by itself, could produces the complexity we see here and now. Just the same tired atheist cliches. What’s about keeping the mind opened to search a rational scientifically experimental explanation?

TheTapeClub 13 minutes ago

Oh, we do continue to do so. And for every advance made, the sphere of influence attributed to the gods becomes ever smaller.

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Tedward Carpenter 41 minutes ago

Have you heard that our thumbs are going to get longer form texting? Do you believe this?

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Ok, do you want play? Texting develops and coordinates intelligence. Because for texting we use fingers, not tongs. It happens that our hand is the exactly copy of the universal natural formula used by Nature for organizing matter into systems. The picture of the formula is in Matrix/DNA website, go there and puts yours left hand over the formula, while the palm must be over Function 1. Now see the meaning of your fingers, from the smaller to last, the running life cycle, the systemic circuit

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Tedward Carpenter 36 minutes ago

Its not just to believe, its to accept Jesus as your savior, and to repent.

Then to follow the Ten Commandments.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

What is the enemy that I need be safe just now? Predators, real predators. If I am a Muslim I need fight against those predators, the sheikhs of the oil; if I am Brazilian I need fight the Portuguese families that dominates the country under slavery by 500 years; if I am American I need fight against those parasites at Wall Street; And so on. I can’t fight my real enemy because you, yes…YOU, are stolen the intelligence of preys while children and they are unuseful for the right fight.You=Evil

Tedward Carpenter 10 minutes ago

What is Evil? What do you have to justify this claim, I could just as well call anyone evil. What makes some one evil?

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

To me, evil is any force going against the rhythm and destiny that my poor intelligence and knowledge can grasp from the Nature I can see in this short lifetime. I am seeing that Nature is investing all its efforts for developing the human brain for better nurturing a new natural system emerging: Consciousness. And any social system or predator or religion that prejudices any human being to have theirs brains developed is a force against Nature. Against Humanity! Freedom of mind, free thinker..

Tedward Carpenter 4 minutes ago

@ TheMatrixDNA

In other words what we see is the only truth?

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

No. Far away from that. We see here and now less than the half of the Truth. We see this biosphere under chaotic state. That’s the dangerous trap hidden behind a theory of biological evolution: one can extract from this chaos his/her moral values, which are primitive savagery, competition, feline smartness, etc. The other way, seeing the ordered Cosmos but does not understanding it is also a dangerous trap for moral values (dictatorship under religion). Intelligence can solve this puzzle.

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Tedward Carpenter 16 minutes ago

I dont understand. And no God will be here creating the valleys.

My I ask what your position is? I know you are a Naturalist. But do you believe that there is a creator, or evolution.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

I don’t “believe” Ted. And I can’t understand those that “believe”. I never forget that I am like a microbe of this Universe, as my body is a echo-system where are living millions of creatures, celled organisms that are not my cells, and I don’t know nothing about them. I never forget the super-agglomerate of agglomerates of galaxies that is this universe, and the size of my little brain. This brain for sure can not know the final Truth, if there is one. So, faith is one losing mental control

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RogerS4JC 2 days ago

@marksmith1117 “is you trying to replace wcience with your personal religious feelings.”

I see a harmony:

“This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, & comets could only proceed from the counsel & dominion of an intelligent & powerful Being.” Isaac Newton

Dilemma:

Religion is not really the issue, but…emptiness, of today’s atheism…without God means turning toward something…we need coherent secular popular philosophies that effectively answer life’s vital questions. -naturalism. org

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TheMatrixDNA 2 days ago

The supreme tendency of matter towards thermodynamic equilibrium transforms chaos into order, harmony. See the beauty valleys, mountains the river running calm, over there? Once time all that matter were dust being burned and moving chaotically without any harmonic shapes. But, in Matrix/DNA, we are seeing that chaos, order, death, are results of matter floating over a wave of light expanding from the Big Bang. Matter oscillates accordingly to region/frequencies of this waves it stands. No gods

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Alan Clarke 22 minutes ago

@TheMatrixDNA “See the beauty valleys, mountains the river running calm, over there?”

Yes. The “supreme tendency of matter towards thermodynamic equilibrium” will destroy all of that beauty by filling the valleys & streams with matter from mountains which erode & flatten.

“The mystery is not that an ordered state should become disordered but that the early Universe apparently was in a highly ordered state.” — Don N. Page, “Inflation Does Not Explain Time Asymmetry”, Nature, 1983

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

While I am appealing to real facts here and now ( the beauty valleys, mountains..) you are bringing on not real facts from here and now, but apparent early universe? Any idea of early universe is still metaphysics. Why not keeping the debate limited to the world that “we” see? Why you change the “we see” for the “I see”? The valleys will be destroyed, the solar system will be dust, the dust will be a solar system, the valleys will be here again. And no god will be here creating the valleys

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DarwinsFriend 3 hours ago

Creationists hang their hat on “A Common Designer.”

Whale flippers with bones in them that look just like humans. The knowing gaze of an orangutan at the zoo – you can just tell what they’re thinking. Dolphins know us and haul us to the beach to keep us from drowning. Crows recognize faces and decide if your threatening at first glance.

The examples are endless and are – of course – not driven by practical design and evolution, but The Lord of Every Molecule and Thought in the Universe, right?

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

I think, everybody (evolutionists and creationists) see evidences of “previous design” always down, like the ancient saw turtles always down. The problem is that this chain going down sometimes is missing solid steps, as “the previous design for human’s consciousness not seen in apes”, the “previous design for the first cell system” not seen in this non organic planet”, the “previous design for the universe not seen in the “nothing”. It is missing turtles here. I think Tom raped them.

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KiDSKEPTiK 26 minutes ago

If you cross a donkey and a horse you get a mule.

The mule has reached its limit and is born sterile.

Cross a lion and a tiger and you get a hybrid called a liger that is also born sterile.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

You don’t know a very deep mechanism of Nature. There is a natural formula responsible by what will be born fertile or sterile. You can see this formula since the RNA/DNA. This formula is like a face, composed by left and right sides, symmetrical phenotype, asymmetrical genotypes. RNA, as the left side, can produces three kinds of copies. One will not be interbreeded, other will be sterile, the third will be fertile, but then, you have DNA. You can see this formula in the sky: the Matrix/DNA

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KiDSKEPTiK 2 minutes ago

Astronomer Robert Jastrow says:

“To their chagrin [scientists] have no clear-cut answer, because chemists have never succeeded in reproducing nature’s experiments on the creation of life out of nonliving matter. Scientists do not know how that happened.”—The Enchanted Loom: Mind in the Universe p. 19.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

And to their chagrin (creationists) have no clear-cut-answer, because priests applying players or magics have never succeeded in transforming nonliving matter or the vacuum into something alive. The problem is in Jastrow’s own field: astronomy. The current astronomical models about stars, galaxies and planetary formations, the way these systems works and the cosmological evolution have no foundations for producing biological systems. The error is in the theoretical models, not in the world.

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5648945621 2 hours ago

Life looks designed because evolution is NOT random.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

That’s a great rational suggestion, I think. But, the very problem still stands: “Which natural system was the design that designed the first cell system?” Of course, must have one. If not, something, some force, coming from some source laying outside the long universal chain of causes/effects/causes… acted over abiogenesis, and I can’t accept it because it should be a non-natural source. The solution for this question will come from comparative anatomy, as being tried by Matrix/DNA models

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DarwinsFriend 20 minutes ago

It has been said (by someone much smarter than me):

“The Nobel Prize winning scientist Linus Pauling aptly described science as the search for truth. Science does this by continuously comparing its theories objectively with evidence in the natural world. When theories no longer conform to the evidence, they are modified or rejected in favor of new theories that do conform. In other words, science constantly tries to prove its assumptions to be false and rejects implausible explanations.”

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

There are problems here. Science does not compares theories, humans do it. Science does not walks by its own legs, it is driven by humans. And humans has bias, always are driven by tendencies, everybody has an ideology. Science never can know the final truth of any real object or event, because Science does not know yet all natural systems aligned in the universal hierarchy that affects the smallest objects. Humans drives scientific tools to accumulate data belonging to their beliefs.

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DarwinsFriend 1 hour ago

That’s where one tool we use acts as an umpire: Computers.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

You are great! If the 500 characters don’t let me finish my thought, you do it for me! Computers! Here is the final mortal trap! An electric-mechanic brain connected to mechanic sensors, investigating the invisible micro and macro dimensions, giving “his” informations to biological brains, included, building theories by simulations and imposing these theories to biological brains’ world view. Welcome to the Brave New World, zombies! No, my friend, I will fight against it till my death!

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TheMatrixDNA 2 hours ago

Evolutionism, as described by Modern Synthesis, is the modern religion, in opposition to deism described by Bible. MS says “natural selection is a logical process, non random selection of mutations”, but MS says “this occurs partly because random mutations.” Then, NS is a occurred random process because its motor, its productor, is randomness. Like God does for creationists, NS fits all gaps for atheists. We don’t know scientifically why evolutionary mutations happened. Theories are welcome

fangednekoyasha 1 hour ago

Jesus fucking christ, you’re retarded.

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TheMatrixDNA 19 minutes ago

Thanks. My lovely, tiny, almighty lord, Pink Unicorn, said that I must forgive you, because you are so ignorant and blind about the final Truth as I am. We must cry together, my friend, or, lifting up our heads and, as soldiers, going to fighter our enemy: ignorance. By the way, Pink said that you go to heaven also and he will give you pink popcorn eternally. Pink bless you…

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fangednekoyasha 39 seconds ago

You have no truth. Just baseless assertions without the slightest scrap of evidence. You’re no better than creationists. In sum, you’re fucking retarded.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

What did you understand when I said: “you are so ignorant and blind about the final Truth as I am”?! I mean that I actually have no truth. I am an Science-advancer, you are a “science -stopper” as will be a whole generations of humans indoctrinated to believe on blind evolution. This belief is dangerous because makes humans to behavior like insects, and insects built societies based on “The Brave New World” under the rules of the “Big Queen”. See ants and bees. PinkUnicorn bless you again…

fangednekoyasha 1 minute ago

You’re no science advancer. Science has evidence. You have none, just baseless assertions. Don’t insult my intelligence, fucking retard.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

When I said I am a science-advancer I was based on that I built theoretical models that are scientifically falsifiable. They will be debunked or acclaimed, that’s for sure. And I said you are a science-stopper because if evolution is blind, if the Universe has no purpose, as you are claiming, without any intelligible theoretical model, you are suggesting things that Science never will be able to falsify. So, you are doing a bad disservice to Science.

Tedward Carpenter 3 minutes ago

What are your religious beliefs?

This is a question of curiosity.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

I don’t know if my mind have religions beliefs or not. I can’t see my mind from outside it. I was raised on the streets as orphan and homeless ( I am still now) but sometimes my relatives lead me to catholic church. The very fact that all those people of that church made me a slave for doing their hard work without paying me as they earn their money, made me conclude that Christian religion is bad source of morals designing bad social systems. I got university and my world view is naturalist.

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DarwinsFriend 1 minute ago

Vestigial Organs

Some organisms have structures or organs that seem to serve no useful function. For example, humans have a tailbone at the end of the spine that is of no apparent use. Some snakes have tiny pelvic bones and limb bones, and some cave-dwelling salamanders have eyes even though members of the species are completely blind. Such seemingly functionless parts are called vestigial organs or structures. Vestigial organs are often homologous to organs that are useful in other species.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Do you really think that if humans had tail they would not be useful? I should be grateful having a long, strong tail ( that’s why I am every morning pulling out my tailbone, and I will teach my next generations doing it also, maybe we can resuscitate our lost tails). At least, a good tail could be used for holding my fast food while driving. What I am trying to say is that Modern Synthesis about natural selection must be wrong in some way. There are more hidden causes there…

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Edmond Goo 12 hours ago

Please explain how those are mechanisms for evolution.

Remember that mutations are over 60% detrimental and only 0.1% advantageous (according to evolution scientists) . The advantageous 0.1% has never been seen to add genetic information.

I’d like for you to explain how random mutation could slowly over millions of years make a wing out of an arm.

Thanks in advance.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Nature can make wings and arms out of a observable universal mechanism. It is the same mechanism that produces tails in comets, cellular flagellum, humans arms and legs. It is the mechanism that produces the channel conducting dust from died star towards a central vortex (aka black hole) for to be recycling. It is the mechanisms that arises from lightwaves when degenerates to the lowest frequencies. It is a mechanism called all time that a natural system chose to express it.

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Tedward Carpenter 1 hour ago

Jesus was a real person, the old testament is the history of the Jews Gods chosen people, No theologian would disagree with that.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

If the Jews’ god chosen them and not us also, this God is not my god and I should hate him, if I didn’t conclude that those Jews were lying. If you believe in this god, keep it to yourself, doesn’t be a social public asshole because there are lots of people in Western civilization that hates gods and those foreign people that discriminates us. I am interested in Jews history as I am about Chinese, Hindu, native Americans, etc, history, but, their ancient interpretations of History is ridiculous.

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rogerden roger 15 minutes ago

Since August there are unite a few people here who have asked for evidence of God/designer/creation. Any evidence presented? Just the same tired creationist cliches.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Since August there are unite a few people here who have asked for evidence of absolute randomness/nothing producing vibrations. Any evidence presented? There is no scientific method able to produce a total state of world which, moving by itself, could produces the complexity we see here and now. Just the same tired atheist cliches. What’s about keeping the mind opened to search a rational scientifically experimental explanation?

lordlandraid 39 minutes ago

If you had even read my response to you earlier you might of realized why the post you just did was idiotic… What you are asking for isn’t evolution. That’s a straw man. Maybe if you actually read up on evolution and learned what it actually is, you could ask a proper question, but right now your question starts with a false premise and no one is going to answer it outside of saying ‘your question is wrong’.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

The question remains: “Is there a scientific method able to produce a total state of world which, moving by itself, could produces the complexity we see here and now? All yours post is words expressing metaphysics and escaping from real facts.

ngc2440ly 36 minutes ago

Ignoring the massive straw man you decided to use you do realize the majority of the major contributers to evolution were quite religious. Remember, evolution doesn’t exclude religion despite what some ignorant people want to believe.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

The amount of evidences I can see here and now shows total absence of metaphysics. The mechanisms and processes I see here and now are all from forces that are from natural precedence. Yes, the world that I had experienced all my life suggests evolution and exclude religions. Is your world different than mine?!

mia wick 17 minutes ago

If youwant to talk ab out such details feel free to mail me, but discussing things like quantumelectrodynamics or virtual particles is impossible in bite sizes and without links. But to really understand those concepts requires quite a bit of learning, and quite a few other qualities not too many people have.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Do you know any lab where I can go and see a space fit with nothing and producing vibrations? Observing the spectrum of vibration on screens does not prove that nothing produces them and I don’t know how one can prove that the space is fulfilled with only “nothing”. There are people here advocating that this world came from nothing, that’s why I am arguing against.

For instance, Matrix/DNA Theory suggests a model of lightwave spectrum floating over space that carries the code for life/matter

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mia wick 22 minutes ago

There are computer simulations, which is a recognized scientific method, that can show you evolution happens and how it happens. Other then that you woulöd need a 4 billion year experiment, which isnt really practicable.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Deism and atheism – the issues here – are related to the question “why” and not “how” or “what”. Computer simulations and exaggerated Mathematics can be a dangerous trap to human beings. Good samples are “the ghost non-existent space cannibal black holes of Stephen Hawking”, the most computer’s models about astronomy every day being debunked by new Nasa photos, etc. Do you now why happens these mistakes? Computers hardware and programs are not the Universe hardware and program.

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Tedward Carpenter 2 minutes ago

I believe that anyone that does not believe in God has to be quite ignorant, there is much Proof of a Creator, and the people that believe in evolution are in such denial of the truth they don’t see the holes in their theory. May God Bless you for defending your belief in him.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

You are right, “anyone that does not believe in God has to be quite ignorant”. But I am not defending gods here, I don’t know about gods, I don’t know more than the few data collected by empirical methods and the world of my life’s experience. I am quite a ignorant, no problem with that. The theoretical model where lightwaves shows the resources for imprinting life on matter could be the arm and hand of a God, but, this bad world torturing my loved species suggests no gods or a very bad god.

ordlandraid 31 minutes ago

Answer: Yes. The various mechanisms of evolution are perfectly capable of producing the creatures we see today.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Of course, they are. The issue here is about genetic mutations, the motor that triggers biological evolution. Since that one believe in random mutations being the motor, and since “random” have no mechanisms, the whole building called evolution has no answer.

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Chris Gough 21 minutes ago

Pretty black and white there Bill…There are really insane folks who don’t take into account fossil history, geology and the expansion of the universe. But there are also really insane people who don’t take into account the soul, morality and basic human behavior and the design of the universe. The all or nothing approach by, unfortunately you, and many creationists drives me crazy. Everyone has an agenda.

It is not insane to believe in a creator God or evolution when you look at the evidence.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

You are almost at the same level which stands people selecting Matrix/DNA Theory. The unique thing we don’t agree is yours says: “It is not insane to believe in a creator God”. This chaotic biosphere, the normal torture of living beings, are evidences of no intelligent design, and they are evidences of absence of lovely gods watching this horror here. It is not insane believing in magical gods because this is normal to consciousness evolution: children believing in ghosts friends. Be adult

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lordlandraid 19 minutes ago

When you look at the evidence, a god is not implied.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Yes, but when I look at the evidence, absolute randomness is not implied. I see all biological systems coming from parents that were their previous design.

lordlandraid 12 minutes ago

Evolution isn’t ‘absolute randomness’. All offspring are based off their predecessors. Genetic mutations occur with each generation. Most mutations are neutral and are minor mutations at that. We look like we do now, but with enough mutations down enough generations, our offspring would look much different. Evolution isn’t about ‘one thing giving birth to something completely random’, it deals with variations in genetic code that stack upon each other over numerous generations.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

So, the first cause, the beginning of all process that produced this co-lateral process of variation at the genetic code, best adaptation, survival, grow of offspring, and finally its natural selection, is the variation at the genetic code. Is it wrong? But which are the causes of these variations, the cause of the cause?

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icook1723 32 minutes ago

The input is a randomly generated initial population (100), a scoring function, and a mutation rate that will insert random mutations that are not present in the parents. The program then ranks generation zero, and the bottom 50 are “killed”, the top 50 are randomly mated to create 50 new solution. Novel mutants are inserted into these new solutions (3 per generation) and they are scored and ranked with the parents. Repeat this process 2500 generation, and you get clusters of possible solutions.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

That’s great! Labs could save billions dollars, years time if discovers Matrix/DNA models. It is explained by an analogy. Aliens intelligence were observing an Islamic country, trying to understand the behavior, the forces driven those people as organized group. They had hard time because the matter of humans bodies are composed by atoms and cells which has different set of tendencies. Everything were finally explained when they knew about a book, Koran. The Matrix is the book driven proteins

detroitjames2012 48 minutes ago

Nobody is denying the existence of your computer or it’s power to process algorithms. I’m denying your claim of knowing the existence of ‘randomy replicating replicators’ without your consciousness, since randomly replicating replicators cannot randomly replicate resulting in any definable reality without an intervening consciousness to assert it. There would be merely a realm of ‘infinite everything that’s ever possible’ including the idea of randomness and replication.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

My friend! What happens when a first single cell, resulting from the fusion of spermatozoon and ovule, becomes a replicating replicator, making billions of copies, each one different from all others? What is the difference between this scene you can see here and now with the hypothetical scene calculated as abiogenesis, where the results of such replications are supposed to be randomly? But… how are you seeing a mother giraffe (previous design) applying consciousness for her ovule doing that?

detroitjames2012 1 hour ago

Because the existence, idea, and concepts of ovules and giraffes require intervention of some form of consciousness to determine the definitions of those words (and the definition of ‘word’ and the definition of ‘definition’ for that matter).

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

The debate is you think reality is created by consciousness, directly, while Icook and I think that our reality is created by Nature (maybe consciousness exists beyond nature as first cause). We deal with ovules, giraffes as real things at the same level of our material body reality. Birds has no conceptual definitions of giraffes, but they deal with giraffes. Why losing time with things can not be reached by us/our Science? We can’t understand consciousness as babies can’t understand parents

icook1723 1 hour ago

Yes, and evolution computer algorithms clearly show that, “in theory” given a population of randomly replicating replicators and a non-random survival search input, you can achieve results that look like design.

I use such algorithms to generate protein-ligand models that are used as a basis of drug engineering. The program uses “randomness” to search the space of possible solutions to identify the best one. These models are subsequently validated by experimentation.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

That’s very good new information for my personal studies. Could you be more detailed, please? I know I must type yours words doing a Google search, but any direct link will save my time. If I understood it, the key of this method is the “non-random survival model”. How do you has detected the survival search model for molecules, as proteins?! By other hand, I think that Matrix/DNA model of perfect closed systems must be the survival model applied by atoms/molecules (thermodynamic equilibrium)

detroitjames2012 56 minutes ago

In the absence of a higher form of intelligence, HUMAN intelligence is what we have. If HUMAN intelligence (in my view, my consciousness) is the whole of reality, there becomes no need for there to be a universe ‘designed’ for anything BUT human (my) intelligence.

I cannot logically come up with the existence of any other ‘realm’ where quantum entanglement, the measurement problem, and the requirement of a conscious observer to assert reality (double slit) ALL apply.

I am god. Ha! proved it.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

But you could be a dense bubble that pop out from a whole ocean of consciousness ( God, if you want call it). Lots of these bubbles makes a kind of foam above the ocean surface. This foam is the material dense Universe. If we considers this hypothesis, everything can be explained here. Till explains any spectrum of any natural lightwaves recorded in the screen shows how photons pops out from that waves. And this is explained by Matrix/DNA discovering that lightwaves contains the code for life.

detroitjames2012 1 hour ago

Creationism/ Intelligent Design is not the proof of the bible, or odin, or krisha, or anything else. It is the understanding of recognizing design when it is present. Physics allow for clay to self assemble into a statue of Einstein, but if I walk past a statue of Einstein I don’t say “there’s no proof it was intelligently designed. Physics clearly allow for it to happen on it’s own”. I don’t suspend belief in the same logic and reason that allow me to navigate reality because the topic is ID.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Yes, any rational mind can see and recognizes that design is present for producing biological systems and consciousness systems. Still here you are being a rational mind. But any rational mind recognizes that all previous design are naturals. Never nobody saw a previous design made by supernatural beings or laws. Then, which should be your rational behavior? Search in the state of the world before biological systems’ emergency, which was the natural system that contained the design. Or don’t?!

detroitjames2012 2 hours ago

“…any rational mind recognizes that all previous design are naturals.”

This is the equal to saying, “we as humans became aware of, through our experience with the universe, a pre-existing design structure (science, math) and the ‘laws’ that allow for biological evolution (DNA) to occur. It clearly operates with a goal (i.e. create a body) demonstrating what humans recognize as design. All it’s components (quanta), however, did not need to have the goal of creating IT for IT to emerge.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Yes, well said.

But you said: “Creationism/ Intelligent Design is not the proof of the bible, or odin, or krisha, or anything else. It is the understanding of recognizing design when it is present.”

We can recognize previous design without applied intelligence.  I think that giraffes intercourse, the working of their genes, etc., has no intelligent goal when allowing embryogenesis evolution and emergency of a new baby’s giraffe. Where are you seeing intelligent previous design in Nature?

detroitjames2012 2 hours ago

I don’t know how else to say it You have to zoom out. Zoom out so far that you aren’t even holding the damn camera anymore.

“Scoring functions”, “initial populations”, and the mere idea of “random” are definitions of a reality which cannot exist without a consciousness to determine the nature of such concepts.

The fact that you are creating ‘rules of the universe’ by allowing IDEAS even to exist inherently mean you are playing god by allowing your consciousness to determine definitions.

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icook1723 2 hours ago

You seam to be moving into an undefined direction of new age thought. I think you are wrong, pretty dam confidant about it. But when you start talking the relationship of coniousness and reality, you enter a field that is beyond what science can answer. You enter philosophy, and “prof” becomes in the eye of the beholder.

detroitjames2012 2 hours ago

” But when you start talking the relationship of coniousness and reality, you enter a field that is beyond what science can answer.”

— not at all. Quite the contrary. Science shows consciousness is a requirement through double slit, which thus far has not been debunked, despite the best efforts of quantum eraser.

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detroitjames2012 33 minutes ago

Double Slit already did that. It showed consciousness to be a requirement. Otherwise, ‘matter’ exists infinitely everywhere as a conceptual particle/wave duality. It’s properties as ‘particle’ or ‘wave’ rely on the presence of the observer.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

No. Double Slit is seen as wave when observed by human consciousness. But the real material world is the material screen, which has no consciousness, and it see particles, not waves. Go back to my suggestion: we are the bubbles which composes the foam which are above the ocean waterwaves. The foam is the material universe created by our ancestors (atoms, galaxies). The ocean (infinite consciousness) is the waves, has anything to see with this Universe. You are a man, the bubble, live as a man.

You said that you are God, and Hall knew it. No, you are one of those trillions of bubbles that popped out from God, at the instant of the Big Bang. In the shape of yours ancestors ( quarks, protons, atoms, etc.) you created this Universe full of galaxies. Like the bubbles that pops up from the ocean waterwaves creates the foam. See Matrix/DNA interpretation of an electric-magnetic spectrum of lightwaves, see how the frequencies are the code for life’s cycle and how it produces photons-bubbles.

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mia wick 49 seconds ago

First a few links, so we know we are bnoth on the same page here ^^^:

dviceDOTcom/archives/2012/10/i­­s-the-universe.php

technologyreviewDOTcom/view/42­­9561/the-measurement-that-wou­l­d-reveal-the-universe-as-a-c­om­puter-simulation/

simulation-argumentDOTcom/simu­­lation.html

arxivDOTorg/abs/1210.1847

philosophynowDOTorg/issues/75/­­The_Simulated_Universe

What you say is entirely possible, buit so are many other things. I prefer to go with what can be shown through science and philosophy !

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

About this article – I­­s-the-universe a computer simulation? I am astonishing that nobody are considering the most rational alternative, which should be: this universe carries on a reproduction process of what created it (as did by Matrix/DNA). Computation is artificial projection from natural genetics and when we observe an embryogenese process, the shapes of morula, blastula is the same we see as atoms’ nebulae, galaxies, etc. Why the human mindset refuses to hold on the Nature we see here?

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TheFallibleFiend 38 seconds ago

There is evidence of abiogenesis. First there was no life on Earth; then there was life. This had to happen somehow and saying “it must be magic” is not science. You’re not a scientist for good reason, Tom – you’re not any good at it.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

There are ancient wrongs humans concepts that produces these jumps to magical thinking. One is the word “origins” and its common definition. We need fighting this word every time someone uses it. There is no origins of anything. If there were origins, it would means the breaks down of the long natural chain of causes and effects. It is the responsible for wrong separation “life from non-life” when referring to the evolution/mutation of a half-biological/half mechanical into a biological system

Tom Adams 24 minutes ago

sounds like avoidance of origins…

you do realize that what you stated is a corrollary to the original lie voiced by the snake in the Garden of Eden…

is there really room for lies in science?

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Tom… could you looking for the theoretical model (Matrix/DNA) of the state of the world minutes before life’s origins? ( Glup… I mean, before the emergency of biological systems?) You will see the exactly picture of Garden of Eden as it was really. You will see the serpent, Adam, Eve, tree, apple, the fall, etc. This picture is recorded into our memory, it comes by flash and if a person doesn’t know astronomy, DNA, thermodynamic systems, he/she will think that it is about a magical world.

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detroitjames2012 1 hour ago

The laws of Physics and Science break down inside Black Holes and during the Singularity that “Big Bang-ed” to become our universe.

‘Science’ as an ultimate truth of reality is COMPLETELY reliant on the accuracy of that ‘science’ being infinitely pervasive.

Knowing there are areas of space/time in the universe where it is NOT, means it cannot yet be scientifically verified as an ultimate truth, thus it is a FAITH.

If unverified Science = Philosophy; Science = Philosophy

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Are you saying that humans’ theories ( Big Bang, Singularity, etc.) break down the natural chain of causes and effects? Of course, it can’t be in this way. It means our theories are wrong. May you think another way?

At least, The Matrix/DNA Theory, coming from a different pathway, which is analyzing this world from the Biological perspective, other than the Physics perspective, is suggesting other interpretations for “black holes”and “singularity”.

detroitjames2012 14 seconds ago

Obviously they look for mistakes… it’s called “verification”, a requirement to highlight the truth of a theory. You have no way to deny the lack of verification in relation to our understanding of reality, since Science is used to explain (define) our reality, and the nature of what gave rise to substance cannot be explained.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

The goal of rational inquiry is searching for explanations about the nature of what gave rise to substance. And this is the marvelous force driving human knowledge. When all collected data arrives to a point where we see that our method can not advance towards that goal, we go back, before the time that the current theories were elaborated, putting all data over the table, and calculating others ways for arrangement and connections. From here will arise new theories as new guides, as Matrix/DNA

detroitjames2012 3 minutes ago

There’s a word for that….. faith.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

No. Rational minds does not transform theories into faith. rational minds has fundamental rules to obey, like Godel’s theorem; “nobody can know the final Truth of a system standing inside it, as we are inside this Universe”. Rational minds never forget that our brain is too much limited and small facing this immense world and does not know half of informations on it. That’s why Matrix/DNA does not became faith, it is a theory for being tested against real facts.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Tom…you have not answered my questions: Does yours god believe in evolution? I don’t think he is such illiterate for believing in creationism… Hey, can you phone to your god? Invite him came here taking a human course about design. The modern world need new designs. Humans with a long tail for holding fast food while driving, a third leg for carrying the weight, nose with one hole for saving energy, six fingers in the feet for running fast, etc. I will be grateful if you phone him…

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Diego Sheish 2 hours ago

I am a catholic myself, but creationists are just an embarasment for the rest of us christians that want to see the society progress. Please, stop it.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

But if you are a catholic you are doing good things and bad things. You are feeding an institution that works as a counterforce to others fundamentalists religions, this is the good thing. The bad thing is that the catholic doctrine works against the right moral which would build the right social system. Nature is showing a purpose here: development of brains for nurturing the embriogenese of consciousness. 95% of humans today are not doing it. The Bible,Kuran, are viruses against this purpose.

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Diego Sheish 2 hours ago

There is proof of evolution, ergo, there is proof creationism isn’t real. The human baby passes through all the stages of evolution since it’s inception to it’s birth. The human coxis is a vestigial tail, that can only be explained by evolution, as some babies are born with enlongated coxises that resemble a tail, and they can even move it.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Lol… at least someone with a real naturalist Reason! Only theories based in real, observed, known facts by everybody, here and now, can be good guide and source for new discoveries. Other analogy for you: Why Earth has waited billions years before creating a first living cell? Answer: reduces 4.5 billion years to 9 months. Now makes comparison between abiogenesis and embryogenesis. The first cell must be the embryonary shape of fetus. You will see the same process. Nature is only one worker

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

DNAunion- “Direct panspermia proposed natural aliens as the ‘desginers’, no magical superbeings in the sky.”

Matrix/DNA Theory: “Panspermia is wrong when supposes that life had origins on other place, transferring the mystery from here, not solving it. There is no separation between “life and nonliving”, since that everything is natural systems. There is a half-mechanical/half-biologica­l system in the sky (see his picture) that projects itself over planets surfaces making biological systems.

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Alan Clarke 56 minutes ago

@TheHigherVoltage “confirmation bias”

We are all affected by that. No evolutionist wants to think that his belief in universal common ancestry is fundamentally flawed, so he continues in his belief, thinking that evolution works just like the theory predicts. But, being “biased” is not necessarily bad if that bias is based on truth. Scientific theories are not based on truth, but on the best naturalistic explanation available until a better explanation displaces it (which happens often).

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

I agree that there is a natural process of evolution acting over diversification of species and I think I know a better explanation about the universal common ancestry than Modern Synthesis has, I know that this common ancestry is not proved yet, I know it will be merely a part of the next best explanation, but, at any moment, there is any kind of faith, beliefs, here. Understanding that we don’t know the final Truth is like the good Science: continuing to search it.

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1tabligh 37 minutes ago

If man, through the application of scientific instruments and criteria, cannot perceive the existence of a thing, he cannot deny its existence simply because it is incompatible with material criteria, unless he disposes of some proof that the thing in question is impossible.

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TheMatrixDNA 29 minutes ago

You are pretty tight! That’s why I will sue these people that is telling my lovely, tiny lord Pink Unicorn does not exist because the scientific instruments cannot perceive His existence. Thanks and Pink bless you!

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1tabligh 20 minutes ago

The Finiteness of the Chain of Causality!

The materialists may insist obstinately on denying the truth and put forward another specious argument. They may say, “We do not cut off the chain of causality but, on the contrary, perpetuate it indefinitely; we defend the principle of the infinite nature of the causative link.”

So how can great and complex beings emerge from infinite joinings of nonbeing?

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

“So how can great and complex beings emerge from infinite joinings of nonbeing?”

You are making a wrong separation of the Chain of Causality (complex beings and nonbeings) into two blocks and leaving an abysmal gap between then. The final result of this unappropriated method is that you will need to invent something non-natural for to fulfill this abysm. There is no such things as life and non-life. Biological systems were produced by half-mechanical/half-biologica­l systems. See the sky.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

1Tabligh, sorry, I think your brain was structured with false informations (as creationism) then, it is hard-wired in a way that denies you make the right reasoning. As human being, you never can say anything definitive about the Chain of Causality. See this right and proved information: Godel’s theorem: “Nobody inside a system can knows the truth about the system”. We are inside the chain of causality, nobody went outside this material universe, so, there are no conclusions about…yet.

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1tabligh 1 minute ago

To analyze the world of creation in this manner rests on the supposition of a chain of causes and effects and the infinite unfolding of a succession of causes.

However, since each cause is also an effect, it lacks being in its own essence; it is unable to partake of existence apart from the cause superior and precedent to it.

Does life gush forth from the union of the numerous factors that bring about death?

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

The analyses of this world must not rests upon any previous supposition. There are no real data here approving any of possibles alternatives reached by a human brain. We don’t know if there is infinite, if there was a beginning, or if there are a third alternative. So, we don’t know about a “cause superior and precedent to it.” But you have the right to do yours own analyse. The right way is putting all known data over the table, doing its connections and elaborating a theory about the gaps.

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1tabligh 1 minute ago

An essence that lacks life in and of itself cannot be eternal and cannot be the source for life.

If the material world is eternal, it follows that an eternal being should be subject to change and cessation, which is impossible.

Second, if the elements comprising the world are eternal by virtue of their essence, how is it possible that they should enter the embrace of death and disappearance?

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

“if the elements comprising the world are eternal by virtue of their essence, how is it possible that they should enter the embrace of death and disappearance?”

You have a real fact here and now suggesting how it is possible. The composition of hardware plus software of your computer. Think about that. They both will embrace death and disappearance.The whole generation of this software and hardware models will disappears. But computers will be here. DNA, brains, universes can be the same…

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quest4reason 3 hours ago

any analogy can be either misleading or revealing depending on how its received. am asking would not the theoretical processes of evolution beginning after abiogenesis would have occurred, continue to contradict the law of entropy which overall should be preventing the dna molecules from continuing to increase in coherently organized complexity through time?

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

There is a rational explanation about why DNA molecules are continuing to increase in complexity. DNA is a chemical/biological system produced by and existing inside other system. This other system is partially described by Newtonian mechanics but it remains in mystery since we does not know the whole system, the Milk Way an effects from relativity, QM. If this creator system is a kind of system more perfect as machine than biological systems, it is reasonable that DNA is still being built.

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TheFallibleFiend 10 minutes ago

Thanks, Bill Nye, for stating this clearly. Creationists keep spewing about “real science,” but they universally convey a cartoon understanding of what science is and how it works. It’s not an accident that their backgrounds in science are very weak – it’s a prerequisite.

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

From a naturalist philosopher view point Bill is right and wrong. He is right suggesting that a child driven to read and believe in a mythological book suggesting a world view that has no correspondence with the evidences we see here and now will prejudice the rational development. He is wrong suggesting that Science – as the human fight for search knowledge of natural world – based solely in reductionist method – has proved the Modern Synthesis evolutionary theory. It is not.

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Right. But you will never know how it happened. So how can one build a tower without a base? There is no base to evolution so it is useless to me. You start a story from the beginning not the middle.

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TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

Scientists does not arrived to the word “evolution” trying to write a history. They were after the mechanisms and processes responsible by the real existence of these immense variety of species. Their calculations suggested some mechanisms (Variation, Selection, Inheritance, etc.). Then they are testing this mechanism every time a new fossil or a new species are discovered and the theoretical mechanisms fits very well. They are applying these mechanisms in labs and domestic breeds. It works.

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Man invented gods to explain things he could not explain and demons to blame for his own foul ups.

wjpollock 30 minutes ago

Curious thoughts for you: The Bible’s authors wrote what came into their imaginations. This are produced by brains, composed by atoms which are combined and organized by forces from systems more complex than they are. If the calculations from Matrix/DNA models are right, about 10 billion years ago, the most complex natural system was exactly how was metaphorically described in the tale known as “Adam and Even in the Garden Paradise”. It was an astronomical system, made with stars, planets, etc.

TheMatrixDNA in reply to wjpollock (Show the comment) 1 second ago

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ok.. for instance look at the law of entropy, and the difference between how this physical law affects the behavior of living matter vs nonliving matter.

quest4reason in reply to tsub0dai (Show the comment) 18 minutes ago

You need more known informations for building yours interpretations of this world. You are making comparisons between complete organized systems (living matter) with parts, portions, substances (nonliving matter) belonging to other natural systems. It is wrong! Systems must be comparable to systems, parts with parts. If you do the right way you will see that any natural non-biological system (atoms, galaxies) has internal motions, metabolism, homeostasis, etc, all principles of organisms.

TheMatrixDNA in reply to quest4reason (Show the comment) 1 second ago

im sorry you feel that way about life. everything may be made of the same stuff, but there is a difference in how this stuff behaves between living organisms and dead matter.

quest4reason in reply to ColterWasHere 42 minutes ago

Of course there is difference between yours own hands and a hand alone, separated and abandoned on the street. Both hands are made of same stuff but yours hand still is part of a working natural system, the other is not. Why are you making comparisons between working systems (atoms, galaxies, organisms) and dead parts of systems( branches of trees on the soil, dried leaves, etc.) ?!

TheMatrixDNA in reply to quest4reason (Show the comment) 1 second ago

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Science should not endorse evolution or creationism. Science questions everything even evolution. Everything we believe today will most likely be classified as junk science just like we view great minds of the past believing the world was flat to be an immutable fact. if someone tells Bill Nye “I don’t believe in evolution” as a scientist, he should say “Well, I disagree but I respect your opinion.” NOT badger and belittle someone for their opinions.

The AverageJoe 18 minutes ago

I don’t agree. If you was an Egyptian 3.000 years ago and one tells: “We are forcing thousands of slaves for building these pyramids because we believe in Ra, the Sun’s God”, which would be yours reaction? Every time religious group dominates governments the Egyptian history is repeated, here and now(temples). I think the goal of this world ( with gods or not) is developing human brains for the best nurturing of this emergence of consciousness. It means:help all humans’ evolution, no slaves.

TheMatrixDNA in reply to The AverageJoe (Show the comment) 1 second ago

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While rational folks here are holding the line against the creatards, the Discovery Channel is feeding them ammunition in the form of “science programming” from the Curiosity series, specifically this piece of incompetent crap – “Mankind Rising”

/watch?v=z2_-h3I_WXQ

Not even one minute in and the narrator says that abiogenesis “defies the laws of probability”. Next they explain the first cell as being the result of lightening forming DNA.

Please let your displeasure be known.

Terncote 12 minutes ago

I will watch the video but before that, The Matrix/DNA models denies their arguments. Same way that we don’t need applying the calculus of probability for to know that a human fecundated ovule will produce a new human being, we don’t need probability when we know the last natural evolved system that produced biological systems ( the entire astronomical state of the world minutes before life’s origins) for to see the evidences that it will produce a biological system. The current Nebular model..

TheMatrixDNA in reply to Terncote (Show the comment) 1 second ago

The current Nebular model in fact can’t explain the forces and elements that produced abiogenesis, but I think this model is wrong. The Matrix models are not proved yet, but, it shows were are those forces and elements. Creationism is theory also, so, it is a fight between theories. About the second argument, Matrix can challenge the creationist argument by changing lightening for the Matrix’s model of light waves coming from Sun and cosmic radiation and its effects upon terrestrial atoms.

TheMatrixDNA in reply to TheMatrixDNA (Show the comment) 1 second ago

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1) Science claims that Earth has been in existence for 4.5 billion years<= such lack of wisdom! Why would Earth have been in existence for so long, just to harbor its ever most important creed of Humans, 4.497.500.000 years later? And why would Humans have existed 2.5 millions years, then only began to do major intelligent things only in the last 1000 years or so? IT DOES NOT EQUATE. Earth is not that aged, and Humans simply did not evolve, period. (read below)

TrueVerdicts 16 minutes ago

People claims that the human fetus has been in existence for six months <= such lack of wisdom! Why would a fetus have been in existence for so long, just to harbor its ever most important shape, the embryo, seven months later? And why would the embryo have existed 2 months, then only coming to light?! IT DOES NOT EQUATE.

True, see the universe composed by galaxies, see the blastula composed by cells. Terrestrial atoms were waiting the time required by Matrix as the embryo for DNA

TheMatrixDNA in reply to TrueVerdicts (Show the comment) 1 second ago

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A Bonobo – which resembles a Human more closely than any of the other primates from which (according to science) Human alledgedly came from – is not a Human. What science is seeing are similarities. In the while that primate where having their diverse types of “primate” progenies, there had been an intervention, an occurence which brought around the Human creed to Earth. Such occurence is narrated in diverse historical, cultural accts – which science refuses to accept for fear of being wrong

TrueVerdicts 17 minutes ago

But there others theories suggesting different interventions. Do you back up your theory of aliens intervention on NASA’s astronauts? Daniken collected hundreds of evidences, but the theory stopped, waiting for something else. You don’t have something else, no new historical and cultural acts. Matrix/DNA also has suggested this intervention over humans’brains, but the cause should be hierarchy of systems, as happens in computer evolution by the feed-back between hardware and software. So?

TheMatrixDNA in reply to TrueVerdicts (Show the comment) 1 second ago

Science takes the convenient position putting forward numerical claims that not even the mind of their proponents can fathom. Such claim that Earth is 4.5 billion years old is absurd. And that Humans have been around for 2.5 million — but then science turns around and conveniently says that Humans are done evolving! This nonsense is very laughable. So what caused them to be done evolving? Could it be that it’s just a very convenient position to suit their original error that Humans evolved?

TrueVerdicts 25 minutes ago

Ok, I have showed to you that the time of 4,5 billion years and all events in the last 2,5 million years are well supported by Nature when showing the process of embryogenese. Now you ask: So what caused them to be done evolving? The answer is the same. Consciousness is the emergency of the new natural shape of a universal system. Synapses are being modeled and organized to be a natural very complex system. This is other event of embryogenese not in human short time, but in universal long time

TheMatrixDNA in reply to TrueVerdicts (Show the comment) 1 second ago

2) & the funniest thing is when they say ‘oh, these things that are up there, following a constant motion, the planets & moon and all of them.. oh they’re just like that because if you push something it keeps going for ever if not blocked’ — very funny – not demonstrated in real life – & also what set off the original push. Then Einstein tells you “oh, time bends” which is silly, as time does not exist physically. These guys are finished: no proof, no sense, just convenience, it’s very annoying

TrueVerdicts 39 minutes ago

The funniest thing is when people say “oh, these children that are in that house, constant playing around parents sited on the sofa, teenagers and babies and all of them… oh they’re just like that because if you push something it keeps going for ever if not blocked” – very funny, such things does not exists in TrueVerdits real life.

The scene that I see in that house’s nights, is the same I see lifting up my eyes to sky and seeing the evolutionary lineage. Time blends around the family

TheMatrixDNA in reply to TrueVerdicts (Show the comment) 1 second ago

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Of course scientists use antropomorphism to explain phenomenon, it’s completely natural for people to attribute a will to what’s hard to explain. There are many religious reasons why there is thunder and lightning, why the sun rises and goes down. But we do not believe in Thor or Helios anymore, because we have evidence of the natural laws. Evolution is a natural law. It governs selection, and favours effectivity, fitness, survival, attractiveness. And would explain all your examples.

Zonkin in reply to Alan Clarke (Show the comment) 6 hours ago

(…use antropomorphism to explain phenomenon…Evolution is a natural law. It governs selection, and favours effectivity, fitness, survival, attractiveness.”

Not only anthropomorphism, but also, humans beings produces ideas and selects them for justifying their social status, even when they feels predators, feels that are addicts. That’s a sample. Natural selection has discarded fitness, attractiveness, animallist smartness. Where are dinosaurs, lions, eagles, whales? Rats are millions yet

TheMatrixDNA in reply to Zonkin (Show the comment) 1 second ago

Not quite sure I understand you, but yes, ideas might be the next form of evolution. Therefore the term “memes” exist, to describe memetic genes. DNA is nothing more than information that is modified and improved, while bad versions dissapear. We have seen many religious ideas dissapear, but there seem to be a few that still cling to life.

Zonkin in reply to TheMatrixDNA (Show the comment) 36 minutes ago

I am suggesting that the Darwinian mechanisms (Variation,Selection, Inheritance) can be a dangerous thing for atheists here. I think that atheists here are intellectuals, idealists that wish the better future for our next generations. And creationism is not, they approve murderers, corrupts governments, slavery, etc. But, some dictators has used wrong concepts from Darwinism for justifying their actions. Then we need explain, for instance: NS has discarded force, machiavellism, smartness, etc.

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@emfederin “There are no arguments for ID until you can show that a D exists”

Evolutionists know design when they see it:

“The adenovirus is a masterpiece of design. Each one has a single aim to breach a cell’s defenses and reach the nucleus.” – BBC “Our Secret Universe… the Cell”

“[The mammalian blood clotting system is] a powerful real-time distributed computing system.” – James Shapiro

“The world of the evolutionist is drenched in the anthropomorphism of intention.” – Michael Ruse

Alan Clarke in reply to emfederin (Show the comment) 7 hours ago

“The adenovirus is a masterpiece of design. Each one has a aim to breach a cell’s defenses and reach the nucleus.”

We agree with the theory that adenovirus must be product of previous design. A bunch of atoms could not perform all that tasks. But we have different theories about the cause of that design. Yours is ID. Mine is Matrix/DNA. The Matrix models are suggesting that virus are packets of informations from Matrix formula Function 5, which is comets in sky and RNA in cells. Show ID model

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icook1723 1 hour ago

Yes, and evolution computer algorithms clearly show that, “in theory” given a population of randomly replicating replicators and a non-random survival search input, you can achieve results that look like design.

I use such algorithms to generate protein-ligand models that are used as a basis of drug engineering. The program uses “randomness” to search the space of possible solutions to identify the best one. These models are subsequently validated by experimentation.

The input is a randomly generated initial population (100), a scoring function, and a mutation rate that will insert random mutations that are not present in the parents. The program then ranks generation zero, and the bottom 50 are “killed”, the top 50 are randomly mated to create 50 new solution. Novel mutants are inserted into these new solutions (3 per generation) and they are scored and ranked with the parents. Repeat this process 2500 generation, and you get clusters of possible solutions.

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Jesus?We know that Julius Caesar existed because there are documents,including those written by Caesar himself,to prove it.The period of Jesus’ life is one of the best documented eras in the ancient world.The Romans were obsessive historians. They wrote down everything. If there had been a “miracle man” wandering around the empire walking on water or raising the dead, you may rest assured we’d have documented evidence of it.Nothing of substance exists. Nothing.Not a shred of worthwhile evidence

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Boa Filosofia:

billymodo 3 hours ago

OK Bill… In a couple of centuries when our understanding is such that religious belief is gone… What then?

To wake up each day knowing with unyielding certainty that this is going to be one more day in a finite number of days and then that’s it…. Nothing for ever and ever!

Why on Earth would nature give me any sense of self if not to be selfish? Why explore stars that no one will ever visit? Why give my precious and finite moments to anything other than my immediate, self interest?

Pierre Marcotte 2 hours ago

Why fill your need of sense with an imaginary friend ? Why suppose that this immense universe was put here just for you ? Why think that a supreme being would have a child with a measly human, have it suffer, and then die ?

Nature (or life, whatever) does not owe you a meaning or a sense of fulfillment. We are here for a limited amount of time, it’s up to you to use that time as best you can, according to your own values. You don’t *find* the meaning of life; You make it.

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billymodo 1 hour ago

A. You have proved that your understanding is limited in all but your own Eyes. It took a little boy who was ignorant of the knowledge of the Kings invisible clothes to state the glaringly obvious… That the King was naked!

Perhaps you’re too smart to see what is right in front of you! Knowledge without understanding.

B. My nature is to kill you and any one who has stuff I want to take for myself. Nature is utterly selfish. Nature has no conscience. Nature doesn’t judge, It’s just Dog eat Dog!

MrGralgrathor 1 hour ago

“My nature is to kill you and any one who has stuff I want to take for myself.”

Really? Thankfully there’s few like you. Most people are rather good-natured, and hardly think about killing people at all. It’s the neighbourly way to live.

Seriously, if you think you’re really a psychopath, go seek help.

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DarwinsFriend 2 hours ago

> OK Bill… In a couple of centuries when our understanding is such that religious belief is gone… What then? <

Without religion – would there be more or less deaths caused by “My God is the One True God” conflicts? And with the separatism that was allowed to and encouraged to flourish for 400 centuries abandoned, would the world be a worse place to inhabit?

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billymodo 33 minutes ago

I love the idea of “Darwins Freind” preaching this way when Historically anyone with anything to do with the Dunce Darwin turned out to be a mass murderer, Francis Galton (CD’s Cousin) introduced social Darwinism and an international Eugenics program. His Student Eugen Fischer ran the First German Death camp when Hitler was only six. Later he designed the Nazi death camps after perfecting Cyclon B on 15,000 mental patients. Galton’s friend Margret Sanger (planned parenthood) Sterilized millions

To this day you’ll find no one who has actually read Darwins seminal work but if they did they would discover that it was NOT a book about evolution. It was a book about Malthusian Eugenics or how to breed a better Human. The title gives it away “On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life”.

Albert Binet developed IQ tests which were introduced into the US in 1906 and started the massive sterilizations of the subnormal!

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McAfee: Milionário e Acadêmico com Harem de Sete Mulheres em Mansão de Belize Envolvido em Assassinato

quinta-feira, dezembro 6th, 2012
McAfee e a espetacular visão da praia desde sua propriedade em Belize

McAfee e a espetacular visão da praia desde sua propriedade em Belize

A noticia tornou-se as principais manchetes porque é bizarra e envolve um multi-milionario famoso. As poucas informações no noticiario não me autorizam a deduzir conclusões, porem são indicativas de como êste moderno sistema social e a cultura acadêmica está produzindo inimigos da Humanidade. Um profissional, ” expert” no mundo da computação, desenvolveu um programa anti-virus ( o McAfee), vendeu muito, arrecadou milhões, tornando-se mais um moderno milionario. As noticias agora informam que êle, com 64 anos,  tem uma mansão com esplendida vista para o mar (veja foto/vídeo abaixo) no paraiso chamado Belize, vive ali com sete namoradas (sim, sete, um verdadeiro harem!) cujas idades vai dos 19 aos 23 anos. Um idoso com um harem de jovens, uma para cada dia da semana. Em seu quintal tinha 11 cachorros, grandes, de raça assasssina. Moradores locais disseram que em Abril, a policia do pequeno país da América Central fêz uma busca de apreensão na casa do milionario em busca de armas e drogas. Encontraram ambas mas as armas eram legais e as drogas tambem, pelas leis do país. Dizem que o milionario tinha aquelas drogas que funcionavam como Viagra para mulheres.  Se isso for verdade penso que significa que ele gostava de deixar as mulheres “taradas”… para animar um velho de 64 anos deseperado por prazeres carnais.  E isto indica que um homem viveu a vida apenas materialmente sem ter desenvolvido a sua mente, para o lado da religiosidade cósmica, pois quem faz isso, quando chega na velhice despreza estes instintos animalescos, concentrado que está em suas sempre crescentes necessidades intelectuais. Que tipo de educação êste milionario recebeu da familia e das escolas? Um tipo que mantem e realça o animalismo materialista.

( Links para as noticias: http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/18/world/americas/belize-mcafee-enclave/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/world/americas/mcafee-arrest/?hpt=hp_t2

Acontece que na mansão vizinha morava outro milionario, enriquecido no setor de construtoras, Mr. Greg Faull, os dois vizinhos viviam discutindo porque o Sr.  Faull reclamava dos fortes latidos e presença de cães perigosos. Então a poucos dias atrás apareceram 4 cachorros babando, se contorcendo, por envenenamento. O Mr. McAfee pegou um revolver e atirou na cabeça de cada cão, “para minimizar o sofrimento dêles”. Mr. McAffe avisou a policia do envenenamento. Em seguida o Sr Faull foi encontrado morto, baleado, dentro de sua casa. O Sr. McAffee foi viajar sem deixar endereço com as namoradas, mas agora foi descoberto que ele entrou na Guatemala escondido, ilegalmente,  e estava na casa de parentes de uma de suas namoradas. Mesmo sendo procurado pela policia para responder perguntas sobre a morte do vizinho, Mr.McAfee continuou ativo pondo mensagens em seu blog, dizendo por exemplo que havia saído da casa porque não queria ser molestado pela policia de Belize e que essa policia havia requerido propina para deixa-lo livre ( talvez tenham encontrado drogas e armas ilegais quando lé estiveram? Em se tratando de policia do terceiro mundo isso não seria surpresa…), enquanto afirma que ele nada sabe da morte do vizinho.

Aí está um resumo apressado do que lí, mas o que me interessa aqui é que essa história revela um mundo que pouco conhecemos, o mundo dos milionarios e formados nas grandes universidades do primeiro mundo, e como se comportam, o que eles tem em sua cabeça, quais os seus valores morais, humanos, etc. Estas revelações serão então comparadas com o tipo de milionario que a cosmovisão sugere como ideal para a Humanidade. E por outro lado, a cosmovisão sugere como seria o tipo de povo ideal que saberia como tratar estes milionarios, de acordo com seus comportamentos. Infelizmente, aqui, nêste caso, tanto o milionario quanto o resto do mundo, ou seja, todo e qualquer outro ser humano, seja rico, pobre ou branco, desde que todos tem responsabilidade no resultado final que é o estado atual da Humanidade, todos, estão errados, inclusive eu quando não assumo uma atitude mais radical contra todos os errados. E assim  deduzo pesaroso que desse jeito nada nos salvará de dias piores no futuro, uma péssima herança que deixaremos para nossas próximas gerações.

Um homem que mantem um cão raivoso em casa é inimigo da Humanidade, porque o cão pode ferir ou matar alguem. Não aceito nenhuma justificativa: tudo o que seja ameaça para qualquer ser humano não pode existir entre humanos. O argumento usual aqui é que, sendo uma casa rica, é visada por bandidos, e os cães servem para proteger os moradores. Mas se existem bandidos que agridem por dinheiro é porque existem pobres abaixo do nivel de classe média, e se existe pessoas abaixo do nivel de classe média está totalmente errado quem desperdiça recursos naturais e energia do trabalho humano com os supérfluos visiveis em uma mansão. Vejo este milionario como um predador e os bandidos como filhos de ovelhas passivas, que mutaram e não querem ser mais ovelhas, querem ser predadores tambem. Entao é cobra engolindo cobra. Que se engulam uns aos outros, o meu dinheiro é que não permito seja gasto para pagar salarios de homens armados e fardados como policias para proteger um predador. That’s it. Portanto todos nós temos que reunir, debater e encontrar uma maneira de mudar a administração da policia que é paga com nosso dinheiro. Se 6estes milionarios querem serem protegidos, que pageum seus seguranças. E a outra coisa que temos de atuar é denunciar na policia e exigir que seja retirado qualquer cão perigoso em qualquer residência urbana.

Outro fator negativo e revoltante é “as sete namoradas do Sr. McAfee”. Se um homem tem sete mulheres, vai deixar seis homens sem mulheres. Claro. A espécie sempre foi dividida mais ou menos no meio, metade homens, metade mulheres. Ou é um para cada um, ou ninguem para ninguem, não existe casamento e familia nuclear. That’s it. Se voce acha que estou erradoe  é homem, então, por favor, esteja a vontade, assuma seu cargo de homem sem mulher nenhuma. E se é nulher dizendo que estou errado, então por fasvor, pegue sua trouxa, vá ser concubina de um milionario, mas sabendo que só vai ser aceita lé enquanto for jovem e bonita. E depois quando sair de mão abanando, mais velha, sem atrativos fisicos, sem uma profissão bem remunerada e util à sociedade, não venha cá fora pedir ajuda a ninguem, principalmente a homens, a quem desprezastes quando tinhas algo para oferecer.

E o que dizer destas sete mulheres? Pistoleiras, corruptas. Claro que nenhuma mulher de 19 anos iria escol.her um velho de 64 anos por amor.  Mas porque existem mulheres que fazem isso? Pobreza. Nasceram de pais pobres, cujo motivos de pobreza inclue o mau comportamento de milionarios ao desviarem um dinheiro que deveria ir para o justo pagamento do trabalho dos pais delas para adornar suas mansões com supérfluos. baixos salarios, continuidade da escravidão, e o dinheiro daí expropriado vampiricamente vai para poços sem fundo da gula animalesca. Tudo errado. E os pais pobres são super errados porque geraram filhos sem ter as condições financeiras necessarias para tal, portanto são até piores que assassinos, pois é melhor para um ser humano não nascer do que nascer fadado a ser escravo. Ao menos duas das namoradas vieram da América Latina, que está sendo um curral de geração de escravos para o primeiro mundo, principalmente porque as igrejas evangélicas e católicas incentivam esta procriação sem aplicar os recursos cientificos.  Todos errados. O animalismo ainda é a psicologia que impera na cabeça dos humanos e os dirige em seus comportamentos prejudiciais aos próprios humanos impedindo o esforços  em se construir a Humanidade ideal para todos.

Mas ainda o que muito entristece é constatar que o Sr. McAfee foi educado por uma universidade moderna. Um homem que prefere, que gosta mais, de animais raivosos que humanos. Que pega uma arma e atira na cabeça de cães. Que desperdiça economia da Humanidade em supérfluos. Que termina a vida vivendo como nababo, louco para aproveitar todos os prazeres anumalescos antes de morrer. Isto quer dizer que ele nem considera as religiões como a cristã, que claramente prega que exista vida após a morte, que exista inferno, e que êsse comportamento conduz uma pessoa ao inferno. Isso quer dizer que a educação na universidade produz essa mentalidade, a qual me parece outro tipo de religião, denominada “ateísmo”. Me parece que essa mentalidade tambem é construida pelos valores equivocados que pessoas animalizadas extraem da teoria darwinista da evoução, que reina nas universidades. Sou contra êsse tipo de educação. Não que eu seja a favor das baboseiras pregadas pelas religiões sem evidencias, não que eu tenha certeza se existe ou não vida após a morte, e não porque eu tenho certeza que não existe inferno. E não que eu ponha em duvida o processo natural da evolução. Sou contra porque elegí como cosmovisão de mundo mais aceitável a cosmovisão da Matrix/DNA e ela sugere que:

” A pura observação do mundo – e nêle, da Humanidade – aqui e agora, nos transmite a idéia que a Natureza, e seu processo de evolução, está no caminho de desenvolver o cérebro humano para que este seja um instrumento ideal para então desenvolver  a forma que está emergindo agora, a auto-consciencia. A Matrix/DNA sugere que esta biosfera e os humanos são produtos do caos que foi produzido pela degeneração entrópica do sistema natural onde a biosfera e nós emergimos, e dentro do qual existimos: esta galaxia. E esta galaxia é um sistema fechado em si mesmo. Isto significa que o sistema optou pelo caminho do egocêntrico do extremo egoismo. E sendo nossa ancestral, dela herdamos esse egoismo na forma dos genes egoistas. Mas desse caos houve uma mutação e surgimos como sistemas abertos, o que é uma oportunidade para corrigir a falha original, o pecado que derrubou do céu a nossa ancestral fazendo-a rastejar aqui na Terra como formas vivas. Essa oportunidade de correção consiste em fazer com que o grande pecado seja dividido em 7 bilhões de frações, de pequeninos pecados, para que cada um veja nos outros os 6 e tantos bilhões de fraçies do pecado original, os quais de alguma maneira o vão agredir, e assim ele aprende a detesta-los e em fazendo isso, ele aprende o mal que é o grande pecado que ele traz em si mesmo. No final dos conflitos, lutas e guerras entre entes 7 bilhões de pecados, resultará a cura total, um ser unico que detesta este tipo de pecado, o de ser sistema fechado em si mesmo, isolando-se do mundo após abocanhar tudo o que puder para si e viver eternamente no seu paraíso cercado, tornando-se assim uma porta fechada para a evolução, estancando a evolução nessa forma humana, quie é provisória. E isto impediria a transcendencia para a próxima forma. A qual deve ser uma forma mais conciência, mais energia, mais luz, que ôsso e carne, e deverá surgir depurada do pecado dos nossos ancestrais astronomicos. Enfim, o meu objetivo que é extraído desta cosmovisão, é o mesmo objetivo da Natureza, ou até mesmo de algum deus que por trás dela se esconda. Meu objetivo é trabalhar e atuar duro mas sem acreditar nessa cosmovisão de um simples  humano, pois acreditar é a base dos radicalismos, fundamentalismos, dos desejos de impor suas ideologias sôbre outros. trabalhar e atuar socialmente para ajudar o nascimento da auto-consciencia depurada do egoísmo. Sispeito que se conseguir-mos isso, nas seguintes gerações, tõda a Humanidade será mais feliz, sem excessão de raça, côr, classe social, religião, ideologia, etc.

E esta noticia apenas relembra que tenho muito trabalho pela frente.

Porque nenhum animal tem rodas como pés? Veja vídeo e explicação da Matrix/DNA

quarta-feira, dezembro 5th, 2012
Youtube:

Why Don’t Any Animals Have Wheels?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAGEOKAG0zw

There are no animals with wheels because nature has no previous information for, while information for all kinds of animals locomotion were existing since 10 billions years ago, in the sky. The cellular flagellum is the result of several old mechanisms put altogether into new arrangement. You can see these mechanisms working in our galaxy, exactly where each part came from in this picture:

The Cellular ATP Motor came from the Galaxies’ Rotational Motor?! – Google it

TheMatrixDNA 1 second ago

É Natal…

quarta-feira, dezembro 5th, 2012
Click na imagem,… e sonhe,… não é pecado sonhar…  É Natal… é Natal… Ping ling down…é natal…é natal… pong long ding…É Natal... é Natal... Ping ling down...é natal...é natal... pong long ding...

É Natal... é Natal... Ping ling down...é natal...é natal... pong long ding...

Sentindo-se Mal na Sociedade, Querendo algo Nôvo, Diferente? Que tal isto?

quarta-feira, dezembro 5th, 2012

Interessante post no facebook e nossa sugestão:

Link: (click) Liberte-se do Sistema


‎”Nós bebemos muito, fumamos muito, gastamos sem consciência, rimos pouco, dirigimos muito rápido, ficamos muito brabos, ficamos acordados até tarde, acordamos muito cansados, lemos pouco e assistimos muita TV.
Aumentamos as nossas posses, mas diminuímos os nossos valores.
Falamos muito, pensamos pouco. Aprendemos à sobreviver bem, mas não à viver bem.
Adicionamos anos a vida, mas não vida aos anos.
– George Carlin (1937 – 2008)

A Cosmovisão da Matrix/DNA diz:

Vivo entre New York e selva amazônica, tremendo contraste, que me tem levado a interessantes pensamentos. Isto me levou à uma visão do mundo que nunca ninguem têve igual, que está num website, A Universal Matrix/DNA dos Sistemas Naturais e Ciclos Vitais. O que está acontecendo conosco é evidencia de que caímos nas engrenagens de uma máquina não-natural, não-boplógica, e porque? Fomos criados por uma biosfera caótica cujo caos é o resultado da entropia atacando o sistema astronomico ao qual a terra pertence. Este sistema é mecânico, descrito pela mecânica Newtoniana e suas particulas aqui tendem a reproduzi-lo, de maneira que a biosfera será uma máquina e nós, meras peças. O sistema social é mera projeção do sistema criador, que é fechado em si mesmo, como extrema expressão do egoísmo, do qual herdamos o selfish gene. Tudo nos conduz a um sistema tipo Admiravel Mundo Novo sob a rainha grande Mother, como são as sociedades de abelhas e formigas. Mas temos uma oportunidade de escapar deste destino e manter a mente livre para evoluir pelo Cosmos, porque o Universo é composto de hardware e software, e o software (alma universal) está tambem aqui disponivel como está o hardware astronomico. É preciso procurar ter consciencia das nossas origens, da nossa situação para planejar-mos um melhor destino. A Matrix/DNA nasceu na selva amazônica, fora do sistema, talvez seja essa alma universal tentando nos salvar.

Não existe uma teoria aceitável sôbre a formação do Sistema Solar: Falhas da Teoria Nebular

quarta-feira, dezembro 5th, 2012

Baseado no artigo ( from Creation Ministries International) :

Solar system origin: Nebular hypothesis

by Jonathan Sarfati

creation.­com/­nebular-­hypothesis

Sistema Solar Como era no Inicio

Sistema Solar Como era no Inicio

Sistema Solar Como É Hoje

Sistema Solar Como É Hoje

O artigo é tendencioso – feito por quem tem prévias intenções de defender a fé no criacionismo – portanto não é Ciência Pura. Mas seus argumentos são racionais e baseados em aparente evidências, e arrola vários documentos na lista final, de astronomos profissionais. Preciso agora procurar o contrta-artigo, feito poe defensores da teoria nebular, comentando cada argumento dêste artigo.

O assunto interessa à Matrix/DNA – apesar de que consideramos origens cosmológicas um assunto de relevancia secindária porque estamos mais dedicados a procurar soluções aqui e agora – porque a anatomia comparada nos forçou a calcular modêlos cosmológicos para entender processos e mecanismos naturais atuantes aqui e agora. A contra gôsto tive que desviar tempo da observação da atmo-biosfera na selva amazônica e levantar mais a cabeça e os olhos para fitar a exuberante noite estrelada só possível de ser vista através do ar límpido da selva, pois os principios das fôrças que tentava entender vinham de lá tambem. Mas foi graças a esta obrigação que cheguei á fórmula de sistema natural fechado perfeito e agora tenho que continuar essa busca de conhecimento destas origens longinquas para saber se a fórmula realmente existe ou não.

A formação do sistema solar ainda é um problema não-resolvido pela Matrix/DNA que sugere um modêlo racional para formação de sistemas estelares. Então porque o solar é um problema? Porque a fórmula sugere que existem dois métodos para formação de galaxias e/ou sistemas estelares, assim como há dois métodos para formação de sistemas celulares. Existiu o primeiro método que foi aplicado na formação da primeira célula original e existe o segundo método que é a mera replicação das células existentes. Então não sei se o sistema solar ainda é reultado do primeiro método ou do segundo. Vale lembrar que sistemas estelares, em relação à galaxias, correpondem a átomos, em relação à células. Então quando tiver tempo vou voltar à Teoria da Matrix/DNA na parte em que ela diz: uma nebulosa é composta de átomos, átomos são os mais influentes elementos numa nebulosa disforme, é o mais evoluido design de sistema, portanto, se essa nebulosa for dirigida a se tornar um sistema ela mesma, o design atômico modelará sua formação e o resultado final será o design atômico com mutações devido ao novo ambiente de formação e estas mutações delinearão um sistema que seja àza imagem e semlhança do design atômico. Então para calcular como uma nebulosa oriunda da morte de uma estrela anterior, mesmo que ela continha seu sistema planetario, formou outro sistema estelar, devemos nos basear em como é formado um sistema atômico. parece muito diferente, mas pela lógica, não dever ser tanto.