Archive for maio 11th, 2017

Origem da Vida: Nova Descoberta discute: Fundo de Oceanos ou Lagos na Superficie?

quinta-feira, maio 11th, 2017

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Baseado no artigo ( ver meus comentarios postados no artigo e copiados abaixo):

Phys.ORG

Oldest evidence of life on land found in 3.48-billion-year-old Australian rocks

May 9, 2017

https://phys.org/news/2017-05-oldest-evidence-life-billion-year-old-australian.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter

Fossil evidence of early life has been discovered by UNSW scientists in 3.48 billion year old hot spring deposits in the Pilbara of Western Australia – pushing back by 3 billion years the earliest known existence of inhabited terrestrial hot springs on Earth.

Previously, the world’s oldest evidence for microbial on land came from 2.7- 2.9 billion year old deposits in South Africa containing organic matter-rich ancient soils.

“Our exciting findings don’t just extend back the record of life living in by 3 billion years, they indicate that life was inhabiting the land much earlier than previously thought, by up to about 580 million years,” says study first author, UNSW PhD candidate, Tara Djokic.

“This may have implications for an origin of life in freshwater hot springs on land, rather than the more widely discussed idea that life developed in the ocean and adapted to land later.”

Scientists are considering two hypotheses regarding the origin of life. Either that it began in deep sea hydrothermal vents, or alternatively that it began on land in a version of Charles Darwin’s “warm little pond”. ( read the article, link above)

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Morelli  – posted 5/9/2017
The land surface hypothesis is more plausible for life’s origins than the deep oceans, because abiogenesis needed sun’s energy. There are seeds for life everywhere inside galaxies because these seeds are galaxies’ genome. The destiny of any seed is the quality of the place it falls. But there is a big difference between biological systems and other systems non-carbon based. It is possible other kinds of “life” based on every element which the atomic number be multiple of seven in the periodic table, because these elements repeats all properties of carbon. (These are suggestions from Matrix/DNA Theory)
starfart – 5/9/2017
This looks like a marvelous find. I have no doubts that the materials examined exhibit good evidence for microbial life in the surface hot spring setting. However, I don’t see why this finding should dismiss seafloor hydrothermal vents as a potential setting for the origin of life. Its a bit puzzling that evaporate deposits on surface hot springs are stressed as a ‘concentrator’ of complex biogenic material as if undersea hydrothermal precipitate processes aren’t capable of doing that as well. In the end, though, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if it turns out that either or both settings figured prominently in the origin of life. This isn’t an either-or dichotomy. Both hydrothermal vents and surface hot springs have the same important suite of properties for biogenesis…and they were no doubt equally ubiquitous on the early Earth
Morelli – 5/9/2017

“Both hydrothermal vents and surface hot springs have the same important suite of properties for biogenesis…and they were no doubt equally ubiquitous on the early Earth.”

Maybe you have found the exactly point. Matrix/DNA Theory has suggested that the first cell system ( aka, living thing) needed 50% of a planet’s nucleus energy and 50% of a star energy. The planet’s energy is able to build the primordial molecules and some organelles ( less mitochondria and chloroplasts) and no DNA, only RNA. The last elements are build with the concourse of a star energy. Than, it is possible that life began at thermal vents but was finished at land surface.
We are based on our theoretical model of a seed for life, which is a kind of astronomical genome at microscopic level.

 

 

Sri Prem Baba, Filosofia Oriental e Paralelos com Matrix/DNA

quinta-feira, maio 11th, 2017

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Um brasileiro foi aos monges orientais aprender sua filosofia e voltou como um guru com sugestões interessantes. Ele tem muitos videos em português e algo interessante é o paralelo entre o seu tipico linguajar e assuntos que tratamos dentro da filosofia naturalista. Meu comentário abaixo é um exemplo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtkB5WQ1QkA

Como sair da repetição do padrão destrutivo?/How to stop repeating a destructive pattern?

Louis Charles Morelli Louis Charles Morelli – 5/11/2017

Creio que “vícios” é outro nome para “instintos”, herdados pelos nossos corpos carnais dos ancestrais animais. Os “eus inferiores” são nossas formas humanas anteriores, nossas ancestrais formas animais, porem não para ai, pois galaxias e átomos também são nossos ancestrais. Sera’ difícil para religiosos que creem ter sido o corpo humano ( não apenas a auto-consciência) criado por magica de algum Deus sobrenatural aceitar, entender e combater estes vícios/instintos. estes instintos são naturais, estão registrados em nossa genética a qual modelou nossa psique. Então, por exemplo, o individuo que expressa fortemente a tendencia para predador de humanos ( os escravagistas, os “patroes”, etc.) tem ainda na psique a forma dos caninos e sua grande batalha sera’  fazer encolher estes caninos pois enquanto existirem, ele não poderá deixar de ser como o leão, dependente da posse de território cada vez maior e do maior numero de presas/ovelhas possível. Enquanto aqueles que expressam o instinto de presa/ovelha possuem na psique a baba fraca e chorosa que nunca os permite serem mais fortes e acreditarem em possibilidades de vitorias na luta pela competição materialista. Quanto a auto-consciência creio que ela vem de outra linhagem evolucionaria, que apenas dormia nas nossas formas ancestrais anteriores, assim como a consciência herdada e inscrita na genética dos pais dormem na formação inicial do feto e só vai se expressar no embrião quase pronto a nascer. Enquanto os instintos dominam, a consciência não atua, e nem pode iniciar a formação de um intelecto. No fundo, os gurus orientais se referem `a mesma coisa que a ciência moderna, porem usam metáforas, num linguajar mais afetado pela mistica, espiritualidade, que talvez de fato exista e a ciência vai descobri-la mais tarde também.