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Desconstruindo a Cultura Predadora Milenar Virtual – a Matrix Animalesca

domingo, outubro 19th, 2014

Os leões ficam preguiçosamente deitados ao sol no alto da colina, assistindo o rebanho de ovelhas lá embaixo, pastando dia e noites, sem qualquer outra atividade lógica, racional. As ovelhas estão trabalhando, transformando grama em carne suculenta. Quando os leões precisam, basta-lhes descer a colina e fazer a colheita do trabalho das ovelhas. Enquanto isso, predadores de porte médio, como os lobos, tambem espreitam para suprimir dos leões a sua parte do labor das ovelhas e vivem parasitando no meio dos dois extremos. Esta é a realidade do mundo no tocante a esta biosfera terrestre, um quadro corrupto e monstruoso que, segundo a maioria das ovelhas acreditam, teria sido criado por um deus bondoso… ou ao menos, ele teria condenado todos num suposto anterior paraíso por terem comido uma maçã.

Vinda do reino animal, a espécie humana imita fielmente as regras da selva, entre seus antepassados animais, criando estes sistemas sociais – seja capitalista, comunista, feudalista, etc. – que são sempre divididos entre grandes predadores ( a classe A), médio predadores ( ( a classe média), e o rebanho ( a classe pobre de trabalhadores rotineiros, escravos dóceis, apáticos e inativos socialmente, 95% da população).

Me admira como é que uma pessoa levanta cedo todo dia ainda estando cansado e com sono, sai apressadamente tocado pelo relógio em direção à fábrica, à construção, ao serviço sujo e pesado, ou mesmo ao banco, á loja, e ali passa o dia todo muitas vezes sem ver a luz do dia, e depois retorna ao entardecer, para passar o resto do tempo enjaulado em um caixote chamado apartamento! E assim se reproduzem, vivem a vida toda, e morrem! Seus filhos e depois os netos, vão repetir o mesmo roteiro, e se a Natureza deixasse, assim iriam por toda a eternidade. Totalmente sem sentido coerente! Na selva, os macacos descem das arvores completamente descansados, no solo se espreguiçam, observam a selva ao redor,  o Sol, e tem a liberdade de escolha do que fazer de seu dia… se vai para o norte, para o sul, para o rio ou para a montanha. O humano, 95% da população, não tem nenhuma liberdade de escolher o que fazer de cada novo dia. E depois dizem que os humanos-rebanho são mais inteligentes que macacos!

Mas porque são assim totalmente irracionais? Está quase certo que ovelhas não tem qualquer atributo físico que lhes dê alguma força para se defenderem de um leão. Ovelhas não tem garras, dentes enormes, etc.. Mas se fossem inteligentes e principalmente, menos egocentristas, com alguma tendencia a querer somar forças com suas semelhantes, encontrariam uma maneira de combater e até eliminar a espécie de leões, pois são cem vezes em maior numero. A grande questão é porque humanos com um cérebro mais complexo continuam a imitar o mesmo comportamento irracional das ovelhas. Pois se quisessem, qualquer classe “c” de qualquer pais, reuniria poder para se constituir eles, no maior e único exercito do pais. Porque não querem? Qual a força paralisante, hipnótica existe por traz da pratica da escravidão moderna?
Bem, os grandes predadores humanos, ao contrario dos grandes predadores na selva, usam algumas propriedades do cérebro mais complexo. Tendem mais a constituírem acordos, sociedades entre si para se repartirem territórios e ovelhas, ao invés de se guerrearem e se matarem disputando a mesma presa. Com isso, em 5 ou 10.000 anos, desenvolveram uma estratégia muito eficaz de controle e manipulação para que as ovelhas produzam carne fresca cada vez mais e melhor. Essa estratégia chama-se “a cultura de um povo”, cujas principais armas são as religiões, a mídia televisiva, a ciência e a politica. Esta a força paralisante e hipnótica controlando os 95% dos humanos. Trata-se primeiro de criar interpretações sobre todos e quaisquer fenômenos naturais, fatos do mundo real e incutirem estas interpretações falsas como verdades absolutas nos cérebros das ovelhas. Educação escolar social e familiar desde o berço, condicionamento mental. Assim os predadores repartem territórios cada qual se escondendo sob marcas e se parecem com um polvo negro com muitos tentáculos manipulando cada aspecto da vida do rebanho:


Mas a Natureza tem mostrado que ela tem um propósito, um objetivo, ao aplicar a evolução nesta biosfera.Este objetivo é agora, melhorar o cérebro humano, desenvolvendo os seus atuais sensores e expressando novos ainda em estado latente, tornando o cérebro o ovo e placenta ideal para a gestação da nova e superior forma de sistema natural que Ela está trazendo para cá, chamado de “auto-consciência”. O qual está totalmente contra o objetivo dos grandes predadores. A batalha começa, a guerra é declarada pela Natureza. Ou Ela vence ou Ela descarta a espécie inteira e retorna ao reino dos macacos buscando outro tipo pelo qual recomeçar Seu intento.
A forma de cidades, de tecnologia, de instituições como família nuclear, de sistema politico e militar com um núcleo e periferias, está tudo errado, em relação ao que a Natureza quer. O humano ocupando 8 ou mais das melhores horas do dia em atividades rotineiras estupidificantes que impedem a absorção das certas e verdadeiras informações, desviando o projeto de melhor cérebro, terá que ser mudado, por bem ou por mal.
O humano que tem inteligencia suficiente para perceber o que está acontecendo sente necessidade de atuar urgente para facilitar o trabalho da Natureza, antes que esta resolva eliminar a espécie inteira. Sempre existe alguma possibilidade de atuar, por minima influencia que possa causar, pois tambem, sem fazer algo a vida não tem sentido, pois estar-se á conformado com a vinda do futuro zero. Eu particularmente procuro estas possibilidades de atuar na pratica. Lanço na Internet movimentos por exemplo, “Abaixo os bancos privados”, “Leis que dividam igualmente a terra entre entre todos os humanos”, “Vença o apelo sexual, principal arma usada pelos grandes predadores para mante-lo no trabalho escravo”, e etc. Faço minha parte tentando dar o salto inicial, mesmo que caia no vazio, mas persistindo até o ultimo suspiro. Quando houve oportunidade atuei com energia inclusive me defendendo à mão armada na selva e ali inciei escolas, hospitais, cidades, cooperativas, etc. Me retraí quando as forças contrarias estavam prestes a me eliminar, mas uma retirada estratégica para retornar em outro lugar. Ao lado da atividade pratica voltada á realidade social, existe a atividade que visa atingir o cerne do cérebro possuído, condicionado. isto se faz pela propagação das interpretações verdadeiras dos mesmos fenômenos naturais e dados do mundo real que foram interpretados falsamente. para isso criamos a visão de mundo chamada de “Matrix/DNA”. E para entender melhor tudo isso é bom tambem ler os links abaixo de pessoas que estão buscando, no mesmo caminho.

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Sites bom para pesquisar/reler:

Ditadura social científica e psicológica. Pra sair da “CAIXA”…!!!

http://rmorais76.blogspot.com/2014/09/ditadura-social-cientifica-e.html

Ver os comentarios neste artigo grande quantidade de links para videos e autores como Icke, Maxwell, etc., denunciando a cultura dominante. 

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Symbolic Literacy

http://www.taroscopes.com/highwindowsarticles/symbolicliteracy2.html

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E um comentario destinado ao blog rmorais não publicado por excesso de caracteres: 

Muito bom texto, informativo. Permita-me postar aqui meus dois centavos de opinião. Sou autor de uma nova visão de mundo, chamada “A Matrix/DNA Universal dos Sistemas Naturais e Ciclos Vitais”, a qual traz uma perspectiva diferente para o tema do texto. Em todos os povos as sociedades tem se organizado no modelo de sistemas, com nucleo e periferia, ou seja, ricos e pobres. Porque este mesmo modelo em todas as épocas e diferentes regiões?! Se ele significa a felicidade total de 1%, a felicidade média de 4% e a infelicidade de 95%?! Porque não um tipo de organização social que não seja no modelo de sistemas, sem nucleo e periferia, que tenha como ponto de partida a felicidade repartida igualitariamente?

Porque todos tiveram o mesmo ancestral primitivo comum, o qual foi produzido pela biosfera terrestre que representa a face caótica da Natureza apenas, e não a outra face, da ordem. Quem duvidar que esta biosfera é produto do caos, que vá experimentar as origens dela no ambiente selvagem das florestas, dos desertos ou das profundidades marítimas. A organização social humana imita fielmente as regras da selva, dividida entre grandes predadores ( a classe A), os médios predadores e as presas ( a classe dos trabalhadores escravizados). Toda essa cultura de dominação foi desenvolvida ao longo de 10 ou 15 mil anos, pelos grandes predadores, para manter e melhorar suas colheitas do labor das suas ovelhas.
É preciso entender o sistema astronomico que gerou esta biosfera, antes de entender o humano como atual produto final. Ele é descrito melhor pela mecânica Newtoniana porque funciona como uma maquina, perfeita. Antes de sermos gerados pelo pó das estrelas, fomos ( ao menos no tocante aos nossos corpos materiais) gerados pelo tipo de organização social em sistemas, das estrelas.

Mas se os astros se alinham em sistemas que estão no estado de ordem, porque a biosfera começou pelo estado de caos? Por que não existe nada eterno neste Universo, tudo é atacado pela degeneração medida pela entropia. Mas deste estado de caos sairá o fluxo de uma ordem… reproduzindo o sistema astronomico. O Admiravel Mundo Novo de Aldous Huxley, governado pelo Big Brother de Orwell. As sociedades de insetos como formigas e abelhas foram primeiro neste caminho, com a diferença de que, ao invés do Big Brother, elas tem a Big Mother, ou a Grande Rainha. Porque no centro do sistema astronomico se aloja a Big Mother, como se pode ver no modelo teórico de sistemas astronômicos no meu website.

Se deixar-mos o vento nos levar naturalmente, o destino está determinado: seremos meras peças de uma maquina reproduzindo fielmente o estado organizacional do mundo material, natural, que nos criou e ainda nos envolve por todos os lados: este sistema solar e este sistema galáctico.

Mas é no momento de transição da reprodução que pode ocorrer mutações que permite a entrada de elementos novos, externos, na formação da nova cria. E aconteceu que aqui entrou informações nunca antes conhecidas por esta galaxia: informações sobre um tipo de arquitetura vinda do alem das galaxias, denominada “auto-consciencia”. Esta pode mudar o destino da cria, o nosso destino, se formos acessível assimilando mais destas informações flutuando no ar. Agora o futuro é da livre escolha da humanidade: ou ser um sistema fechado em si mesmo como a maquina galáctica, ou ser um sistema aberto para aventurar-se no Cosmos, e crescer sempre.

O que deve fazer já os que preferem esta teoria do mundo, do significado das existencias? Primeiro de tudo, atingir o cerne do cérebro manipulado da grande massa, extraindo dali as falsas informações sobre as quais foi construída essa cultura. Não existe outra maneira de destruir uma falsa informação senão apresentando a informação verdadeira e provando-a, fatualmente, cientificamente. Informação verdadeira só pode referir-se a fatos reais, fenômenos e eventos naturais, e não na discussão entre criações imaginarias das teorias, ideologias, religiões, etc. A cultura dominante está totalmente baseada nas interpretações falsas de todos os fenômenos e eventos naturais que compõem a História.É preciso então retornar aos fenomenos e eventos naturais para observa-los detidamente, identificar suas interações com o todo, extrair a nova interpretação e testa-la contra os demais fatos convergentes. E então divulga-la incansavelmente ao publico condicionado. Séculos depois de Copérnico e milhões de imagens do sistema solar, ainda existem os que acreditam na falsa Terra como centro do mundo tal como apregoado pela cultura da dominação, mas a maioria não resistiu ao confronto com a realidade.

A visão de mundo pela Matrix/DNA está fazendo justamente isto. Todo dia focaliza um novo e diferente fenômeno ou evento natural e reinterpreta-o, divulgando esta reinterpretação. Assim acredito que vamos desmascarando esta “matrix virtual” criada e alimentada pelos humanos que ainda mantem o instinto animalesco subjugando o intelecto, seja na forma de predadores ou de presas. Vindo por caminhos diferentes, as técnicas dos nossos blogs parecem ter entrado no mesmo barco…Portanto… welcome!

Copy of CosmoQuestX Thread: Lição de Como Abordar Estes “Pseudo-Cientistas”: Avisar que não isto não é Ciencia, não falar da Matrix/DNA a não ser quando perguntado, mas fazer-lhes perguntas sempre

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    Thousands of Evidences Against The Mainstream Model Supports a Different Model

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    Do you think is it possible that the modern Cosmos’ world view can be revolutionized like that when the heliocentric world view came upon the geocentric world view? I am asking it because there is a rational theoretical Cosmos’ model, unknown by you, suggesting that reality is very different than we are thinking. For instance, while we think that stars are born, they are dying, and vice-versa. Wait: remember that only proved known facts can debunk this hypothesis, do not deny it supported only upon the believed concepts built by the current theoretical model.

    The author is not scientist neither amador astronomer and never thought about thinking out the box in relation to the mainstream model. But, 30 years ago and spending 7 years studying the natural systems that composes the Amazon jungle total biosphere, he found that explanations about the origins of each system must comes from the astronomical system surrounding Earth. That’s the cause he searched data from Astronomy, and concluded that the modern Nebular or Standard Theory must be not complete. Trying to complete it for getting a model able to create this biosphere, he built which is called “The Universal Matrix/DNA of All Natural Systems and Life’s Cycles”. It includes new and very different models for atomic and astronomical systems.

    Since that Astronomy, quantum theory, were not his business, and he is a skeptical naturalist philosopher, he tried to forget his models, but, by the last 30 years, the bombardment of news, data, images, every day remembering the predictions of his model, made him to search scrutiny and testings, by the academic teams. Due its isolation at the jungle or even in New York ( he is American citizen) never reached someone for talking about. Here, at CosmoQuestX, appears to be a great opportunity.

    There are thousands of evidences for this new model, collected at his unknown website, the unique source of divulgation. So, I don’t know which I will bring here first for beginning a discussion. I will try only one by know, referring the picture attached here.

    How Nature – the state of the world, the state of the Solar and Milk Way systems – at 4 billion years ago, built every properties of biological systems at Earth surface? Metabolism, life’s cycle, sexual reproduction, genetic code, etc.,? The Matrix/DNA model is a unique astronomical model that shows where all these biological properties were hidden as potential natural forces and elements inside the Solar and galactic systems. I know you will not accept and grasp this idea, but, the unique rational and scientific thinking way is pointing out one detail of this biosphere at a time, asking here for me pointing out the principle or primordial force at the astronomical model. For beginning to understand what I am talking about, the picture attached here is about the primordial process, forces and elements contained inside the building block of all astronomical systems, 4 billion years ago, that evolved into the modern human sexual reproductive system.

    Is there someone interested in this issue? I will be grateful… Cheers for everybody here…

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    What is your theory? Do you have any mathematical models?

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    ( Thanks for remembering me how works the mainstream mindset – it is product of brains hard-wired by a millenary culture based on a specific logistic called Mathematics. If you are interested to know how works brains hard-wired by other life’s experiences – like the rules of salvage jungle and crude Nature plus absorption of scientific data coming from the civilization – here you will have an opportunity. But, please, does not believe that these brains are not worth to know because you have seen no technological and scientific production. This world view is suggesting many new ways for producing new technology. And I think yours quickly question was due the attached picture on my post did not worked, but I have solved it. Please, go back to the first post for seeing the kind of models I have applied.)

    Mathematical models? I am talking about a theory about “natural systems” models. Not about man made models for expressing their thoughts. And graphics produced by this theory are suggesting that the linear logistic of Mathematics is good for translating a smaller phase of any natural systems longlife. Here is the predictive power of Math: it can predict the smaller phase of the next systems inside the big hierarchy of systems that composes the Universe. Matrix/DNA formulas are based on human mental translation in shape of designs that register the internal circuit flow of energy/information at observed natural systems and the final result of these draws seems something like genetics and simple computational software’s diagrams. That’s the way Nature works. Math falls when trying to calculate the whole of any system because they are not solely based on Mathematical logics.I will try an analogy:

    Aliens made of iron and rubber that does not know life as we know and does not see the our visible light arrived to Earth. They saw lots of bone skeleton walking on the streets ( their vision can’t see the soft meat). Their Cosmology and Astronomy are based on Physics and Math. Quickly they learned and described the skeleton, its origins, composition, etc. Nothing about Biology, neurology, mental sciences, then, nothing about the whole system “human body”. This is the way that Physics and Math is seeing the Universe. Only its skeleton composed by atoms, galaxies and its “mechanistic” processes, not the other levels of processes necessary for understanding the whole. Matrix/DNA’s Universe have a coverture of biological organization of matter which reveals that all natural systems, like atoms and galaxies, have also their “DNA” and express some primordial principles of genetics and so on. Welcome to the universal Matrix/DNA world view.

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    What do DNA and human sexuality have to do with the universe at large?

    Would this “unknown website” be www dot universalmatrix dot com? Because that’s what comes up first when you give universal matrix dna to Google (after some articles that mention the words independently).

    Your diagram is not in English, so it is not helpful to a monolingual chap like me.

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    I only had to look at the diagram for a few seconds to get the
    general idea. The original poster learned about genetics, and
    it impressed him so strongly that now he interprets everything
    in terms of genetics, including the origin and evolution of the
    Universe.

    Have I got that right?

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    the diagram is not in English so I’m not sure what it is trying to claim. I will how ever address some of the OP comments.

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ID:	20110Do you think is it possible that the modern Cosmos’ world view can be revolutionized like that when the heliocentric world view came upon the geocentric world view? I am asking it because there is a rational theoretical Cosmos’ model, unknown by you, suggesting that reality is very different than we are thinking. For instance, while we think that stars are born, they are dying, and vice-versa. Wait: remember that only proved known facts can debunk this hypothesis, do not deny it supported only upon the believed concepts built by the current theoretical model.

    Your understanding of how we have come about the current mainstream models seems a bit flawed. It isn’t that someone just came up with a model and “well this model say things would have happened this way” and then just believe.
    The theories have been developed and changed over time based on observations. The hallmark of a good theory is that it is not only falsifiable but that it makes very good predictions within its domain of applicability. As a hypothesis coming in to replace a established theory you have to do a number of things. 1st is that the new hypothesis is at least as good at making predictions and fitting the data as the current model within its domain of applicability. This also means that the new hypothesis can be independently verified via the scientific method. Next the new theory should be capable of distinguishing itself from the existing theory. IE you can’t just say “It makes all the same predictions as the existing theory”. This is where new “ideas” most often fail and fail miserably. They can’t be qualified. They often involve a lot of hand waving and seem to always not be defined well enough that anyone can independently verify of falsify them.

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    The author is not scientist neither amador astronomer and never thought about thinking out the box in relation to the mainstream model. But, 30 years ago and spending 7 years studying the natural systems that composes the Amazon jungle total biosphere, he found that explanations about the origins of each system must comes from the astronomical system surrounding Earth. That’s the cause he searched data from Astronomy, and concluded that the modern Nebular or Standard Theory must be not complete. Trying to complete it for getting a model able to create this biosphere, he built which is called “The Universal Matrix/DNA of All Natural Systems and Life’s Cycles”. It includes new and very different models for atomic and astronomical systems.Since that Astronomy, quantum theory, were not his business, and he is a skeptical naturalist philosopher, he tried to forget his models, but, by the last 30 years, the bombardment of news, data, images, every day remembering the predictions of his model, made him to search scrutiny and testings, by the academic teams. Due its isolation at the jungle or even in New York ( he is American citizen) never reached someone for talking about. Here, at CosmoQuestX, appears to be a great opportunity.

    There are thousands of evidences for this new model, collected at his unknown website, the unique source of divulgation. So, I don’t know which I will bring here first for beginning a discussion. I will try only one by know, referring the picture attached here.

    How Nature – the state of the world, the state of the Solar and Milk Way systems – at 4 billion years ago, built every properties of biological systems at Earth surface? Metabolism, life’s cycle, sexual reproduction, genetic code, etc.,? The Matrix/DNA model is a unique astronomical model that shows where all these biological properties were hidden as potential natural forces and elements inside the Solar and galactic systems. I know you will not accept and grasp this idea, but, the unique rational and scientific thinking way is pointing out one detail of this biosphere at a time, asking here for me pointing out the principle or primordial force at the astronomical model. For beginning to understand what I am talking about, the picture attached here is about the primordial process, forces and elements contained inside the building block of all astronomical systems, 4 billion years ago, that evolved into the modern human sexual reproductive system.

    Is there someone interested in this issue? I will be grateful… Cheers for everybody here…

    English doesn’t seem to be your first language but even so much of that last main paragraph makes no sense to me.

    First is that the solar system is about 4.6 billion years old. The material that makes up our solar system is billions of years older and formed from stellar processes from earlier stars. Something we continue to observe today. It isn’t like we just think stars form in a certain way without proof. We can see stars in every stage of the process from their initial formation to their often very violent death. We can tell you what the star is made of, how hot it is, how big it is, how old it probably is, how it will progress in its life cycle. We can now even detect the planets around many stars and tell you a lot about them. There is still a lot to learn but nothing so far points to the current models being just out and out wrong like the old heliocentric or geocentric views.

    So what problem is there with the current theories on the formation of our solar system?
    Why do you not think that normal chemical processes could not form the biochemistry of the early Earth?
    Why do you not think that normal biological processes could not account for the diversity of life from its being on the Earth?
    What does DNA have to do with anything in regards to the formation of solar systems?
    Why do we care about the “human sexual reproductive system”? Why is it more special then the reproductive system of any other life form on Earth, many of which share traits because of common ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMatrixDNA View Post
    Mathematical models? I am talking about a theory about “natural systems” models. Not about man made models for expressing their thoughts. And graphics produced by this theory are suggesting that the linear logistic of Mathematics is good for translating a smaller phase of any natural systems longlife. My formulas are based on softwares that works like genetics, no Math. Math falls when trying to calculate the whole of any system because they are not based on Mathematical logics.I will try a sample:Aliens made of iron and rubber that does not know life as we know and does not see the our visible light arrived to Earth. They saw lots of bone skeleton walking on the streets ( their vision can’t see the soft meat). Their Cosmology and Astronomy are based on Physics and Math. Quickly they learned and described the skeleton, its origins, composition, etc. Nothing about Biology, neurology, mental sciences, then, nothing about the whole system “human body”. This is the way that human Sciences is seeing the Universe. Only its skeleton composed by atoms, galaxies. My Universe have a coverture of biological organization of matter which reveals that all natural systems, like atoms and galaxies, have also their “DNA”. Welcome to the universal Matrix.

    No, you can’t just make up stuff and make unsupported claims about it in a science forum like here.

    First you’d have to explain how alien life could exist from just iron and rubber.
    Next you have to explain how that alien life “sees” the universe around us. Even if there was a part of the electromagnetic spectrum that did let them view us like that it doesn’t change the actual physics of the universe so that they wouldn’t be able to make observations in other spectrums.
    for example we only “see” in a very narrow band of we define as “visible light” yet we “see”, via instruments, pretty much the whole electromagnetic spectrum. Even if something is completely invisible to the naked eye we can observe it. When you look up at the night sky and see black our telescopes look up in all different wavelengths and see so much more then our eyes alone would.
    Could the alien life not have access to technology that would see our flesh? I guess but just because they are ignorant and form bad models on incomplete data doesn’t mean anything. If you think there is something science isn’t “seeing” then you have to explain a) how you can detect it and b) how it is needed to explain what we do see.

    I can say that the orbits of the planets are controlled by IPWUs (Invisible Pink Winged Unicorns) pulling them along and we just can’t detect them but this doesn’t make it a better explanation then gravity because since it is undetectable it is not falsifiable.

    So far the hypothesis you are supporting doesn’t rise to the classification of science. It is squarely in the realm of what is akin to new age pseudoscience.

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    Differences of cultures coming from different habitats makes difficult a conversation, but, with patience, each part will understand the other. You need to learn how doing it because you are going to meet very different culture at new planets. So, by while I didn’t understand why you have interpreted my say – “all these biological properties were hidden as potential natural forces and elements inside the Solar and galactic systems” – as – ” What DNA and human sexuality have to do with the universe at large?” I never said such thing and my answer should be another question: “What the fetus have to do with the egg at large? Maybe, that the egg is merely an accessory supporting the fetus?”. But, I can say: “DNA and human sexuality are evolutionary products made in this Universe and by primordial states of bits-information present at the Big Bang”. For sure! If not, show me what supernatural force coming from outside the long universal chain of causes and effects made them? If you forget this logical principle of reasoning, you will need inventing mystical forces, as gods or ex-machine randomness.
    But, will we go anywhere debating concepts. We need to attaining at real facts. My affirmation is: Human sexuality – the machinery and process – is the product of biological organization of matter evolved from the part of the machinery and process of the mechanical astronomical primordial organization of matter.
    If we have not seen it, we need search them there, because they must be there. For doing it there is some methods, which the principal are:

    a) comparative anatomy between biological systems and astronomical systems ( I did it with atomic systems also). This is a long process because you get thousands of differences, thousands of sameness ( like: biological systems have life’s cycle and astronomical systems have it also);

    b) Calculating the reverse pathway of universal evolution, along 13,7 billion years. Starting from the top of evolution here and now and going back to the Big Bang. These calculation will be driven by the the 3 known variables of biological evolution ( VSI- Variation, Selection, Inheritance), plus 4 variables mechanisms of cosmological evolution. Never forget that cosmological mechanisms are involved upon biological and biological mechanisms must have been involved into cosmological.

    c) never makes a new step in yours calculations without searching everywhere in universal nature a known real proved fact that supports as parameter the prior theoretical conclusion ( if you does not do it, you will fail away off the beam)

    d) and strictly formal logics.

    Doing that you will find ( theoretically) what machinery and processes at astronomical systems evolved into biological reproductive sexual machinery and processes. It will be very difficult to recognize the biological process of self-reproduction at the Newtonian described mechanics of astronomical systems, as it is difficult to find inside a computer the corresponding parts and processes that mimics the human brain. But, it is possible going further and discovering these machinery and process at electromagnetic organization of matter, also. The final level inside this Universe where you will see this phenomena is at a positive light wave mixed with negative light wave. ( See the graphic here. Please, try:http://theuniversalmatrix.com/pt-br/…-Spectrum1.bmp

    So, the fundamental unit of information of DNA is a lateral pair of nucleotides and it has the same configuration and functionality as the fundamental unit of information of all known natural systems, including atomic and astronomical systems.
    ( I am busy now, but will come back for other contributions here. Thanks to the contributors…)

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    The author is not scientist neither amador astronomer and never thought about thinking out the box in relation to the mainstream model….

    TheMatrixDNA: You have may get some issues with this ATM thread. As far as I know, you have to present and defend the ATM idea here. The second hand presentation and defense of someone else’s idea will be prone to misinterpretations.

    Presenting what could be a diagram of the author’s ignorance about physics and biology in an non-English language is not a good start :P!
    For a start

    • the universe is at least 13.8 billions years old (not 4 billion).
    • astronomy is not biology and biology is not astronomy.
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    My Universe have a coverture of biological organization of matter which reveals that all natural systems, like atoms and galaxies, have also their “DNA”. Welcome to the universal Matrix.

    So, in reading the diagram, I can’t help but notice that there are no details. Y contains half the info of what? X contains all the information of what? You have a series of points labeled Function 1, Function 2 and so on. What “function”?

    My Portuguese is nearly non-existent.

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    To Nowhere Man:Differences of cultures coming from different habitats makes difficult a conversation, but, with patience, each part will understand the other. You need to learn how doing it because you are going to meet very different culture at new planets. So, by while I didn’t understand why you have interpreted my say – “all these biological properties were hidden as potential natural forces and elements inside the Solar and galactic systems” – as – ” What DNA and human sexuality have to do with the universe at large?” I never said such thing and my answer should be another question: “What the fetus have to do with the egg at large? Maybe, that the egg is merely an accessory supporting the fetus?”. But, I can say: “DNA and human sexuality are evolutionary products made in this Universe and by primordial states of bits-information present at the Big Bang”. For sure! If not, show me what supernatural force coming from outside the long universal chain of causes and effects made them? If you forget this logical principle of reasoning, you will need inventing mystical forces, as gods or ex-machine randomness.
    But, will we go anywhere debating concepts. We need to attaining at real facts. My affirmation is: Human sexuality – the machinery and process – is the product of biological organization of matter evolved from the part of the machinery and process of the mechanical astronomical primordial organization of matter.
    If we have not seen it, we need search them there, because they must be there. For doing it there is some methods, which the principal are:

    a) comparative anatomy between biological systems and astronomical systems ( I did it with atomic systems also). This is a long process because you get thousands of differences, thousands of sameness ( like: biological systems have life’s cycle and astronomical systems have it also);

    b) Calculating the reverse pathway of universal evolution, along 13,7 billion years. Starting from the top of evolution here and now and going back to the Big Bang. These calculation will be driven by the the 3 known variables of biological evolution ( VSI- Variation, Selection, Inheritance), plus 4 variables mechanisms of cosmological evolution. Never forget that cosmological mechanisms are involved upon biological and biological mechanisms must have been involved into cosmological.

    c) never makes a new step in yours calculations without searching everywhere in universal nature a known real proved fact that supports as parameter the prior theoretical conclusion ( if you does not do it, you will fail away off the beam)

    d) and strictly formal logics.

    Doing that you will find ( theoretically) what machinery and processes at astronomical systems evolved into biological reproductive sexual machinery and processes. It will be very difficult to recognize the biological process of self-reproduction at the Newtonian described mechanics of astronomical systems, as it is difficult to find inside a computer the corresponding parts and processes that mimics the human brain. But, it is possible going further and discovering these machinery and process at electromagnetic organization of matter, also. The final level inside this Universe where you will see this phenomena is at a positive light wave mixed with negative light wave. ( See the graphic here. Please, try: http://theuniversalmatrix.com/pt-br/…-Spectrum1.bmp

    So, the fundamental unit of information of FNA is a lateral pair of nucleotides and it has the same configuration and functionality as the fundamental unit of information of all known natural systems, including atomic and astronomical systems.
    ( I am busy now, but will come back for other contributions here. Thanks to the contributors…)

    Biology is just chemistry. Chemistry is just physics. Physics is just the rules that stuff in our universe obey.

    Your image makes no sense.
    Explain what you mean by it.
    Why is electromagnetic wave lengths from 103– 10-2 labeled with Stars and the elderly?
    Why is electromagnetic wave lengths from 10-2– 10-5 labeled with Comets and adults?
    Why is electromagnetic wave lengths from 10-5– 10-6 labeled with Pulsars and sperm?
    etc

    Nothing just slapping labels on a existing chart doesn’t mean anything. You have to explain the components and the relations and what it means.

    Fact ~13.8 billion years ago the universe started and produced hydrogen, helium and lots of photons.
    Fact soon after the hydrogen and helium gas collapsed to form the first generation of stars then fused those light elements into heavier elements.
    Fact after a few tens or hundreds of millions of years stars started forming that had higher metallicity
    Fact Chemical processes allowed elements to form into molecules.
    Fact Those same chemical process allow for biological molecules to form.
    Fact There is no reason to think that those chemical processes could not and did not result in at least one abiogenesis event.
    Fact There is no reason to think that we are a product of evolution from one such abiogenesis event.

    Yes we are part of the universe and our biochemistry is just a product of chemistry. Note the “chemistry” in both those words. Chemistry is just a manifestation of interaction based on physics.

    To that end yes the laws that govern our universe are also ultimately responsible for you and me being here. That is it. I’m not even sure what you are trying to claim but it smells of new age pseudo science.

    So how about actually explaining what you mean. Because if it is just what I’ve already listed then you have discovered what the science says. Your graphic suggests you are implying more and it really makes no sense as is.

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    For those that are wondering about the Portuguese from left to right it is
    Cadaver
    Elderly
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    chromosomes X + Y

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    To Solfe ( thanks by the right question):

    I will try to explain a little bit of the diagram because we need several big books for everything ( I am working it during 40 years and every day discovering something new about this formula). It is about ” systems”, which connects and interacts with all natural systems and account for 13,7 billions years of transformations/evolution. I don’t know how to begin and which detail should be the first. Before explaining the diagram, I think that it is better an introduction about the general meaning of the whole theory. This diagram is based upon other diagram, which could be seen as a formula, the most simple software diagram:
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    The non-scientific merely philosophical observation of the elements composing the Amazon’s biosphere, the way they interacts themselves and with the surrounding whole, identifying and seeing these elements as units of systems, finally suggests that there is a pattern common to every system composing that biosphere. You can see the pattern when trying to draw the channels of interactions between those elements and inside the elements, between their organs and cells ( wait: if you like Astronomy and Physics I will show these patterns at those fields). Drawing those channels where runs blood at animal bodies, or runs those fluids of plants ( I need advise you something very important here: sometimes I forget the right words,, names, in English, or use wrong words, like now I don’t remember the English names of those liquids running inside plants), or the chain of food among the species, all of them results into the same final drawing, or figure. They have the same shape, the same configuration, same dynamics. So, the conclusion by the author is that those fluids or energy changing are carried or they transports a flow of energy/information. It is like an electrical circuit unifying parts into a system. This circuit is a kind of soul of all natural systems. And this circuit models the shape of material structures repeating the same pattern visible at every biological architecture. So, this formula is the circuit inside which runs the flow of energy/information of a complete, perfect, closed, natural system. This flow is composed by particles or parts ( the Fs) which express the dimension space with those intervals between the parts, which express the dimension time, the chronological order of events during the lifetime of a system.
    We have no animals and plants visible here, so, I will point out something that you have just now at yours eyes and makes easy to begin understanding what this pattern is about, how it models every biological architecture. Please take yours left hand. Now put it with palm down over the formula. Please, put the palm over F1, that figure of a vortex. The minor finger will be over F2, the followings fingers upon F3, F4, F5, F6 and F7. Don’t get conclusions yet.
    Now, please, try to see that the formula have the same shape of a lateral horizontal pair of nucleotides of the DNA. F1 is the left sugar and F4 is the right sugar, while the others Fs are the four nitrogenous bases, linked by hydrogens bridges.
    Now, please put yours two hands in front of you. One hand with palms down, the other with palms up. Turn the hands in a way that the fingers of left are superposed upon the fingers at right. Imagine that the two palms are the two horizontal lateral sugars of DNA. The four superposed fingers are the bases, and the thumbs are the left and right streams of the DNA. Still, it could be merely coincidences. It is DNA that makes hands, but, forget it by now.
    Do not make any judgement by while, please. This exercise had the goal only for showing to you the basic principles used by the author for beginning to grasp the existence of that universal pattern. If you know the explanations of that formula, you will notice that yours fingers repeat the five principal shapes acquired by yours own body due the process of life’s cycle ( the minor is the baby shape, the other is the child, till the thumb, which is the elderly. And the usual different, specific function of each finger repeats the usual function of each human body shape at familiar and social humans systems, which are, by extension, copies of natural systems. And going further into the levels of different dimensions of this universal Nature, you will notice that the intensity of energy and work of each finger, each shape of human body are equal the intensity of energy of each frequency/vibration of the electromagnetic spectrum of any light wave. The sequence of vibrations/length, etc., are the same.
    Now, don’t’do that, but imagine putting yours face upon this formula. The mouth and nose goes over F1. Two eyes are F1 and F7. Two ears are F2 and F6. The front head will be F4. Since that this formula makes the same effect when we put a building block of astronomical systems 10 billion years old, you will discover that the human face was written in the stars.
    Don’t do that, but only imagine putting the whole body over the formula, the stomach over F1, the heart over F4, ( both Fs works as a bomb, like stomachs and hearths)… Or take this new system built by Nature, the top of evolution here, called “brain” and put it over the formula, hippocampus over F1 and locates the other hormonal glandes upon each F.
    It means that there was a working formula at that terrestrial soup where life began. ( I will explain it later). And working that soup was the energy from the Sun. The author took his eyes from the pantano where he was looking for LUCA ( the Last Universal Common Ancestor of all biological systems) and drove his eyes towards the Sun, The secret is coming from there… that’s when he began to search about everything that the scientific field of Astronomy had collected. And finally draw a model of what must be a building block of astronomical systems that fits the formula. The first drawing made at the jungle with rough papers and pencils was this one, a system containing all known seven principals different shapes of astronomical bodies, but, connected by the same systemic circuit:

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    As all living beings have a common internal pattern called DNA which was the carrier of biological evolution, all natural systems, from atoms to galaxies to human beings, have in common this pattern, so, let’s say, it is their “dna”, their inner template. But it sometimes is mechanical, biological, electro-magnetic, etc. till existing at a light wave. So DNA is merely its biological shape and the top shape of the long evolution of this “pattern”. Let’s call this universal pattern as Matrix/DNA.
    This pattern works like a fractal, but not like the Fractal obtained by Mandelbrot using Math because it is living fractal and evolves from the simplest shape ( merely a vortex) till the most knowns complexes system’s shapes, that’s difficult to identify something that change its shapes and composition accordingly to each different environment.
    This pattern is a working natural system. It has parts, nucleus, internal interactions and a final identity of the system, which is the sum of all parts’ information plus the informations derived by fuzzy internal logics, and this identity determines the behavior of the system. But, now, going further into natural history, emerges the suggestion that the great secret of this system is that it is formed when any portion of inertial mass ( dark matter, aether, space’s substance?) is penetrated by a natural light wave which means that the code for all natural systems began with a light wave emitted at the Big Bang. ( wait… this is merely a non-scientific theory – it is a theory as coined by the Greeks philosophers).
    Now, if the moderator don’t close this thread because – I agree – it is to much “weird” and seems off topic, the next post I will try to explain the first diagram, which suggests what were the ancestors elements and forces that evolved into sexual chromosomes.

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    Wayne , I will try getting time for answering each question from yours, but the few time now permit me an answer:

    So what problem is there with the current theories on the formation of our solar system?

    There is no problem. But… my models are suggesting that have two processes, or two methods for astronomical systems formation. It mimics the two processes, or two methods of cell’s systems formation. The first cell system was formed by symbiosis, then, the cells learned how to replicate themselves. All existent cells today were formed by the second process. My models are suggesting that the first galaxy ( or first astronomical system) was formed by symbiosis. From all existent galaxies today, I don’t know are there old galaxies formed by the first process. Our solar system seems to be the second process, so, the current academic theory could be right. Ihave a question for you, about images captured by Hubble. There are images where two galaxies are together, them, the current theory interprets the image as “collision” of galaxies. My model is suggesting the opposite thing: those galaxies were twins and they are separating. My question is: what data the current model have for proving that they are colliding? If Nature makes that everything equal are self-repulsive and the opposite are attracted, why galaxies should be different?

    But why I am telling that they are separating? Because I search the whole Universe, the whole Nature, and never saw a system colliding and entering inside other. By another hand I can see here nature showing the same image sent by Hubble: when a cell system enters into mitosis. We know that it is two galaxies because we see two shapes of galaxies and two nucleus. But, when a cell goes to replicate, first it creates a new nucleo, then the organelles, then the two cells separates. It is the same image I am seeing in the sky, thanks to Hubble and the prestigious NASA’s team. The repulsion between galaxies and their “replication” could explain why the Universe is expanding – for arrangement of places for newborn galaxies, like a fetus or embryo expands.

    The first process of symbiosis is necessary for explain the origins of bodies that are not in the solar system, like quasars, pulsars and galactic nuclei. Who drove this process was just the Matrix, at an evolved state from its primordial state… a light wave. So, using yours own words:

    Fact ~13.8 billion years ago the universe started and produced hydrogen, helium and lots of photons.
    Fact soon after the hydrogen and helium gas collapsed to form the first generation of stars then fused those light elements into heavier elements.

    Till here, I almost agree. The problem is the word “stars”. I would say: … helium gas collapsed to form the first generation of a kind of astronomical body. And other problem is that my models says: there were hidden variables acting upon this evolution, as the spatial substance ( which could be dark matter) that was penetrated by waves of light emitted by the Big Bang. A light wave have seven principal intensity of vibration which imprints the life’s cycle into mass, or matter. When those bodies absorbed the light waves they acquired the process of vital cycles, so, they were being transformed as any body have their shapes transformed under a vital cycle. Having now seven different shapes of bodies, and since their shapes and vibrational states mimics the seven frequencies of light, those bodies were aligned by the same sequence… this was the astronomical symbiosis. It happens that when you curve the line of this sequence, at opened space, getting a spherical shape, and links the initial point with the final point, the flow of the vital cycle becomes the flow that runs inside a circuit performing a perfect closed system. This was the building block of astronomical systems. Its shape and configuration is the same shape and configuration of a lateral base-pair of nucleotides, which pair is the fundamental unit of information, the building block of DNA. So, the seeds for life are being spreaded everywhere, searching a planet in good conditions. It is not panspermia. Astronomical systems projects themselves as a whole as the seed for biological systems. Are there some problem about sizes? The astronomic is big and the nucleotide is microscopic? Nature applies nanotechnology and giantology ( sorry, I need to invent this world just now) everywhere. Yours own body is the result of yours parent bodies that have collapsed and nannotechnolyzed ( another rampant word) inside a microscopic chromosome. I am suggesting that the current academic model is not wrong, only that it is not complete. And with some mistakes: when they think that a image reveals a star born, it is dying, and vice-versa. But, the birth or death of a star takes millions years, so, we never will prove what theory is wrong here. With the Matrix/DNA’s formula we can explaining everything that exists today and the Natural Universal History of 13,7 billion years. And my models are suggesting there are no black holes as theorized by Hawkins: at the nucleus of any astronomical system there is a vortex made by the rotation of a nebula of dust coming from died systems.

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    TheMatrixDNA: You have may get some issues with this ATM thread. As far as I know, you have to present and defend the ATM idea here. The second hand presentation and defense of someone else’s idea will be prone to misinterpretations.

    Later posts suggest that you are the author of the ATM idea, so this may not be an issue. To confirm this my first question.
    IF1: Are you the author of this ATM idea, TheMatrixDNA?

    I will point out a couple more errors in your OP.

    • Any evidence against the mainstream model is not support for your model.
      Your model is not the only alternative to the mainstream that exists (just read the ATM section )!
    • No evidence can support a model that does not exist.
      A model in science is not an idea in someone’s head and their thoughts about what that idea means, even with pretty pictures. A model in science produces predictions that can be tested against the real universe. That involves mathematics.

    Scientific terminology exists for a reason – so that people can agree on what things are!
    A star is … a star!
    Hydrogen (and a bit of helium, etc.) collapsed to form the first generation of a kind of astronomical body called a star!
    Light waves are … light waves!

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    To Solfe ( thanks by the right question):I will try to explain a little bit of the diagram because we need several big books for everything ( I am working it during 40 years and every day discovering something new about this formula). It is about ” systems”, which connects and interacts with all natural systems and account for 13,7 billions years of transformations/evolution. I don’t know how to begin and which detail should be the first. Before explaining the diagram, I think that it is better an introduction about the general meaning of the whole theory. This diagram is based upon other diagram, which could be seen as a formula, the most simple software diagram:
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    Seeing I have been a business analyst/ software engineer for over 26 years know I fully understand software diagrams. The diagram you link to makes little sense compared to a software life cycle diagram.

    Let us examine your various images. First off your understanding of cosmic evolution seems flawed.
    You have this sequence
    Black hole => Baby star => Planet => Pulsar => star => star dust
    and star dust looping back to black hole.

    First off besides the early stars where there was no material to make planets besides those that were failed stars planets and stars form about the same time. During the time the star is forming the planetary system is also forming.
    Next is pulsars come after a star has used up all of its fuel and not before.
    Also most stars do not form pulsars.

    So the actual sequence is something is more of a tree and the next step depends on the previous step. For example a molecular cloud may or may not form a protoplanetary disk and may or may not produce a star sufficient to cause nuclear fusion.
    A star when it runs out of fuel will produce different things depending on its size. It may end in a nova leaving behind a white dwarf. It may super nova leaving behind neutron star or black hole. If a neutron star is left behind it may or may not be
    a pulsar depending on a number of factors.
    Black holes produce almost nothing. The radiation left over from the surface of last scattering, also known as the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, over whelms the hawking radiation from any black hole out there at the movement.

    The fact is that new stars, and planets, are produced from the material ejected from nova and supernova of earlier stars. But in the animal kingdom that would be the equivalent of when someone dies they explode into a bunch of cells. Those cells group up into zygotes. Those zygotes collect more cells and form blastocyst. Those blastocyst gather more cells forming an fetus. That fetus gathers more cells from the surrounding cloud to make a baby. That baby develops not gathering any more material and cannibalizes itself until it grows old and dies. No need for mothers and fathers. But this isn’t what we see.

    You’re charts are almost meaningless. They are factually in error and the fact that there is a “stellar life cycle” and a “biological life cycle” is only similar in name. The links you try to establish art even weak. At best they are badly poetic.

    To continue on with your failed analogy. Children inherit their characteristics from their parents. For other life their is no change but just effectively cloning. In astronomy the characteristics of a star system isn’t as strictly linked to the previous generation of stars. A star could be made from the material of 0 – n previous stars and very likely to be more then just 2 previous stars. As pointed out for a new star to be formed it’s parent star(s) must have exploded. Stars don’t pop out of other stars. Some stars die and eat other other stars living for a brief moment again. So in astronomy terms white dwarves/neutron stars are like zombies.

    So you need to provide some actual evidence beyond your hand waving and VERY bad analogies between the life cycle of humans and stars.

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    – ” What DNA and human sexuality have to do with the universe at large?” I never said such thing

    Then why do you keep bringing up DNA and X and Y chromosomes? DNA is a molecule specific to biology, and not universal there (some viruses use RNA only). While X and Y chromosomes aren’t specific to humans, they are what most people are familiar with because that is what our species uses for sexual determination (generally – there are complicating details). However, it is far from a universal system. Many species don’t reproduce by sex in the first place. Then there is the fact that there are a number of sex determination systems. There is the ZW system, with males having ZZ chromosomes and females having ZW. There’s the X0 system. There are environment based sex determination systems.

    X and Y chromosomes are far from universal even in earth life, and DNA (as well as RNA) molecules are far from universal, period. So what’s the point of even mentioning them?


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    Fact ~13.8 billion years ago the universe started and produced hydrogen, helium and lots of photons.
    Fact soon after the hydrogen and helium gas collapsed to form the first generation of stars then fused those light elements into heavier elements.Till here, I almost agree. The problem is the word “stars”. I would say: … helium gas collapsed to form the first generation of a kind of astronomical body.

    Are you claiming that helium, not hydrogen, is the most abundant element in the universe? Are you claiming that stars are generally made of helium? Note that our own star is mostly hydrogen, and hydrogen is, per the evidence, the most abundant element in the universe.


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    As said this post isn’t even wrong. It is pseudo science word salad and mean absolutely nothing.

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    Wayne , I will try getting time for answering each question from yours, but the few time now permit me an answer:So what problem is there with the current theories on the formation of our solar system?… And my models are suggesting there are no black holes as theorized by hawkins: at the nucleus of any astronomical system there is a vortex made by the rotation of a nebula of dust coming from died systems.

    You have no models. You have hand waving word salad with no proof. Hand waving and word salad don’t count as proof.

    We know galaxies collide because we understand how gravity effects matter. We don’t have to watch 2 galaxies colliding over tens – hundreds of millions of years to know that it is happening. We have plenty of evidence of gravity pulling matter together. We have absolutely no evidence at the scales you are talking about pushing anything apart. We have never seen, and I can predict with great probability, will never see a human or other body of mass suddenly fly off the Earth do to a repulsion of gravity especially naturally occurring gravity.

    Just because you interpret the data in a manner that goes against all known physics doesn’t mean anything besides the fact that you have a very poor grasp on the relevant science. When you look at a picture of a galaxy merger and say it appears to you that they are separating I can agree that a still image could ignorantly be thought that they are separating. Looking at the images there are 3 possible answers.
    1) The galaxies are merging
    2) The galaxies are splitting
    3) The galaxies are static in that formation

    Now again if you don’t know any of the science you might as well flip a coin on which one is correct.
    But thankfully we don’t have to do this. There not only is a lot of science to back up #1 and that same science falsifies #2 & #3.
    We don’t even have to stop there. While you look at a static image that just gives you some visual data actual scientists can use more data then you can see to determine what is going on.
    While it is true that these mergers would take much longer then any human would be able to individually watch we don’t need to watch it for that long.
    We can detect the motion of these galaxies even with just the images we take. We do this using the doppler shift objects in motion cause.
    Think of it this way. Say you are inside a house sitting on a chair looking out a small window.
    Outside there are 2 children playing catch. You can’t see either child but when they throw the ball you see it pass the window. Even with that small window you can tell which direction the ball is going and thus which child threw the ball.
    Likewise these images can be analysed to indicate the motions of the galaxies and the motions indicate a merger not them flying apart.

    So for your idea to be true we would have to do the following
    1) throw out what we know about gravity.
    2) discover some process that would do what you are suggesting.

    I would say: … helium gas collapsed to form the first generation of a kind of astronomical body.

    And you would be wrong given everything we know about physics. First off the first generations of stars formed from a mix of hydrogen and helium. A ratio that fits very well with the main stream models. There is no separation of those gases and
    if the first generation of stars formed from just helium things would be a bit different. So we have yet another problem where your idea doesn’t AT ALL match the reality we see around us.

    And other problem is that my models says: there was the spatial substance ( which could be dark matter) that was penetrated by waves of light emitted by the Big Bang.

    First off you having stated a first problem unless you count your actual first idea as a problem. But that doesn’t mean anything because your first idea is fantasy.
    The statement “there was the spatial substance ( which could be dark matter) that was penetrated by waves of light emitted by the Big Bang.” means nothing. It is a great example of pseudo science word salad. It says nothing and means nothing while trying to coopt terms in an effort to impress the ignorant. When I was stationed in Hawaii I used to assist our IT help desk. I’d often go out to look at someones computer that called in with some problem. Very often when I got there everything worked fine. Many times it would be something stupid like the computer was unplugged. When asked what was wrong often I would say that I couldn’t find a fault or point out they didn’t have their computer plugged in. One time on a call that it was just the computer being unplugged, and told me on the call at our help desk if it was plugged in and was told yes, I was asked what was wrong with the computer. I responded with “The flux capacitor was oscillating, I just had to invert the modulation to obtain a spherical sinusoidal wave period from the CPU.” and the person nodded in agreement and said “Oh, OK”. When I left their office with a work mate they looked at me and asked what that was about and I told them “Before we came up I asked him if his computer was plugged in and he said yes and it wasn’t and I wanted to see how ignorant about computers he was.”. My word salad didn’t fool my work mate and only made them ask why I said the ridiculous thing that I did. Like wise spouting out a sentence like indicates either 1 of 2 things to most people here. 1) You don’t know even the basics of the science topic you are dealing with and your really think that what you said makes sense or 2) You are just trying to fool people hoping they’ll just nod in agreement.

    A light wave have seven principal intensity of vibration which imprints the life’s cycle into mass, or matter.

    Again pseudo science word salad. The grouping of Radio, Microwave, Infra Red, Visible, Ultraviolet, X-ray and Gamma ray are all just arbitrary human classifications of the electromagnetic spectrum. In fact the “Visible” spectrum is very arbitrary to the human eye. Other animals have different visible spectrum ranges. We could have any number of break downs and there is nothing about it that “imprints the life’s cycle into mass, or matter”

    When those bodies absorbed the light waves they acquired the process of vital cycles, so, they was being transformed as any body have their shapes transformed under a vital cycle. having now seven different shapes of bodies, and since their shapes and vibrational states mimics the seven frequencies of light, those bodies were aligned by the same sequence…

    WF1 Define: vital cycles
    WF2 State how light waves carry “vital cycles”
    WF3 State how different “vital cycles” are part of different frequencies of the electromagnetic spectrum.
    WF4 State how the “different shapes of bodies” are defined and how they transition from one shape to another. IE at what point does a baby become a child? How do we quantitatively know if a young human is either a baby or a child?
    WF5 Define: “vibrational states”
    WF6 State how the “vibrational state” aligns to a body and why other “vibrational states” can not align to a body.

    Consider those official questions. We need answers that can be used by independent parties to validate your claims. If your answers can’t be used to validate your claims then you aren’t talking about real science.

    Finally you don’t seem to understand what Stephen Hawking says about black holes. So your final statement, like pretty much every other line in your post, says nothing and isn’t based in reality.

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    Thanks by yours contribution to my work. My suggestion is that gora out from concepts, interpretations and straight on some facts. So, yours question:

    WF1 Define: vital cycles

    Wikipedia: In biology, a life cycle is a series of changes in form that an organism undergoes, returning to the starting state. (…) Reproduction completes and perpetuates the cycle.
    Ok, the world view produced by Matrix/DNA Theory suggests that this phenomena called “vital cycles” came by evolution from the ancestor of biological systems, which is this planet, plus the solar system, plus the galactic system. Yours model says no, everything that is “life” exists only at biological level. Then the mainstream mindset is not considering this phenomena when elaborating the standard model. Or it have did it and I am not known it?
    If a cosmic model does not see the vital cycle of astronomical systems, it will be obligated to conclude that these systems and its parts are formed by spontaneous generation, in the shape they are just as we see them. And this is just what the standard model suggests as the formation of astronomical bodies. In Biology we made this mistake long time ago, when the Greek philosophers believed in spontaneous generations of organisms.
    A big mistake made by one is comparing a system with parts of another system. Organisms are systems, their organs are parts of a system. The vital cycle is applied over the system, not over the organs, since that organs does not change shapes.
    If the vital cycle came from Cosmos, as suggested by Matrix/DNA, it is or was applied over astronomical systems, not astronomical bodies as parts of that systems. Any rational astronomical model need including the calculations of changing shapes. The big problem for doing these calculations is knowing that astronomical systems had two processes of formation, and we does not know who is first generation or later generations.
    Then, we are getting lots of images of distant astronomical systems and bodies and the first worry is the classification: it is planet, a dwarf, pulsar, a star? Several bodies have not fit the definition of any group and is becoming common scientists saying… ” This goes against what was believed, meaning that we need fix something in our theory…”
    For me, at Matrix/DNA Theory there is no such problem. It is like an alien specie observing humans, each time that see a new human creates a debate: is it a child? a teenager? or maybe an elderly? But, okay, it is good trying to know the most about each object. That’s why I kept the Matrix/DNA cosmological model by 20 years only at my pocket, as an exercise of curiosity, observing the data coming from the mainstream, and making comparisons with my model. My real interest is the Matrix/DNA formula applied over here and now, not cosmology where I can’t do nothing.
    The big problem is what this Standard Model is suggesting about ours origins and meanings of our existence. It is suggesting that our existence is not supported by the Cosmos, we are like intruders virus and the meaning of the Cosmos existence is not our meaning. This world view is modeling the mind of humans which is building this civilization based on it. And Matrix/DNA world view is suggesting that the Humanity health is in needs that is time for fixing the Standard Model, before to be too much later.
    So, my question is: What happens at 4 billions years ago that changed cosmological evolution in the way that the systems ancestor had no life’s cycles and the systems after that event have life’s cycles?

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    You have no models. You have hand waving word salad with no proof. Hand waving and word salad don’t count as proof..

    Then, I am in better situation than you. I have ours hands, faces, everything in our body and ihis biosphere, for accounting as proof of my models. You have nothing here at Earth’s biosphere as proof for yours models, and lots of word salad that are convincing the ingenious students.

    You don’t have the human being as account for proof of yours Cosmic model because you have separated Universal Evolution into two blocks – Cosmological Evolution and Biological Evolution – without any evolutionary link between them. You took the long natural chain of causes and effects that comes from the Big Bang and left it outside the Earth’s surface, because the final product of this chain here and now does not fit with yours model as the producer. Then, for explaining our presence here you need fulfill the gap between the two blocks with something non-existent, as the magic randomness. Wake up now for not finishing like yours gurus writing books explaining how something could came from nothing, and put words salad there… Or Stephen Hawking seeing non-existents black ghosts monstrous cannibals of galaxies in the sky…

    Do you know the worst thing about this? Is that, I think, it is possible that yours models are right. I have no proof for debunking them, so, I should be mystical, not rational, if merely saying that they are impossible. The first rational reaction when we have no proofs for debunking a specific world view, is the Einstein’s reaction: “One doesn’t need to prove that his theory is right. Only that it makes sense.” So, the absence of proof is not enough for repealing a theory – that’s why it has the name of theory. The problem is that yours model does not make sense. I am asking a unique real proved fact that debunks my models and till now, nobody brought it over the table. Only bringing on another hypothesis and theories. I know it does not means that these models are right, I only ask the mortal fact for putting the models into the garbage and be free for searching on another direction, because I am here after the final thru – if it exists or not.

    After all yours bombardment, I still prefer the Matrix/DNA model when making comparisons with the Standard model because the few facts that I really know pointings out that it makes more sense. Matrix/DNA is something from something and something always back… Again, I am on better situation than you, because I have not broken my head on a wall of Nothing… at least, yet.

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    To Jeff Root:

    Almost right Jeff, but was not in that order that the theory was developed. First there was no genetics and no Universe, only a man living alone in the jungle, excaping from slavery by human modern civilization. As naturalist philosopher every time observing details of Nature and asking “why?, how?, “what’s produced this phenomena?”, he noticed a general pattern, put it in the paper – it is the Matrix/DNA fórmula. Genetics and the Universe came after, because the formula left him there.
    But, what is wrong thinking that this Universe is a kind of egg where is occurring a process of genetic reproduction of the thing that was existing before the Big Bang? The fact is that I am in the last 30 years, looking for any real proved fact that debunks this idea and nobody shows it. So, why isn’t it possible? Remember that genetics is based on DNA and DNA seems a computational program. Then, if we say that is occurring a genetic process or a computational process, maybe is something in between.
    There are two ways for investigating evolution. You can start from the Big Bang and calculating the next steps till arriving here and now; or you can start from everything that is known here and now and calculating the steps back in time, to arriving to the singularity and the Big Bang. The Standard model applies the first method; Matrix/DNA applies the second.
    You look to the diagram. My question is the repetition of the question made by the author when he saw a picture of sexual reproduction and learned about chromosomes: “What’s hell… How Nature had the idea when created this extraordinary engineering?! Where and how the long chain of causes and effects coming from the origins of this world, that created this phenomena here, had hidden the natural forces and elements used for producing this phenomena?”
    I would like an answer from the cosmic standard model. Meanwhile, the Matrix/DNA model has suggested an answer with this picture, I don’t believe in it, it must be tested… against real facts.
    What’s yours answer? But, please, no theories talking about magics of supernatural creative gods and supernatural creative randomness.

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    Thanks by yours contribution to my work. My suggestion is that gora out from concepts, interpretations and straight on some facts. So, yours question:WF1 Define: vital cycles

    Wikipedia: In biology, a life cycle is a series of changes in form that an organism undergoes, returning to the starting state. (…) Reproduction completes and perpetuates the cycle.
    Ok, the world view produced by Matrix/DNA Theory suggests that this phenomena called “vital cycles” came by evolution from the ancestor of biological systems, which is this planet, plus the solar system, plus the galactic system. Yours model says no, everything that is “life” exists only at biological level. Then the mainstream mindset is not considering this phenomena when elaborating the standard model. Or it have did it and I am not known it?

    Correct you don’t know it. You don’t seem to know the basics of science and there is the problem. You make untrue statements about reality then blame your ignorance of the science and claim it is wrong while you over simplified analogies some how provide a better explanation. They don’t. They might make you have a warm fuzzy feeling that you know something most people don’t but that does no good in the realm of reality where other people have to be able to take your claims and compare them to observations.

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    If a cosmic model does not see the vital cycle of astronomical systems, it will be obligated to conclude that these systems and its parts are formed by spontaneous generation, in the shape they are just as we see them. And this is just what the standard model suggests as the formation of astronomical bodies. In Biology we made this mistake long time ago, when the Greek philosophers believed in spontaneous generations of organisms.

    You apparently ignored my previous statement that said basically Biology comes from biological chemistry which is really just a subset of chemistry which follow the rules of physics which seem to have been set in the first moments of our universe.

    So VERY high level picture of what has happened in the last 13.8 billion years.

    The universe was in a very hot dense state. Essentially a sea of energy unimaginable by most people.
    Something, which we do not know and may never know, triggered a change in the hot dense state that made space rapidly inflate.
    As it rapidly inflated the fundamental forces of our observable universe came into being. These forces being gravity, the strong force, the weak force and the electromagnetic force.
    This allowed matter to form from energy which isn’t just an idea but an observable fact that we as humans have reproduced here on earth.
    This first bit of matter was ionized hydrogen. This hydrogen was create at a point where the temperature and density of the hydrogen in the universe was able to also undergo fusion like what happens in our sun.
    This allowed a portion of the hydrogen to fuse with other hydrogen into helium. Something we also know can happen and have duplicated here on Earth.
    As space expanded, as predicted by General Relativity another highly tested theory that so far has never been falsified, the temperature of the material cooled. This is a simple rule of thermodynamics that says when you expand a volume of stuff that stuff will have its temperature lower. This is also tested here on Earth. Your refrigerator and air conditioner work on this exact principal.
    After a few minutes of the inflation the temperature and density was low enough that the ability for hydrogen to fuse together stopped which led to a mix of about 74% hydrogen and 26% helium.
    The universe was still pretty hot and dense. To hot for the hydrogen and helium to be able to hold onto any electrons.
    About 380,000 years after the initial inflation the temperature of the universe dipped to about 3,000 degrees Kalvin. Electrons could then stay connected to the the nucleus of the hydrogen and helium atoms.
    At this point the material became electrically neutral which allowed the photons to travel essentially ignoring the matter.
    The universe continued to expand but at a much slower rate then it started at.
    The Hydrogen and Helium gas that was spread through out the universe started to gravitationally collapse. This caused the first stars to form. Massive stars the burned very hot and very quickly.
    Through stellar nucleosynthesis the hydrogen and helium started forming heavier forms of matter. The ratios that we observe perfectly matching what would be predicted by the periodic table and theory of stellar nucleosynthesis.
    At the end of a stars life, because of processes we understand very well. The stars under go novas and supernova which is responsible for not only spreading the elements that formed in the star over its life time but also more and new elements that the star during its life time couldn’t produce because the energy levels within the star were not high enough.
    These heavier elements, that because of the electromagnetic force, could then combine into things we call molecules via the rules of chemistry.
    These more complex clouds of gas, still mostly hydrogen and helium, would continue to collapse down but now along with stars being able to be formed planets and other bodies could as well.
    Chemistry allows large and more complex molecules to form some molecules that we classify as biological molecules but is still just chemistry.
    This continues using not only the material provided by the stars but also energy from these starts to form the first self replicating molecules.
    Because the process of self replication isn’t a perfect process, ie it doesn’t happen the same way every time, these replicating molecules could change over time.
    Sometimes the changes would cause some molecules not to be able to replicate any longer.
    Eventually, and at least once, these biological molecules combined enough into a system we would recognize as life.
    This for Earth happened about 3.6 billion years ago. Only a few hundred million years after the Earth and less then a billion years after our sun formed.
    Evolution is the science that explains how this first set of life evolved into all the life we see now and see evidence of in the past.

    Not all life reproduces the same. Human reproduction is a highly faulty system. Humans can’t be classified as the most evolved life on our planet either. All we can say is that we have the most complex brain that we have discovered so far.

    no “spontaneous generations of organisms” needed. Our biology is a product of chemistry which is a product of physics which results from the rule of physics within our universe

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    A big mistake made by one is comparing a system with parts of another system. Organisms are systems, their organs are parts of a system. The vital cycle is applied over the system, not over the organs, since that organs does not change shapes.

    And what is that word salad supposed to mean?
    That a babies heart and an old man’s heart are the same shape? If so I’ll point out that they are only the same shape as much as a babies body and a old person’s body are also the same shape.

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    If the vital cycle came from Cosmos, as suggested by Matrix/DNA, it is or was applied over astronomical systems, not astronomical bodies as parts of that systems. Any rational astronomical model need including the calculations of changing shapes.

    Meaningless word salad. What changing shapes? If you want to talk cosmology and most of astronomy the only real shape is a sphere and that is dictated because of gravity.

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    The big problem for doing these calculations is knowing that astronomical systems had two processes of formation, and we does not know who is first generation or later generations.

    No! Your ignorance of the science leads you to this incorrect conclusion. Your incorrect conclusions lead you to make patently false claims that pretty much so far are not falsifiable only because what you are saying makes no sense. It would be like instead of saying “5 + 3 = 8”, I said something like “Banana + red = electricity”. Actually that statement is still better then what you’ve said because it actually makes claim with a result that can be compared to what we observe.

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    Then, we are getting lots of images of distant astronomical systems and bodies and the first worry is the classification: it is planet, a dwarf, pulsar, a star? Several bodies have not fit the definition of any group and is becoming common scientists saying… ” This goes against what was believed, meaning that we need fix something in our theory…”

    Care to provide a reference to anything like that? Even so science doesn’t know everything. It probably will never know everything. Science takes new observations and tries to make sense of it by either fitting it into the current theories or coming up with new theories. But while you’ve claimed there are “thousands of evidences against the mainstream model” you have not presented even ONE here.

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    For me, at Matrix/DNA Theory there is no such problem. It is like an alien specie observing humans, each time that see a new human creates a debate: is it a child? a teenager? or maybe an elderly? But, okay, it is good trying to know the most about each object. That’s why I kept the Matrix/DNA cosmological model by 20 years only at my pocket, as an exercise of curiosity, observing the data coming from the mainstream, and making comparisons with my model. My real interest is the Matrix/DNA formula applied over here and now, not cosmology where I can’t do nothing.

    You have no model. All you have nonsensical ramblings. You have so far shown no problem with the main stream models beyond you saying there are problems and that your model, that really doesn’t amount to more then a jumble of thoughts you’ve put down in a web site that make no sense given all that we know regarding science and reality.

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    The big problem is what this Standard Model is suggesting about ours origins and meanings of our existence.

    Science isn’t about philosophical meanings of our existence. What it is about is the meaning behind why we think natural systems behave as they do. It is about predicting what those natural systems will do in the future given a starting condition. The big bang model doesn’t tell us anything about where the hot dense state of the universe came from. It just states that given it started from that state this is how we predict it evolved. But not in a biological evolved definition but the more simple definition of evolve which means something like unfolding. Trying to gleam philosophical meanings of our existence isn’t the realm of science. It is the realm of philosophy and religion and there are other internet forums you can go to if you want to discuss those but mind you making pseudo science statements to try to back up your philosophical claims isn’t going to help you with people that understand and care about both science and philosophy.

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    It is suggesting that our existence is not supported by the Cosmos, we are like intruders virus and the meaning of the Cosmos existence is not our meaning.

    The physics of our universe allow for life to exist. Life isn’t an intruder in our universe. It didn’t come from outside of our universe. Another poor analogy that you are putting forward.

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    This world view is modeling the mind of humans which is building this civilization based on it. And Matrix/DNA world view is suggesting that the Humanity health is in needs that is time for fixing the Standard Model, before to be too much later.
    So, my question is: What happens at 4 billions years ago that changed cosmological evolution in the way that the systems ancestor had no life’s cycles and the systems after that event have life’s cycles?

    What happened 4 billion years ago is that the Earth formed and was capable of supporting life as we know it. It doesn’t say that life else where in the universe didn’t exist before then. We can say that life couldn’t happen at 380,000 years after the big bang because the universe lacked the appropriate complex material to form life. Not only do you need the right molecules for life to start but you need other conditions for life, as we know it, to start. For life as we know it that includes liquid water. If I was able to pop around the universe or even just our galaxy I’d expect to find life as we know it to be in many different places. I’d expect that the origins of some of those life forms to be older then 4 billion years and some to be younger. I’d expect that we’d probably even be able to find a system where an abiogensis event is occurring right now for the first time on some new planet.

    First rule of replacing an existing theory is to know everything you can about the existing theory. You seem to not even have a pop science level of understanding of the formation of the universe let alone biology. No surprise you have questions about how it could happen. But instead of going to the Q&A board and asking questions, getting answers and learning you’ve come here and announced that the science you don’t understand at all is wrong.

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    But, what is wrong thinking that this Universe is a kind of egg where is occurring a process of genetic reproduction of the thing that was existing before the Big Bang?

    You can imagine whatever you want, but if you want to support a scientific argument, you need to present a useful model supported by significant evidence. You haven’t shown anything like that.

    The fact is that I am in the last 30 years, looking for any real proved fact that debunks this idea and nobody shows it. So, why isn’t it possible?

    If I say there is an invisible elf in my backyard how do you debunk the claim?

    You’re making a very common type of claim, one that is often seen in pseudoscience. The burden of proof rests on your shoulders. It is up to you to present a falsifiable argument, which you have yet to do. I’d suggest looking up “argument from ignorance.” And as others have pointed out, your arguments demonstrate extremely limited knowledge about the relevant scientific subjects, so if you don’t see the problems with the arguments you’ve presented, you either haven’t tried very hard to learn, or you just aren’t willing to listen to anything that contradicts you.

    Just as one example:

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    The big problem is what this Standard Model is suggesting about ours origins and meanings of our existence. It is suggesting that our existence is not supported by the Cosmos

    That’s fundamentally wrong. If our existence wasn’t supported by the Cosmos, we wouldn’t be here posting about this!


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    Then, I am in better situation than you. I have ours hands, faces, everything in our body and ihis biosphere, for accounting as proof of my models. You have nothing here at Earth’s biosphere as proof for yours models, and lots of word salad that are convincing the ingenious students.

    Again you have presented absolutely nothing here. If you have a problem with some main stream science topic then ask questions and learn. Some times the answer might be “We don’t know” and that is fine. We don’t know everything and probably never will. The main stream models you criticize have great predictive power. Your “model” isn’t even a model. Just because you call it a model doesn’t make it one. A model defines and quantifies a particular aspect of the natural world. This definition and quantification allows use to make predictions that can be tested. For example special relativity predicts that the faster you go relative to another observer the less time you will experience. It predicts this very precisely giving us the formulas that tell use how much time difference we should see if we run tests. Decades later after the theory was first presented we finally got the technology to test it and when we did the results matched prediction to a very high degree.

    We test physics all the time. We test chemistry all the time. We test biology all the time. If you have a problem with something in one of those realms perhaps you should ask but you still haven’t presented even one piece of evidence against the main stream model.

    Finally when I use the term word salad I use it in direct response to a statement you’ve made. Others can come along if I’m just totally misunderstanding your point. I point out where definitions are ambiguous. I point out where you use specific terms in a manner that they have no meaning in. That is word salad. If you don’t understand something that doesn’t make it word salad. So if you want to coopt terms for use in your idea then you have to define what you mean by those terms. Seeing as you haven’t that leaves your references to things like the electromagnetic spectrum having properties that they don’t based on arbitrary groupings that we humans use is a prime example of your word salad. Please tell me what word salad do you think I or any other person here has used?

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    You don’t have the human being as account for proof of yours Cosmic model because you have separated Universal Evolution into two blocks – Cosmological Evolution and Biological Evolution – without any evolutionary link between them. You took the long natural chain of causes and effects that comes from the Big Bang and left it outside the Earth’s surface, because the final product of this chain here and now does not fit with yours model as the producer. Then, for explaining our presence here you need fulfill the gap between the two blocks with something non-existent, as the magic randomness. Wake up now for not finishing like yours gurus writing books explaining how something could came from nothing, and put words salad there… Or Stephen Hawking seeing non-existents black ghosts monstrous cannibals of galaxies in the sky…

    First off when we talk about evolution in cosmological and astronomical terms we are talking about a very different thing then biological evolution.
    The former refers to how the basic structures within the visible universe formed.
    The later refers to how life changes over time because of changes in genetics that work on a population scale. Process like inheritance, random mutation, horizontal gene transfer, sexual selection, etc.
    The genes of a human are different then the genes in annelids (worms) from 500 million years ago. We share some of the basics. Both us and them use the same DNA tool kit. The chemistry is the same. But our evolution is very different.
    There are planets out there in space that have been around much longer then the Earth. The oldest one we have discovered is over 12 billion years old. This planet will be around in another 12 billion years. We don’t know if the Earth will be. Maybe the Earth will survive our sun’s red giant phase. Something we know will happen because the science of stellar nucleosynthesis is well established and matches observation perfectly. We’ve witnessed many super nova. We even have before and after pictures of a star that has gone nova.

    Take your alien example. Show an alien with intelligence a number of pictures of a human from fetus to death and there is no reason why they couldn’t put them in the order even not knowing our biology. With stars we not only have all the pictures but we know the physics as well. We know why our sun will not ever go super nova. We know our sun will stop fusing elements at carbon. This isn’t guessing and word salad. This is science.

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    Do you know the worst thing about this? Is that, I think, it is possible that yours models are right. I have no proof for debunking them, so, I should be mystical, not rational, if merely saying that they are impossible.

    I don’t say the current main stream models are “right”. I, and any good scientist out there, would say that the current models are “The current best explanations for the current observations we have”. Science does a lot of disproving and what we are left with is models that have the best predictive power in their domain of applicability. Even then sometimes we use models that are less accurate because they are more simple to use. A prime example of this is Newton’s law of gravity. We know it isn’t right. We know GR provides more accurate results. But we still use Newton’s law of gravity because in its domain of applicability it works very well and is much easier to use.

    Again how, specifically, is something that one of the main stream models says ‘impossible”. Give us an actual specific example and perhaps we can explain it to you. Not that not being able to explain something doesn’t make it impossible.
    No one can explain exactly what the stars that came before our sun and provided the raw material for our solar system were. But we can make some general statements about it. No one can say exactly how life started here on Earth. Even when we get to the point where can produce new “life” in the lab we still won’t be able to say exactly what happened here on Earth. We can say there seems to be no barrier to life starting given normal physics and chemistry.

    to be continued….

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    The first rational reaction when we have no proofs for debunking a specific world view, is the Einstein’s reaction: “One doesn’t need to prove that his theory is right. Only that it makes sense.” So, the absence of proof is not enough for repealing a theory – that’s why it has the name of theory. The problem is that yours model does not make sense. I am asking a unique real proved fact that debunks my models and till now, nobody brought it over the table. Only bringing on another hypothesis and theories.

    Do you mean Einstein’s quote of “No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong.”
    And that is true. Science isn’t about proofs. Math is about proofs.
    Science is the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
    A scientific theory is very different then the common term theory.
    A theory is defined as “an idea used to account for a situation”
    A scientific theory is defined as “is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not “guesses” but reliable accounts of the real world.”

    The problem with your idea is were possible I’ve pointed out where it isn’t supported by observations we have of the real world. Much of what you’ve said can’t be falsified because you don’t make any testable claim.
    For example physics predicts that hydrogen when excited should have a very definite spectral signature and when we test it it matches exactly with prediction.
    Our understanding of physics and elements was so good that elements were predicted before they were discovered. These predictions included much more then the spectral signature of the element. It included things like how it would react with other elements. The big bang model predicted that there should be a near uniform glow in the sky from the point where the universe cooled so that the hydrogen and helium could capture electrons. This glow should match a thermal black body spectrum of ~3000 calvin red shifted due to the expansion of the universe. Decades later this was discovered and that is what is called the Cosmic Microwave Background. There have been many attempts to disprove it but it is still the best explanation we have for the observation.

    The main stream models do make sense. It is apparent they don’t make sense to you but if you actually spent the effort to learn what the models predict and why you might actually start to understand them.
    I have shown you already where your idea doesn’t match reality. I’ve provided that definition of “scientific theory” which your idea doesn’t even come close to matching. You don’t even have a hypothesis at this time because you haven’t clearly defined a problem, stated how your idea answers that problem with some data in a manner that other people can test if your idea.

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    I know it does not means that these models are right, I only ask the mortal fact for putting the models into the garbage and be free for searching on another direction, because I am here after the final thru – if it exists or not.

    I think I understand what you are saying so I’ll address what I think you are saying after I repeat your statement in my own words.
    “I think the main stream models are restricting the investigation of other ideas that may explain what we observe better”
    This is often the argument of someone with a new idea. They think the existing models are wrong and because their idea goes so much against the existing model that people are unwilling to investigate their idea.
    The actuality is 2 fold. First is the current models are the best current explanations for a reason. That is because they’ve survived everything that has been thrown at them. They produce the best and most accurate predictions.
    The second problem is most often someones idea has fatal flaws that stop anyone from wanting to investigate it further. If someone presents an alternate explanation for some aspect of the natural world and the very premise that the new idea is built upon is based on a misunderstanding of something we can stop right there. It would be like someone told you that they could beat you in chess in 5 moves and you were a grand master at chess you might sit down with them. If they immediately move a pawn diagonally like it was a bishop or a queen then you have ever right to just get up and walk away. No matter what the rest of their game is the reality is they aren’t playing chess. I’m sorry but what you are doing isn’t science.

    If you wish to say something like “The big bang model can not explain the abundances of hydrogen and helium in the universe and my idea is a better explanation” you’d already have a problem because it does explain it. Your idea might explain it better but the false initial statement won’t help your presentation.

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    After all yours bombardment, I still prefer the Matrix/DNA model when making comparisons with the Standard model because the few facts that I really know pointings out that it makes more sense. Matrix/DNA is something from something and something always back… Again, I am on better situation than you, because I have not broken my head on a wall of Nothing… at least, yet.

    Once again you have not provided a SINGLE problem. The closest thing you’ve come to is making it clear that you don’t understand what the current science is. What even basic cosmology says and how physics, chemistry and biology work.
    Your idea doesn’t explain the origin of the universe any better then me claiming the universe came from magical universe creating pixies.

    So come up with an actual problem with an actual model and how your idea answers it and matches the observations we have.

    Let me ask you some a simple question.

    WF7 What is the ages of the universe as predicted by your idea?
    WF8 What evidence do you have that your idea about the age of the universe is correct?
    WF9 How can some interdependently test you ideas prediction of the age of the universe?

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    You: DNA is a molecule specific to biology, and not universal there… While X and Y chromosomes… it is far from a universal system.”

    Okay, I have not explained the first picture. There is a universal formula that organizes matter into systems, from the Big Bang to humans and now, consciousness. Like there is a biological formula that is common to all biological systems, called DNA. This formula is a natural complete system totally unknown to human kind, because since Bertalanffy with the General Theory of Systems did not knew the formula and what really is a natural system, couldn’t develop this field which failed into cybernetics and artificial systems.
    The formula is composed by any body under the force or process called life’s cycle ( which came first from waves of light which propagates by this process, but I will not go such further now). Under life cycle a body differentiate from other without it because it has “self-dynamics” ( sorry problems with English here). So the body propagates into time and space being transformed into new shapes, like light. At the picture, the arrows are the aspect waves, for the dimension time, while the bodies “Fs” are the aspect “particle” for dimension space.
    Under life’s cycle a human body change every second when a cell is substituted, but for easing we will talk about only seven shapes: blastula, fetus, embryo, child. teenager, adult and cadaver. Usually we see these shapes aligned linearly, but if we encurve the line making a sphere, we got a natural, complete, perfect, closed system ( totally in thermodynamic equilibrium, a perpetuum motor, the most perfect possible machine, and would be eternal if have not the increase/decrease of energy, when entropy degenerates the system: such state was only reached by matter when evolution arrived to the first building block of astronomical systems. And it failed as biological systems, which are opened systems.
    A system is composed by parts, each one performing a specific function ( the Fs). Since that each part is a shape of a unique body, and we can see the general aspects of each part, we can conclude which is each function: the dust of a prior system as degraded mass rotates building an axis and from here a vortex. The dust is entering the vortex (F1)which is mixed with energy in increase state coming with F5. This works like our kitchen machines ( liquefators?) with three levels of density and which creates bubbles high energetically and heavy elements, which are expelled from the vortex into space ( F1 is the generator womb). We have the shape of germ (F2) till embryo ( for biological systems, is not a seed yet). For astronomical bodies ( of the first original astronomical systems or building blocks) this was the nucleus. This bubble cross the event horizon composed by surrounding dust (part of F7) that works like amnion/placenta and this dust is aggregated upon the nucleus making concentric spheres (F2, F3) with different densities due the space becoming cold. Now it is a seed, seed for plants,animals galaxies, maybe universes and so on… At the building block of astronomical systems, F3 was the first planets. Here humans are teenagers).
    The internal germ feeds on this “placenta” eating it from inside to outside. At the first astronomical body, this creates pression of gas which need be expelled and the body develops giant volcanoes. At human bodies this is the age of 14,16, when begins to ejaculate, at cells systems, mitochondrias begins expelling ATP, and so on…
    Crossing gravity this expelled matter falls into the magnetic lines of the spiral going internally towards the nucleus, because it is a closed system. This is F5, comets at the sky or spermatozoon at human beings, or pollen for plants, or RNAt and RNAm for cells, etc.
    So, inside the sphere has a circuit, where runs the flow of energy/information of the system. When the flow arrives to F4, it is shared, one part going to adulthood ( here begins entropy) and other part going to the nucleus. So, this lateral internal branch carries energy while it is increasing, that is what is mixed with degraded mass, creating a new cycle. Observing the picture we find that F4 performs the male function ( volcanoes was the astronomical shape of what evolutionary became “penis”. F1 performs the female function, so, the system is hermaphrodite ( like his first reproduction as biological system called primordial cells, which were hermaphrodite). The flow F1 to F4 to F1 is half-face, has only half part of informations from the whole system ( in fact it has all informations, but half part is dubbed, so, the left half part is dominant, then, it i expressed. It is the non-biological ancestor of chromosome Y; the flow F1 to F7 to F1 have also informations of the right face, so, total informations, it is the ancestor of female chromosome X. When the system was divided into two bi-sexual symetric faces, developed this newtoniam mechanical sideral astronomic process of sexual reproduction – which was a development coming from the change of pions between neutrons and protons at atoms systems. I have discovered thousands of marvellous details in this formula, I described only one, and here there is no space for continuing.
    There were two processes for astronomical systems formations, like there were for cell’s system formation. This formula should be about the first process, which does not happens anymore. So, this was the building block which is equal the building block of DNA. While at biological systems their DNA is inside, at the astronomical system, its DNA was the whole system. I am composing how this DNA was the template for atoms. It is Universal. Under evolution also. It is the “Matrix”. I think this Matrix emerged at this Universe in shape of quantum vortex inside bubbles which was bits-information working as the first universal genes coming from the unknown system that triggered the Big Bang. When these vortex disappears they leave a wave of light, which has the code for life’s cycles in shape of seven different frequencies.
    Now I need yours help for destroying this theory that is a kind of virus that I got in Amazon jungle and it is eating my life and I can’t resist to it because it makes to much rational sense for me and everyday I am discovering new evidences suggesting that it exists, but, I am a skeptical, I do not believe in it. Debunk it and you will save my life. Please, only a unique real known proved fact that debunks everything here. Thanks. Any question? Cheers…
    Oh… it is missing the most important part; Matrix/DNA is saying that Humanity is 8 billions genes building together with other trillions of genes spreaded in this Universe, the final body made off consciousness substance in the shape of the matrix formula that will be the exactly reproduction of the thing that created this Universe. From the Big Bang to the Big Birth. So… you are the son… Congratulations.

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    You:WF7 What is the ages of the universe as predicted by your idea?

    I never thought about that, I accept 13,7 billions ( I said it in a post above. See b) Calculating the reverse pathway of universal evolution, along 13,7 billion years.) But, let me do now some calculations by my naturalistic method. The embryogenesis pf a human takes 9 months. I think that its consciousness appears at 6 or 8 months. Let’s say… seven. Since that in this Universe is occurring a normal natural process of genetic reproduction from some system that must have consciousness also ( if it appeared here, is because it was there); and since that natural processes here are fractals of universal processes or macroscopic fractals…Considering that the Universe today have 13,7 billions years ( yours model says it) and consciousness is emerging just now, it means that 7 months for humans is equal 13,7 billions years. to the Universe. So, 13,7 shared by 7 = 2, each human month is 2 universal billion years. Humans have birth 2 months after getting consciousness. So 2 x 2 = 4 and 13;7 + 4 = 17.7 … I will bet that this Universe will die, will be discarded as placenta, at the age of 17,7 billions years. Let’s wait till there, if I lose I will pay the beer, but if you lose you will pay, okay?

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      To WayneFrancisYou:WF7 What is the ages of the universe as predicted by your idea?

      I never thought about that, I accept 13,7 billions ( I said it in a post above. See b) Calculating the reverse pathway of universal evolution, along 13,7 billion years.) But, let me do now some calculations by my naturalistic method. The embryogenesis pf a human takes 9 months. I think that its consciousness appears at 6 or 8 months. Let’s say… seven. Since that in this Universe is occurring a normal natural process of genetic reproduction from some system that must have consciousness also ( if it appeared here, is because it was there); and since that natural processes here are fractals of universal processes or macroscopic fractals…Considering that the Universe today have 13,7 billions years ( yours model says it) and consciousness is emerging just now, it means that 7 months for humans is equal 13,7 billions years. to the Universe. So, 13,7 shared by 7 = 2, each human month is 2 universal billion years. Humans have birth 2 months after getting consciousness. So 2 x 2 = 4 and 13;7 + 4 = 17.7 … I will bet that this Universe will die, will be discarded as placenta, at the age of 17,7 billions years. Let’s wait till there, if I lose I will pay the beer, but if you lose you will pay, okay?

      There is the problem. Your idea is just a mash of bad philosophy that has no support with the reality we have around us.
      The main stream models make specific claims that can be tested and falsified. It can be tested now not in billions of years. It can be tested in different ways too. For example we should not see many objects that we think are older then 13.8 billion years old. Surprise we don’t. There are some outliers but these are few and far between and is probably an indication that there is something going on that we haven’t accounted for making the object appear older then the universe rather then the objects actually being older.

      You seem to put a very strong importance on human consciousness but there is absolutely no indication that there is any tie between consciousness appearing here on Earth and any physical process in the universe.
      Let us travel down this road. Now you say our universe will end in 4 billion years and has a direct linear relationship to human pregnancy.
      A typical human pregnancy lasts for ~265 days and that we are at about day 206 because you believe consciousness arises at about 6-8 months.
      First you need to define “consciousness”. I’ll do that for you
      Consciousness
      the quality or state of awareness, or, of being aware of an external object or something within oneself. sentience, awareness, subjectivity, the ability to experience or to feel, wakefulness, having a sense of selfhood, and the executive control system of the mind

      The fact is a fetus and even a baby doesn’t have a sense of self. It isn’t until about 15 months – 2 years after being born that a typical human has a sense of self. But lets ignore this fatal misunderstanding of the science you have proposed.

      Supposedly our universe has already gone through the first 3 phases of blastula, fetus, embryo or at best according to you.
      I’ll point out that your misunderstanding of the science here is also greatly flawed.

      A fetus is AFTER an embryo. In fact a blastula is an embryo. The blastula occurs on about day 3. This means the firsts major transition, according to you, should have been at about 200,000,000 years. Yet recombination occurred at 380,000 years. You are off by 3 orders of magnitude. In human pregnancy terms that that is about 7 minutes after fertilization not day 3. Yet we see no major transformation of that 1 cell at that point.

      The universe became matter dominated at about 9.8 billion years. What major significance happens at pregnancy at a 21 weeks of pregnancy? OH look nothing major.

      Why would the universe be tied to the birthing cycle of 1 species on our planet. Our babies are considered to be born under developed. Ideally pregnancy would last longer for the babies sake but the human body wouldn’t cope that well. Human evolution has a very valid explanation for this. No cosmology needed.

      There is no connection between the universe and our species birthing cycle. To say there is with what you have provided as examples is absurd and very bad cherry picking of data since you can’t even get the order of categorization we have arbitrarily given to different points of pregnancy. You have to explain why you leave out some stages and how someone could tell which “stages” are important and which ones are not.

      No one can prove you wrong because you don’t want to learn about reality and when told about it you don’t seem to want to accept reality. You turn around and repeat the same thing over and over ad nauseam.

      You can’t claim you’ve spent 20-30 years researching this all and then get basic 9th grade biology wrong. At best you’ve spent 20-30 years concocting a fantasy version of our universe in your head disregarding any reality that conflicts with your fantasy. The only one that can make you understand that your idea isn’t based in reality is you and the only way you can do that is actually learning about nature as it actually is. Not your false distortions of reality.

      You seem to be trying to develop your own version of astrology which is another pseudoscience that has absolutely no real observations backing it up. Good luck with that. I’m sure there will be those that will believe you but then there are people out there that will believe anything.

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      Why humans? Why the human reproductive cycle?
      Why not elephants? (2 years) or fruit flies (hours)?

      Humans have only been around for a few hundred thousand years. What was the universe’s timeline before then? Say, when dinosaurs roamed the Earth, or bacteria?

      How does the universe evolve in the same way creatures do? Do stars gestate baby stars? Do baby stars inherit blueprints of their “parent” stars?

      The real problem here, is the lack of distinction between an analogy i.e. superficial similarity, and an actual model.

      If analogies were actually models, then I could say that the Sun is the same shape as an orange, therefore they must have the same history and physics. I could then go on to say that the Sun, by extension, has seeds, and grew on a cosmic tree.

      Do you see how superficial similarities do not inform us about underlying structures?

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      Quote Originally Posted by DaveC426913 View Post
      Why humans? Why the human reproductive cycle?
      Why not elephants? (2 years) or fruit flies (hours)?

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      You: “Why humans? Why the human reproductive cycle? Why not elephants? (2 years) or fruit flies ( hours)?

      Dave, for understanding the Matrix/DNA basics, and why humans, please, first see these images at this adress:http://theuniversalmatrix.com/pt-br/artigos/?p=8409 ( please, I am not trying to sell my website, but I have tried attaching here the images from Google-images and didn’t get it).

      Ok. The shape of a brain plus the “medulla” is the same shape of an ovule being penetrated by a spermatozoon still with its tail outside. Merely coincidence? Nature built the architecture of “fecundation” for giving birth to a new baby, which is a “new natural system”. I suppose that the human head means for Nature the same that an egg/womb. Inside this “egg” is being generated a new shape of the natural universal system called “consciousness”, or “mind”. Inside this head-womb-egg, the ovule ( the spherical part of the nervous system) is being fecundated and still keeps the extension as the spermatozoon’s tail. Same process, same artist, same target = same final image, scene, picture. But…”maybe”… yet.

      Is it mere coincidence that the two shapes are equal? Or it means that inside Nature there is a natural force working as specific function for all natural systems, and like an artist, this force models matter with its “personal style, does not matter what new environmental configuration and new material disposable ingredients?

      Nobody knows. There are two alternatives here, maybe more. And a human makes his/her selection. The preferred alternative is dependable how was hard-wired his/her brain. So, a brain educated by the Standard model will say: “It is not even a coincidence, the two images have nothing to see in common.” Other brain, creationist, will see God here. My salvage brain nurtured between the jungle and the books from naturalist philosophers is skeptical and experimentalist, then I am testing all possible alternatives. The alternative that it is merely coincidence is being built and tested by the Standard model. Someone need testing the other alternative, and I am not seeing someone doing that, so, I need do it.

      Why humans and not elephants? Because the most complex natural system that I am seeing here and now( this region of the Universe and this time) is consciousness. Elephants have a little bit of it, humans have more of it. And the most complex system known just now is probably, the top of universal evolution here and now. The top state of a fetus is the nearest shape of the generator’s shape.

      Yours own body began with an unique event: the explosion of a sepermatozoon’s membrane at the center of an ovule. A microscopic big bang. Then two different but symmetrical strands of two DNA’s tried to align at the exactly position and I see this as “chaos” because each female gene searching its male counterpart producing chocks, conflicts, heating the environment. Everything here mimics the beginning of a new natural system inside the egg “universe” at 13,7 billions years ago, if you considers the theoretical Physics of the Nobel Prize Yukawa about the nuclear gluon. Following came the morula, the blastula, which mimics the shapes of the first galaxies… is it mere coincidence again? Maybe. Or is there a universal pattern? I don’t know, both are rationally possibles alternatives. If it is a pattern, the embryogenesis of consciousness at human beings must be a microscopical embryogenic process mimicking the embryogenesis of the thing that carries on ( or put outside his body) this universal “egg” where is being nurtured a natural system that is its/his/her reproduction. Welcome to the Matrix/DNA alternative, but does not believe in it, it is under testing against real facts.

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      This is fun but not even consistent. Are you saying there is a pattern which pre-exists matter? A pattern which like fractals works at all scales? A pattern is a nice idea but is it what you are claiming.? Otherwise In your description what comes first?

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      When we realize that patterns don’t exist in the universe, they are a template that we hold to the universe to make sense of it, it all makes a lot more sense.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DaveC426913 View Post
      Humans have only been around for a few hundred thousand years. What was the universe’s timeline before then? Say, when dinosaurs roamed the Earth, or bacteria?

      Dave, this question could be answered if you change the idea of “abiogenesis” by the idea of “astronomical embryogenesis”. It is the possibility that all history of abiogenesis ( maybe 3,5 billion years) is merely the history of reproduction of an astronomical system at Earth’s surface. Which operates in a scale of millions, billions years. This astronomical embryogenesis history finished when evolution here arrived to the primate ancestor of humans. At this point began another history of reproduction, a reproduction of another system hierarchic superior to galaxies, bringing on also its more complex bits-informations.

      But… why the “embryo” here is so different in relation to what should be an embryo of an astronomical system? It is due “severe mutation”. Why severe mutation?
      The answer is very complex and need a entire book, but I will try a few resumed details:

      a) The astronomical “mother” was formed with only two states of matter and at free space. Solid and gaseous. Her baby here is being made at “closed space” and made off with three states of matter, adding the liquid state. The liquid state transformed the initial Physical forces and laws into Chemistry, exactly “organic Chemistry”. This change in environment, space, material ingredients, causes severe mutations.

      b) While at human embryogenesis the genome of the parents is transferred to their offspring entirely closed inside an envelope (chromosomes), at astronomical embryogenesis the “genome” is transferred fragmented into bits-information, expelled free in space and different times. I think that these bits-information are photons produced by emissions of radiation by stars and others bodies, where each photon accounts for a specific bit of the astronomical system. These photons were the non-biological ancestors of modern genes. When these bits reach a planet with good conditions, they penetrates its atoms and drive these atoms to novelty, new combinations, trying to reproduce the system where they come from. Since they arrives at different regions of that planet and at different times, this will produce smalls packets of information, these packets can be joined producing larger packets and so on. This is the cause of diversification of species and the transformation of species.

      There are more important details, but no time and space here for it. And if you try to think about it, certainly you will see details that I have not observed yet. Never forget that this is merely a “non-scientific theory”, does not believe in it. Cheers…

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      This is fun but not even consistent. Are you saying there is a pattern which pre-exists matter? A pattern which like fractals works at all scales? A pattern is a nice idea but is it what you are claiming.? Otherwise In your description what comes first?

      Profloater< I ask you, please, think in this way:

      There is a pregnant woman. Inside her womb is working a kind of formula, called DNA, building an embryo. The DNA came from parents that exists outside and before the womb. They were existing before the micro big bang caused by the explosion of an spermatozoon envelope inside an ovule.

      Now, try to remember all image and scenes narrated by the Standard model about the universe’s origins. Make comparisons between the two situations. Try to see the womb – only the womb – as being what we call “Universe”. While the fundamental elementary particles of the Standard model could be bits-informations, primordial ancestors of the genes.

      If you saw similarities, it is possible that they are merely coincidences. But it is possible also that it is not coincidence – could be the repetition of a pattern.
      My skeptical, agnostic mind suggests that I keep considering all possibles hypothesis, since that they appears “rational” to me. So, I will test this hypothesis about a pattern till the hell. The Standard model is testing the other hypothesis, where there is no pattern. Thanks God. Someone is doing something good.

      “If” it is a pattern, there was a kind of DNA as hidden variable working at a universal natural system formation going to be the embryo, – which is not the same that “the universe’s formation”. The Universe is merely the womb.

      We found a formula that has been worked very well… as a “cosmic Matrix/DNA”… “if” there was a cosmic DNA. So, is possible that we have the womb, the DNA… it is missing the woman, the parents. It is missing the natural system that belongs to an evolutionary species that lives beyond the Universe, and was existing before the Universe. This mysterious natural system could be a microscopic atom containing all mass of all galaxies, as suggested by the Standard model. It is rationally possible. But, I think, the Matrix/DNA is also rationally possible alternative. The “God” alternative should be possible to my reasoning if this “God” is a natural system, non-supernatural, not a magician, because I have not seen the effects of such God inside this universal womb. But… I am a monkey-man arriving to New York coming from the Amazon jungle so my brain is not developed for to grasp everything, and maybe, creationists have a better developed brain that is able to perceive more of this world. It is possible.

      I have stopped my investigation inside the limits of the space universe and about only the time after the Big Bang, I resist to all temptations for looking for the woman, because I know that my brain could not understand it: it is missing more sensors, I need to develop the actual sensors, etc. Besides that, just now there are billions of my human brothers being tortured under severe conditions of life and I need work here and now trying to produce something that diminishes this torture. No time for building theoretical metaphysics.

      But you do yours choice, of course. If you build a good metaphysics – who is that woman, her species, etc. – I will appreciate knowing it. Cheers…

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      Quote Originally Posted by DaveC426913 View Post
      How does the universe evolve in the same way creatures do? Do stars gestate baby stars? Do baby stars inherit blueprints of their “parent” stars?

      Dave, for us the “Universe” is a super-agglomerate of agglomerates of galaxies. These galaxies are species of the evolutionary tree, they are ours ancestors like bacteria and reptile are. Maybe these galaxies are fossils, maybe they are still active. Like our human bodies have more aliens cells than our own cells, we exists inside a big body or fossil of our ancestral. It is not the Universe neither galaxies that are evolving, but, the evolution is about a universal system inside it. The top of this evolution here – in this specific region of this Universe – and at this time, is the shape of this universal system called “human being”. Maybe at other regions there are most evolved tops.

      You asked “How does the universe evolve in the same way creatures do?”. I think that the question should be the opposite: How does the creatures evolve in the same way the universe do. Because if one mimics the other, is the most recently that mimics the older.

      Remembering that I also does not know the final thru, the Matrix/DNA models are suggesting that the Universe is not a magician, than, it can not create new informations from nothing. It only can do things with the informations that it received at his birth.
      Then, the universe was made by a method, a process. It is the unique process that the Universe knows, that it has informations for. So, never the creatures inside this Universe could be created by other process than the process that itself was created.

      The problem is that creatures does not evolves as the Universe evolves, because the Universe stopped evolving when its evolution arrived to the shape of galaxies. I say it because the building block of galaxies is the most perfect possible machine/organism/system that is possible doing with matter. It was the supreme goal of all matter, reaching the thermodynamic equilibrium in good conditions of existence. It was a paradise for our ancestors. It is a perfect closed system, isolated from everything else, closing the door to evolution. If you see the shape of the Matrix/DNA as the template of galaxies, you will understand lots of things.

      But, then, above the galaxies and maybe above the universe, there was a superior natural system, with a weapon, a force, which can be measured by us as “entropy”. Maybe this mysterious system is who gave the initial informations to the Universe by normal genetic process. Due entropy, our ancestor in the sky failed at planets surfaces, as biological systems. These are opened systems, opening the door for continuing evolution.

      But remember: this is merely a theory: does not believe in it. I don’t believe in it. Which not means that I will not testing it. Cheers…

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      You missed this simple yes/no question, TheMatrixDNA:

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      Later posts suggest that you are the author of the ATM idea, so this may not be an issue. To confirm this my first question.
      IF1: Are you the author of this ATM idea, TheMatrixDNA?I will point out a couple more errors in your OP.

      • Any evidence against the mainstream model is not support for your model.
        Your model is not the only alternative to the mainstream that exists (just read the ATM section )!
      • No evidence can support a model that does not exist.
        A model in science is not an idea in someone’s head and their thoughts about what that idea means, even with pretty pictures. A model in science produces predictions that can be tested against the real universe. That involves mathematics.

      Scientific terminology exists for a reason – so that people can agree on what things are!
      A star is … a star!
      Hydrogen (and a bit of helium, etc.) collapsed to form the first generation of a kind of astronomical body called a star!
      Light waves are … light waves!

      I will also emphasis what other posters have mentioned – rather incoherent chunks of text is not science .

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      …But remember: this is merely a theory: does not believe in it. I don’t believe in it. Which not means that I will not testing it. Cheers…

      TheMatrixDNA: That is a strange statement – are you saying you are here to waste our time with someone else’s fantasies that you do not believe in?

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      Quote Originally Posted by WayneFrancis View Post
      Your idea is just a mash of bad philosophy that has no support with the reality we have around us.

      My Almighty Pink Unicorn! Wayne, how you could making a post totally wrong? Do you really think that Matrix/DNA suggests that this Universe has consciousness, or is going to have it? That I am doing comparisons between human consciousness and universe’s consciousness? That the evolution of the womb ( this universe) should be equal the evolution of the embryo inside it (a natural system that has been evolving since the Big Bang) ?! That’s absurd.

      For yours sake: The Matrix/DNA is suggesting that human’s head works as the egg/womb where is being generated a new shape of the universal natural system, called “mind”, or consciousness. The Universe is other thing, it is the womb/egg where has been developed all prior shapes of this system. Consciousness was sleeping at atoms,dreaming at galaxies, began to wake at biological systems, and is lifting up at humans, that’s the suggestion from Matrix/DNA
      xxxxxx

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      You seem to put a very strong importance on human consciousness but there is absolutely no indication that there is any tie between consciousness appearing here on Earth and any physical process in the universe.

      If it seems to you, it is totally wrong. Of course, there is no physical process in the universe revealing some influence or effect from consciousness. You can be sure about that because there is no physical process in biological embryogenesis revealing action or presence of consciousness. As it is here, it is there.

      Any definition of mind. consciousness, any theory about, is not scientific statement because this field belongs to Neurology which still did not find how neurons produces thoughts, or how neurons correlates with thoughts. Universe and thoughts are abstracting things and you made this big exercise of comparison between them rolling lots of data?! I never had time for…

      If you understand as “evolution of the universe” as the evolution from elementary particles to atoms to galaxies I agree, but it stops here. Matrix/DNA is suggesting that this line of evolution stopped at galaxies for natural corrections like the DNA has mechanisms for self-corrections. Then, the old evolution came back continuing through biological systems. If you want to do comparisons between the embryogenesis of the universe and embryogenesis of consciousness you never will got it, because the evolution of “this universe” arrived to morula, or at least till blastula, and stopped it.

      The age of the Universe is an issue that I never did and I can’t deal with now, I have no time for, and I don’t see any useful product from this issue, I made the post about it tempestivally answering yours question, without thinking, and in a hurry made some mistakes, as not considering the time of that correction and if will have some acceleration at the end of the process. Sorry.

      But, thanks by the contribution. You have made me to remember that I need open a new chapter in my website for researching this issue. And you have furnished some informations that I didn’t have.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TheMatrixDNA View Post
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      You: “Why humans? Why the human reproductive cycle? Why not elephants? (2 years) or fruit flies ( hours)?Dave, for understanding the Matrix/DNA basics, and why humans, please, first see these images at this adress:http://theuniversalmatrix.com/pt-br/artigos/?p=8409 ( please, I am not trying to sell my website, but I have tried attaching here the images from Google-images and didn’t get it).

      The rules of the board require you to answer a question here not push us off to your site so that your back link count goes up.

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      Ok. The shape of a brain plus the “medulla” is the same shape of an ovule being penetrated by a spermatozoon still with its tail outside. Merely coincidence?

      Coincidence? It looks as much like that as it does a Chupa Chups. Our brain is a product of our evolution. Cephalopods can be highly intelligent too but their brains is shaped very differently. Why do you Stop with the medulla? What is wrong with the rest of the nervous system? Our brain looks like a lot more like coral or vise versa.

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      Nature built the architecture of “fecundation” for giving birth to a new baby, which is a “new natural system”. I suppose that the human head means for Nature the same that an egg/womb. Inside this “egg” is being generated a new shape of the natural universal system called “consciousness”, or “mind”. Inside this head-womb-egg, the ovule ( the spherical part of the nervous system) is being fecundated and still keeps the extension as the spermatozoon’s tail. Same process, same artist, same target = same final image, scene, picture. But…”maybe”… yet.

      You now seem to be putting a lot of weight in pareidolia. This is like when you see a shape in the cloud or stars or other natural feature. Most often, but not always, this is an issue of perspective in that it would look totally different from another direction. For example with your sperm and egg example if the sperm was as big in relation to the egg as the medulla is in relation to the brain then the egg would not survive fertilization. Also an egg is not the shape of the brain. It is round like a ball and the brain is not. The human egg has the texture of a luffa not a smooth creased surface.

      So you are seeing what you want to see. So the connection you’ve made is very weak and again has absolutely no evidence for it besides in your brain.

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      Is it mere coincidence that the two shapes are equal?

      They are not equal. This sizes are wrong. The shapes are wrong. The textures are wrong.

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      Or it means that inside Nature there is a natural force working as specific function for all natural systems, and like an artist, this force models matter with its “personal style, does not matter what new environmental configuration and new material disposable ingredients?

      You are cherry picking what you consider evidence then running with it. All the while ignoring everything that goes against your idea.

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      Nobody knows.

      The argument “nobody knows” is intellectually dishonest. Just because we don’t know with 100% certainty anything, because we are after all only human and not omniscient, doesn’t mean that 2 ideas hold equal probability of being correct.
      On the one had we have science with independently verifiable statements. On the other hand we have nothing but conjecture on what you think looks similar to something else. I can’t be certain that gravity will be around tomorrow but I am as close to certain about that fact as I can be. It doesn’t mean that someone like you who says we’ll be able to fly tomorrow using only the power of our minds is just as likely to be correct.

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      There are two alternatives here, maybe more. And a human makes his/her selection. The preferred alternative is dependable how was hard-wired his/her brain. So, a brain educated by the Standard model will say: “It is not even a coincidence, the two images have nothing to see in common.” Other brain, creationist, will see God here. My salvage brain nurtured between the jungle and the books from naturalist philosophers is skeptical and experimentalist, then I am testing all possible alternatives. The alternative that it is merely coincidence is being built and tested by the Standard model. Someone need testing the other alternative, and I am not seeing someone doing that, so, I need do it.

      No you aren’t. You are not doing anything remotely like being skeptical. That which is asserted with no evidence can be dismissed with no evidence. You have NO evidence. You have nothing that can be independently verified. You have no guidelines in which we can decide what structures in the universe should look like other structures. Why don’t we see giant eggs and sperm in space? Why don’t planet have that shape? I can tell you why. Gravity! I can tell you why our nervous system is shaped like it is. Evolution! The answer is of course more detailed but you don’t seem to want to learn. I’ve simplified the history of the universe for you and you seem to have ignored that so I wouldn’t have much hope if I tried to explain the evolution of the nervous system but here is a picture of some other creatures brains.
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      They don’t all look like sperm and an egg. I don’t think even the human brain does. What they do look like is that they all share a common basic structure, that has nothing to do with a sperm and egg beyond all those creatures using sperm and eggs in their reproductive cycle.

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      Why humans and not elephants? Because the most complex natural system that I am seeing here and now( this region of the Universe and this time) is consciousness. Elephants have a little bit of it, humans have more of it. And the most complex system known just now is probably, the top of universal evolution here and now. The top state of a fetus is the nearest shape of the generator’s shape.

      No, again you are cherry picking. Humans are not more evolved then elephants. There are a handful of other animals we know have a sense of self. That have consciousness. More consciousness then even a 1 year old human baby.
      Tell me what makes your understanding of your sense of self better then a Magpie’s sense of self?

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      Yours own body began with an unique event: the explosion of a sepermatozoon’s membrane at the center of an ovule. A microscopic big bang.

      NO! you don’t even understand the big bang. The big bang wasn’t a explosion of stuff. It wasn’t even an explosion. It was just space time inflating. There is no more mass/energy in the universe today then there was at the point of the big bang. In human terms that means you and I would have the mass of 1 egg and 1 sperm. I don’t know about you but I’m pretty sure that the combined material of the egg and sperm I came from doesn’t equal 100kg

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      Then two different but symmetrical strands of two DNA’s tried to align at the exactly position and I see this as “chaos” because each female gene searching its male counterpart producing chocks, conflicts, heating the environment.

      It doesn’t matter what you see. What matters is what you can define, quantify and what predictions you can make. I’m sure this all makes sense in your head but given the level of your scientific understanding I’m not surprised it doesn’t actually match what actually happens in our reality.

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      Everything here mimics the beginning of a new natural system inside the egg “universe” at 13,7 billions years ago, if you considers the theoretical Physics of the Nobel Prize Yukawa about the nuclear gluon. Following came the morula, the blastula, which mimics the shapes of the first galaxies… is it mere coincidence again? Maybe. Or is there a universal pattern? I don’t know, both are rationally possibles alternatives. If it is a pattern, the embryogenesis of consciousness at human beings must be a microscopical embryogenic process mimicking the embryogenesis of the thing that carries on ( or put outside his body) this universal “egg” where is being nurtured a natural system that is its/his/her reproduction. Welcome to the Matrix/DNA alternative, but does not believe in it, it is under testing against real facts.

      This is the closest you’ve come to actually almost coming upon something science has known for a while. The fact that a sphere is the most simple 3 dimensional shape. It has the smallest surface area to volume. Even so most cells are not spherical. Not even all eggs are spherical. Galaxies, even early ones are not spherical either. Their shapes are dictated by the in falling material and the physical law that the material must maintain its angular momentum.

      I notice you totally ignored the gross misunderstandings you seem to have about gestation and cognitive development and everything else I’ve pointed out. This is called confirmation bias. Your refusal to accept reality when it doesn’t fit with your idea.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TheMatrixDNA View Post
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      Is it mere coincidence that the two shapes are equal?

      Yes.

      Like it is mere coincidence that the sun and an orange are the same shape.

      Same shape does not mean same origin.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TheMatrixDNA View Post
      My Almighty Pink Unicorn! Wayne, how you could making a post totally wrong? Do you really think that Matrix/DNA suggests that this Universe has consciousness, or is going to have it? That I am doing comparisons between human consciousness and universe’s consciousness? That the evolution of the womb ( this universe) should be equal the evolution of the embryo inside it (a natural system that has been evolving since the Big Bang) ?! That’s absurd.

      You are the one saying that our now, development of our species consciousness within our universe, is some how related to when, you thought, consciousness developed within individual humans. So yes I think it is absurd and I think your suggestion is too. Hence I’m pointing out just some of the fatal problems with your idea.

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      For yours sake: The Matrix/DNA is suggesting that human’s head works as the egg/womb where is being generated a new shape of the universal natural system, called “mind”, or consciousness. The Universe is other thing, it is the womb/egg where has been developed all prior shapes of this system. Consciousness was sleeping at atoms,dreaming at galaxies, began to wake at biological systems, and is lifting up at humans, that’s the suggestion from Matrix/DNA
      xxxxxx

      Even catering for English not being your first language that statement makes absolutely no sense.

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      If it seems to you, it is totally wrong. Of course, there is no physical process in the universe revealing some influence or effect from consciousness. You can be sure about that because there is no physical process in biological embryogenesis revealing action or presence of consciousness. As it is here, it is there.Any definition of mind. consciousness, any theory about, is not scientific statement because this field belongs to Neurology which still did not find how neurons produces thoughts, or how neurons correlates with thoughts. Universe and thoughts are abstracting things and you made this big exercise of comparison between them rolling lots of data?! I never had time for…

      You really have no grasp on any science it seems. I’ll have talk to one of my very close friends who is a senior professor doing active research on cognition and consciousness that apparently you don’t think she is actually doing science. Lets see if what she does classifies a science.
      1) investigate some aspect of the natural world. a
      2) formulate testable ideas that can and are independently verified or falsified. a
      3) design and perform experiments that can be repeated by others. a
      4) collect data from the experiments. a
      5) present the data so that it can be independently reviewed. a
      6) present a conclusion that may or may not support your initial idea. a

      You’ve skipped steps 2-5. What you’ve put up on your site is not data. It is baseless assertions and there is a big difference.

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      If you understand as “evolution of the universe” as the evolution from elementary particles to atoms to galaxies I agree, but it stops here. Matrix/DNA is suggesting that this line of evolution stopped at galaxies for natural corrections like the DNA has mechanisms for self-corrections. Then, the old evolution came back continuing through biological systems. If you want to do comparisons between the embryogenesis of the universe and embryogenesis of consciousness you never will got it, because the evolution of “this universe” arrived to morula, or at least till blastula, and stopped it.

      First off I’m not suggesting anything about your idea beyond the fact that it is based on very bad understandings of various scientific fields and doesn’t match what we observe in the universe.
      You are the one that is claiming there is a link between biological evolution, human gestation and the the evolution of the universe. You don’t define exactly how anyone besides you can identify what links there are and how anyone would be able to identify those links.

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      The age of the Universe is an issue that I never did and I can’t deal with now, I have no time for, and I don’t see any useful product from this issue, I made the post about it tempestivally answering yours question, without thinking, and in a hurry made some mistakes, as not considering the time of that correction and if will have some acceleration at the end of the process. Sorry.

      No, you can’t just brush stuff away when it shows your idea is flawed. You are making claims that the big bang is something very different then it is. One of the things the big bang model lets us predict is the age of the universe. Thus your “better” explanation should also explain it.
      You can’t just blame this on being hurried either. Your web site has the same problems with its “cycles”. Again before you can replace or put down something you need to understand that something. You clearly do not have an accurate understanding of the scientific fields you are pontificating on. Thus any conclusions you base on your faulty understanding are most likely also going to be faulty. You made very specific claims based on your idea that I showed would also indicate we should, if your idea is correct, find other correlations. In a sense as presented your “idea” makes predictions that there are similar stages between the evolution of the cosmos and human fetal development. I’ve pointed out that this is not the case. That on both sides there are pretty significant points that don’t have a correlation with the other side. Thus your idea as presented is falsified. Welcome to the scientific method.

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      But, thanks by the contribution. You have made me to remember that I need open a new chapter in my website for researching this issue. And you have furnished some informations that I didn’t have.

      I am still actually waiting for answers to most of my direct questions.
      I am still actually waiting for just ONE of the thousands of evidences you have against the mainstream model. Not your hand waving based on your ignorance of the mainstream models.

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      Yes. Like it is mere coincidence that the sun and an orange are the same shape.

      Sun and oranges? Shapes are mere coincidence? Impossible!

      Plants were the first biological systems produced by this astronomical system to which Earth belongs, the Milk Way. Animals are later generations. We know that firsts species are more “equal” to an ancestor than the laters. So, plants as the first “visible” biological systems, must mimics the shape and functions of their ancestor Milk Way… Let’s see the evidences:

      The Milk Way is a spiral, the three of oranges seems a spiral.
      Milk Way has a central “trunk” and arms. The tree of oranges have a trunk and branches.
      Milk Way have planets, the colors can be blue, green, etc. The tree has leaves.
      Milk Way has yellows luminous stars attached to the arms. The tree have beautiful yellow oranges attached to the branches…
      And our star have a very caloric relationship with the tree through photosynthesis…

      My friend, don’t you think that is too much coincidences? And look to each leaves, again the fractal of the tree drawn there… As the tree keeps the fractal, the shape of its creator. The probabilistic calculus shows that Nature could create here billions of differents things, shapes and atomic combinations, but, no, it choose just to do the daughter like the mother….
      Before going to the jungle and educated by the Standard model – which taught that biological evolution has nothing to see with cosmological evolution and shapes here are merely product of chance, I believed in my teacher. But the continuous bombardment of patterns made me began to suspect that, again, human beings were suffering of more faith than reason.

      Oranges emerged inside the Milk Way and made by the Milk Way. Who else? Did you see someone bringing on something from outside the Milk Way? All informations for oranges and its trees were here and neither the Milk Way is a magician able to create informations from nothing ( only God and the ruler of the Standard model, the Almighty Absolute Randomness, are able to do magics). The astronomical building block was LUCA – the Last Universal Common Ancestor of all biological systems. Daughters in Amazon jungle have the same shape of their mothers. Where you live is different? So, what’s the problem that you at least does not experiment the alternative of natural patterns?
      You can see the face of LUCA in this image:

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      Still outstanding after a week, TheMatrixDNA !

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      Later posts suggest that you are the author of the ATM idea, so this may not be an issue. To confirm this my first question.
      IF1: Are you the author of this ATM idea, TheMatrixDNA?I will point out a couple more errors in your OP.

      • Any evidence against the mainstream model is not support for your model.
        Your model is not the only alternative to the mainstream that exists (just read the ATM section )!
      • No evidence can support a model that does not exist.
        A model in science is not an idea in someone’s head and their thoughts about what that idea means, even with pretty pictures. A model in science produces predictions that can be tested against the real universe. That involves mathematics.

      Scientific terminology exists for a reason – so that people can agree on what things are!
      A star is … a star!
      Hydrogen (and a bit of helium, etc.) collapsed to form the first generation of a kind of astronomical body called a star!
      Light waves are … light waves!

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      Your understanding of how we have come about the current mainstream models seems a bit flawed.

      Of course, it is flawed, but, everything you have said here as informations about the Standard model I already knew long time ago. The Matrix/DNA is about natural systems which needs all scientific fields knowledge and expertise, and I can not get everything alone.That’s the reason I am here at this forum: searching more informations about the whole theory, trying to get explanations of deep Physics concepts and deep Mathematical calculations that I couldn’t get alone, searching any established “natural” fact or scientifically proved “natural” law, mechanism, process that could debunk the whole Matrix/DNA’s models and those scientifically collected data that are evidences or could helping to develop the Matrix model. I think that yours rewards loosing your time with me is that you have the opportunity to see the world and the mainstream model from the eyes of people educated and trained at the crude and yet virgin Nature of the jungle, which is a good laboratory at opened sky, producing different neuronal connections and hard-wired brain while you have had a strictly urban life and artificial laboratories with powerful technological instruments as extensions of our brain’s sensors. You will think that I have nothing useful because you need data experimentally proved and I didn’t it because I have no access to scientific laboratories but lots of suggestions for scientific experiments. But, please, if you still think that will lose yours time – and it is possible – I will understand and I don’t want prejudice you.

      [QUOTE=WayneFrancis;2254626]It isn’t that someone just came up with a model and “well this model say things would have happened this way” and then just believe./QUOTE]

      I have read this many times when watching these debates between materialists and creationists. Matrix/DNA works as a kind of “third view” with different propositions that neither materialists neither creationists knows. Matrix/DNA is and will be attacked by both sides. Matrix/DNA was built accidentally, after observing Nature in the jungle and learning which ways Nature works at that slice of biosphere. These observations suggested ideas that were being accumulated and finally resulting into a big theoretical model which includes the external Nature beyond the immediate space and time. Now we need data from this external Nature to check if the theory is agreement with reality. All data that I have obtained from scientific books were predicted by the models and are in agreement with them. Remember that I didn’t said that the Standard model would be wrong when compared with Matrix/DNA model. Most part are in agreement, but, Matrix/DNA is suggesting many things that is missing in the Standard model.

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      English doesn’t seem to be your first language but even so much of that last main paragraph makes no sense to me.

      Yes, I am naturalized American citizen but the native language is Portuguese and some native languages of the jungle. I have tree big problems when trying to communicate explaining the Matrix/DNA world view: a) Despite the fact that since my infant times I read books in English and learning it alone or schools, i never wrote in English, then,it prejudices all Matrix/DNA details when communicating them by writhing. But I am still learning day by day and if you teach me something that I weiting wrong, I will be grateful;2) Matrix/DNA models are suggesting many new natural mechanisms, processes, objects, that have no name yet in any language, so, we need creating new words. For instance, the models suggests the state of astronomical bodies that is not a quasar or a pulsar how it is defined by the Standard model, but since there is no name for these objects and they are in between the definitions of pulsar and stars, I have used the name of pulsar for that body, which causes lots of confusion by people trained by the Standard model.

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      First is that the solar system is about 4.6 billion years old. The material that makes up our solar system is billions of years older and formed from stellar processes from earlier stars.

      My friend, we will lose time here if you continuing to repeat common informations about the Standard Model that I know since my infant times. Now I am reading lots of material about general relativity, the Hubble constant, the Physics of the Nobel Prize Hideki Yukawa and of course, quantum theory and String M-theory. Matrix/DNA models were built with data from hundreds of books got at universities’ libraries and my job at earlier times was helping students making theses, monographies, of several different fields. You are saying that because I wrote:”How Nature – the state of the world, the state of the Solar and Milk Way systems – at 4 billion years ago, built every properties of biological systems at Earth surface?” It means how was the evolutionary state of this solar and galactic systems after a cosmological evolution that began with the Big bang at 13,7 billion years ago. I was thinking that Matrix/DNA models are suggesting the presence of more natural forces and elements as hidden variables in relation to Oparin’s model for reduced atmosphere at 4 billions years ago at the life’s origins first moments, which were missing at Urey/Miller’s experiments and that’s the cause that Urey did not get amino acids able to perform the next steps towards proteins. Based on Matrix/DNA models we need to repeat the Urey experiments with different processes and changing/adding some ingredients.

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      We can now even detect the planets around many stars and tell you a lot about them..

      I am following this issue every day, carefully. But the interpretations from astronomers for images and data measurements sometimes are not accordingly to Matrix/DNA models. The real data fits the models, what is different are the interpretations of these data. For instance, those planets free in space without orbiting any star are a problem for the Standard model that was not predicted it, but it fits very well predictions from Matrix/DNA models registered 30 years ago. That’s the reason I can’t abandon Matrix/DNA putting them in the garbage, they are right in relation too many things that were not included into the Standard model.

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      So what problem is there with the current theories on the formation of our solar system?

      It is being difficult to me to define the formation of our solar system after Matrix/DNA models advice that there were two process for astronomical systems formation and I don’t know what process was applied for formation of this system. The fact that is missing some shapes of astronomical bodies in our solar system (pulsar, quasar, etc.) indicates that it is from second generation, which process is similar to the Standard Model. The differences between the two models about solar system formation are more related to magnetic fields, forces and ingredients modeling the system at its formation, etc. But since I had no time for to much cosmology and I am developing hundreds of researches at another fields as Biology, Neurology, Medicine, etc., because matrix/DNA is about natural systems and these systems have a little bit of each scientific field, these models are not complete yet.

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      Why do you not think that normal chemical processes could not form the biochemistry of the early Earth?

      The normal chemical process has formed the biochemistry of the early Earth, what does not mean that yours theoretical model about normal chemical process has formed it. You know that are gaps in it and I think they will be fulfit when completing the model. Matrix/DNA model has translated the real chemical processes better than yours model, I think.It happens that the suggestions of Matrix/DNA, despite it seems to work well, are very “weird” from mine and yours point of view. For instance I am now studying the Sun’s magnetic field from Matrix/DNA different perspective because the models are suggesting there are evolutionary relations between the known fact that the Sun’s magnetic field flips at each 11 years cycles was the ancestor mechanism that developed into the mechanism at genetic level that possibilities the signals switches putting genes in or off. It is very “weird”, very complex, but it makes sense. From where Nature got the mechanism for these signals and commands at genetic level, accordingly to the Standard model?

      In the jungle we see life by a different perspective than yours at urban habitat and a naturalist philosopher arrive to a conclusion that Pasteur was right and Linus Pauling wrong, Must have a kind of vital principle acting inside the earlier organic chemistry, coming from the mistakenly called “non-living world”, which still is a strong and determinant hidden variable unknown by modern Science. Matrix/DNA suggest what is it, how it is, and where it came from. Biological systems are merely a continuing from cosmological evolution with severe mutations because astronomical systems were formed and composed with only two principals states of matter – solid and gaseous ( of course, there are the electromagnetic, the quantum, states, etc.) – and biological systems were formed and composed with three states, adding the liquid state, which had multiplied the power of Physical processes resulting into chemist processes. Forgetting the differences of formation and composition by Physics and Math is the cause that that chemistries and biologists are not grasping the whole picture of earlier life’s formation.

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      Why do you not think that normal biological processes could not account for the diversity of life from its being on the Earth?

      The normal biological processes accounts for the diversity of life, of course, what does not account is the theory of the Standard model about normal biological processes. When we see the novelty suggested by Matrix/DNA models about how are normal biological processes we see clearly that a theoretical model in fact works. For instance, and about diversity of life and reducible complexity, we get more explanations adding the mechanisms and processes that has in normal biological processes but the Standard model has not solved them. Take LUCA from the Earth’s surface and put it in the sky: you will see how all complexity are reduced to LUCA. Keep LUCA at Earth’s surface and you have no way for escaping from the assertions of the people from the intelligent design. Break the external membrane of spermatozoa and spreading the genes into different spaces and scales of time and you will get the great diversity of the offspring from a unique common ancestor. So, Matrix/DNA models can help the real Science and you.

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      What does DNA have to do with anything in regards to the formation of solar systems?

      I didn’t said that, it would be absurd!

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      Why do we care about the “human sexual reproductive system”? Why is it more special then the reproductive system of any other life form on Earth, many of which share traits because of common ancestry.

      Neither I care. I mentioned it because it is the most known evolutionary shape of this system by human beings and here I am talking with the life form called human beings.

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      Of course, it is flawed, but, everything you have said here as informations about the Standard model I already knew long time ago. The Matrix/DNA is about natural systems which needs all scientific fields knowledge and expertise, and I can not get everything alone.That’s the reason I am here at this forum: searching more informations about the whole theory, trying to get explanations of deep Physics concepts and deep Mathematical calculations that I couldn’t get alone, searching any established “natural” fact or scientifically proved “natural” law, mechanism, process that could debunk the whole Matrix/DNA’s models and those scientifically collected data that are evidences or could helping to develop the Matrix model. I think that yours rewards loosing your time with me is that you have the opportunity to see the world and the mainstream model from the eyes of people educated and trained at the crude and yet virgin Nature of the jungle, which is a good laboratory at opened sky, producing different neuronal connections and hard-wired brain while you have had a strictly urban life and artificial laboratories with powerful technological instruments as extensions of our brain’s sensors. You will think that I have nothing useful because you need data experimentally proved and I didn’t it because I have no access to scientific laboratories but lots of suggestions for scientific experiments. But, please, if you still think that will lose yours time – and it is possible – I will understand and I don’t want prejudice you.

      You keep talking about “natural” this and that. Science is about the study of the natural world. I and others have pointed out basic scientific observations that are at odds with your idea and you seem to either ignore it and just repeat the same thing over and over.
      Statements like “yet virgin Nature of the jungle, which is a good laboratory at opened sky, producing different neuronal connections and hard-wired brain while you have had a strictly urban life and artificial laboratories with powerful technological instruments as extensions of our brain’s sensors.”
      means nothing. If you have a claim that observation you make some how different then what other people make then you’ve got a problem. You seem to be claiming that you are privileged to knowledge that others are not. If you have data you believe others have missed you need to explain how others can obtain said data. Otherwise you are appealing to Revelation. Science relies on all observers being able to make the same observations. If you think you’ve made observations because you’ve been in a “Jungle” and some how you have clearer skies then people in the city I’ll point out the scientist make observations all over the world and make observations with equipment that reveals much more information then you’ll ever be exposed to.

      [QUOTE=WayneFrancis;2254626]It isn’t that someone just came up with a model and “well this model say things would have happened this way” and then just believe./QUOTE]

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      I have read this many times when watching these debates between materialists and creationists. Matrix/DNA works as a kind of “third view” with different propositions that neither materialists neither creationists knows. Matrix/DNA is and will be attacked by both sides. Matrix/DNA was built accidentally, after observing Nature in the jungle and learning which ways Nature works at that slice of biosphere. These observations suggested ideas that were being accumulated and finally resulting into a big theoretical model which includes the external Nature beyond the immediate space and time. Now we need data from this external Nature to check if the theory is agreement with reality. All data that I have obtained from scientific books were predicted by the models and are in agreement with them. Remember that I didn’t said that the Standard model would be wrong when compared with Matrix/DNA model. Most part are in agreement, but, Matrix/DNA is suggesting many things that is missing in the Standard model.

      No. You can make baseless claims like that. Science has observation which can be independently made and verified. Creationist and you have hand waving. There is no “external nature”. If you aren’t talking about the natural world, which is what science does, you are talking about a supernatural world which isn’t science. Even when scientist talks about things like the multi-verse much of the time it isn’t science. When they make claims that can be tested then they are in the realm of science. Like I’ve pointed out before claiming your idea gives all the same answers as the current models doesn’t make your idea science. You have to show HOW your idea arrives at the same answer. For example you’ve made a claim that the first galaxies shapes are the same as a human egg because of some fractal system word salad. The main stream models explain the shape of the galaxies by how GR dictates how gas clouds will collapse under their own gravity. Observations show that the first galaxies are elliptical not spherical like a human egg. The main stream models can start with a gas cloud and demonstrate how the material produces elliptical galaxies. They can show how these Elliptical galaxies will continue to collapse and form into spiral galaxies. They show how various galaxies colliding with each other form the many different irregular galaxies we see. You have “Hey that looks like a human egg to me! There must be a deep philosophical meaning behind it” The science is quantifiable, reproducible and falsifiable. Your idea is new age pseudoscience.

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      Yes, I am naturalized American citizen but the native language is Portuguese and some native languages of the jungle. I have tree big problems when trying to communicate explaining the Matrix/DNA world view: a) Despite the fact that since my infant times I read books in English and learning it alone or schools, i never wrote in English, then,it prejudices all Matrix/DNA details when communicating them by writhing. But I am still learning day by day and if you teach me something that I weiting wrong, I will be grateful;2) Matrix/DNA models are suggesting many new natural mechanisms, processes, objects, that have no name yet in any language, so, we need creating new words. For instance, the models suggests the state of astronomical bodies that is not a quasar or a pulsar how it is defined by the Standard model, but since there is no name for these objects and they are in between the definitions of pulsar and stars, I have used the name of pulsar for that body, which causes lots of confusion by people trained by the Standard model.

      Then invent a new name and more importantly define it. Explain it in detail. Tell us what these new objects are. What are their properties. How are they formed. Where can we expect to see them.
      You keep claiming there are thousands of evidences against the main stream models and now many new object but you have not, even once, provided any examples.

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      My friend, we will lose time here if you continuing to repeat common informations about the Standard Model that I know since my infant times. Now I am reading lots of material about general relativity, the Hubble constant, the Physics of the Nobel Prize Hideki Yukawa and of course, quantum theory and String M-theory. Matrix/DNA models were built with data from hundreds of books got at universities’ libraries and my job at earlier times was helping students making theses, monographies, of several different fields. You are saying that because I wrote:”How Nature – the state of the world, the state of the Solar and Milk Way systems – at 4 billion years ago, built every properties of biological systems at Earth surface?” It means how was the evolutionary state of this solar and galactic systems after a cosmological evolution that began with the Big bang at 13,7 billion years ago. I was thinking that Matrix/DNA models are suggesting the presence of more natural forces and elements as hidden variables in relation to Oparin’s model for reduced atmosphere at 4 billions years ago at the life’s origins first moments, which were missing at Urey/Miller’s experiments and that’s the cause that Urey did not get amino acids able to perform the next steps towards proteins. Based on Matrix/DNA models we need to repeat the Urey experiments with different processes and changing/adding some ingredients.

      Sorry I don’t believe you. Here is why I don’t believe you. You provide no evidence. Your statements show a clear misunderstanding of even basic cosmology that I’ve already pointed out. Coming back and saying you understand what the main stream models say since you where a baby is highly unlikely. If you were some type of savant then I’ll point out that it is useless because what you communicate to others isn’t a great understanding of what you are writing about but a huge fantasy world that is in gross opposition to the natural world the rest of us live in.

      If your idea will succeed in producing life in experiments then tell us how and get ready to accept your Nobel prize. What “ingredients” need to be change/ added? What processes need to be incorporated. Tell us how so that we can independently verify your claims. The problem is your claims are completely without evidence thus I go back to this quote
      “that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence”
      Until then you are just shoveling more pseudoscience.

      I honestly don’t care who or what you read. If you come here with accurate statements about the mainstream models, 1 or more problems with the said model and an actual model that will provide answer(s) then I’m on board with you. But you don’t. You don’t have a model and repeating that you do over and over without any evidence of an actual model makes you look like a liar that is just trying to get attention. You have not provided even on problem you have with the main stream model. This would be in the form of a well defined statement like “x is observed but no model currently explains why. My model explains x by the following …” followed by a detail explanation of how your model explains the observation. If you model, at any point, requires something that can not be measured and observed, then you’ve stepped out of the realm of science and into the realm of the supernatural and it isn’t falsifiable. Lastly so much of your posts show gross ignorance of the actual science. Dropping terms and names like GR, the Hubble constant or any scientists name doesn’t lend credibility to your argument.

      To be continued…

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      I am following this issue every day, carefully. But the interpretations from astronomers for images and data measurements sometimes are not accordingly to Matrix/DNA models. The real data fits the models, what is different are the interpretations of these data. For instance, those planets free in space without orbiting any star are a problem for the Standard model that was not predicted it, but it fits very well predictions from Matrix/DNA models registered 30 years ago. That’s the reason I can’t abandon Matrix/DNA putting them in the garbage, they are right in relation too many things that were not included into the Standard model.

      How? Why do you think the main stream models can not explain rogue planets? Why do you think the main stream models can not explain even rogue stars in intergalactic space. The main stream models have not problem with planets being ejected from their host system. This can occur in a number of different ways. Interaction between 2 solar systems can easily eject a planet from its host system. Interaction within a solar system between planets can also eject a planet from its host system. This is a prime example of your ignorance of the science. I’ll also reiterate that gasp in some model isn’t evidence for your model. Saying your model explains something doesn’t mean your model explains something. An actual well define explanation that is falsifiable can be an explanation for something. But you haven’t provided that. All you’ve provided is “These objects look the same to me….coincidence? I think not!” Which is an appeal from and to ignorance.

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      It is being difficult to me to define the formation of our solar system after Matrix/DNA models advice that there were two process for astronomical systems formation and I don’t know what process was applied for formation of this system. The fact that is missing some shapes of astronomical bodies in our solar system (pulsar, quasar, etc.) indicates that it is from second generation, which process is similar to the Standard Model. The differences between the two models about solar system formation are more related to magnetic fields, forces and ingredients modeling the system at its formation, etc. But since I had no time for to much cosmology and I am developing hundreds of researches at another fields as Biology, Neurology, Medicine, etc., because matrix/DNA is about natural systems and these systems have a little bit of each scientific field, these models are not complete yet.

      More word salad and avoidance. You say our solar system is missing pulsar, quasar, etc. Here again is an obvious misunderstanding of the science. There is absolutely no reason why we should ever find a pulsar or quasar as part of our solar system. In fact it would be near impossible for us to be in a solar system that has one of those objects because they are not very conducive to life. We have no reason to think that a solar system should have a G class star half way through its lifespan in the main sequence should be paired up with a pulsar or quasar. We could find a system like that which happen by interactions of multiple systems that allowed the 2 stars to form separately but eventually become gravitationally bound to each other. It would be more surprising to see planets as we would expect those planets to be ejected during the process. But even then you might find planets involved depending on the distances and masses involved. But if there was a planet then life is highly unlikely because of the amount of ionizing radiation that the pulsar would emit.

      So another question for you.
      WF10 Why if your idea predicts pulsars and quasars in many solar systems do we not observe this to actually be the case?
      WF11 Why does your idea predict pulsars and/ or quasars partnered with stars that are still well within the main sequence?

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      The normal chemical process has formed the biochemistry of the early Earth, what does not mean that yours theoretical model about normal chemical process has formed it.

      Please reform this statement. Perhaps you should use Google translate and use your native language.

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      You know that are gaps in it and I think they will be fulfit when completing the model. Matrix/DNA model has translated the real chemical processes better than yours model, I think.It happens that the suggestions of Matrix/DNA, despite it seems to work well, are very “weird” from mine and yours point of view. For instance I am now studying the Sun’s magnetic field from Matrix/DNA different perspective because the models are suggesting there are evolutionary relations between the known fact that the Sun’s magnetic field flips at each 11 years cycles was the ancestor mechanism that developed into the mechanism at genetic level that possibilities the signals switches putting genes in or off. It is very “weird”, very complex, but it makes sense. From where Nature got the mechanism for these signals and commands at genetic level, accordingly to the Standard model?

      First you have provided what problem you have with, what I’m guessing is biological system. Second you have not stated what that actual problem is and how your idea solves that problem.

      But you have made a bit of testable statement and claim.
      You say the sun’s magnetic field causes genes to turn on and off.
      WF11 How does the our sun’s magnetic field cause genes to turn on and off.

      What, precisely, within the a gene is reacting with the magnetic field of the sun. What genes are affected. What determines what genes are effected. What changes should we detect with the magnetic field flips? How do the genes react to the sun’s magnetic field but not the hundreds of other magnetic fields life on Earth experience? What patterns within biology should we detect on a 11 year cycle from the corresponding sun’s solar cycle? What data do you have to support your claim.

      Note this is a formal question and I would actually like an answer, even if it is I don’t know, to this question before any of my other outstanding questions

      To be continued…

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      In the jungle we see life by a different perspective than yours at urban habitat and a naturalist philosopher arrive to a conclusion that Pasteur was right and Linus Pauling wrong, Must have a kind of vital principle acting inside the earlier organic chemistry, coming from the mistakenly called “non-living world”, which still is a strong and determinant hidden variable unknown by modern Science. Matrix/DNA suggest what is it, how it is, and where it came from. Biological systems are merely a continuing from cosmological evolution with severe mutations because astronomical systems were formed and composed with only two principals states of matter – solid and gaseous ( of course, there are the electromagnetic, the quantum, states, etc.) – and biological systems were formed and composed with three states, adding the liquid state, which had multiplied the power of Physical processes resulting into chemist processes. Forgetting the differences of formation and composition by Physics and Math is the cause that that chemistries and biologists are not grasping the whole picture of earlier life’s formation.

      Again gross misunderstanding of even basic science. There are 4 states of matter as defined by science. Solid, liquid, gas and plasma. These are very different then the fundamental forces. I have no idea why you would mention “quantum” at this point either beyond thinking using terms, even if it has no relation to what you are trying to discuss, will some how confuse anyone here into thinking that either we don’t understand something or in the hopes that you’ve used a term that might be applicable.
      The rest of your statement, like most of your posts, means absolutely nothing to anyone but you.

      What do you mean by “earlier life’s formation”? Are you talking about abiogenesis?

      It would help if you stop jumping around with topics. Pick one problem with one area of science.
      State your understanding of what the relevant main stream model says about that problem.
      State your idea’s solution to that problem in a manner that is falsifiable by others.

      When you do that we can then discuss if your idea actually rises to the definition of science.

      I’m also curious to know what conflict between Pasteur and Pauling you think modern science has wrong?

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      The normal biological processes accounts for the diversity of life, of course, what does not account is the theory of the Standard model about normal biological processes. When we see the novelty suggested by Matrix/DNA models about how are normal biological processes we see clearly that a theoretical model in fact works. For instance, and about diversity of life and reducible complexity, we get more explanations adding the mechanisms and processes that has in normal biological processes but the Standard model has not solved them. Take LUCA from the Earth’s surface and put it in the sky: you will see how all complexity are reduced to LUCA. Keep LUCA at Earth’s surface and you have no way for escaping from the assertions of the people from the intelligent design. Break the external membrane of spermatozoa and spreading the genes into different spaces and scales of time and you will get the great diversity of the offspring from a unique common ancestor. So, Matrix/DNA models can help the real Science and you.

      Let us get things straight here. If you are going to use scientific terms then you have to use them in the context that science used them.

      First Evolution accounts for the diversity of life. It does not cover Abiogenesis which is more a field of complex chemistry.

      When you bring in the “standard model” into the discussion you are confusing the issue.
      The standard model is a theory concerning the electromagnetic, weak, and strong nuclear interactions. It is ultimately responsible for how chemistry works. You do NOT have to bring it up when talking about biology. It doesn’t add anything to the discussion of either evolution or abiogenesis. Those 2 fields work fine with the standard model. If you agree then stop talking about the standard model when you are talking about biology.

      I’m guessing you have a problem with abiogenesis. Do we know how life started? No. Do we think that something else is needed to explain the origins of life beyond chemistry? No. If you think there is then you need to state what extra you think is needed. If you don’t then stop saying the current models can’t explain it. Note that there is a difference between “Can’t explain it” and “Has not yet found an explanation”.

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      I didn’t said that, it would be absurd!

      Pretty much everything you seem to say is absurd. You keep co-opting terms and expect people to understand your meaning with out providing any definitions. Take the following quote from you where you draw a link between the shape of a tree and the shape of a spiral galaxy.

      The Milk Way is a spiral, the three of oranges seems a spiral.
      Milk Way has a central “trunk” and arms. The tree of oranges have a trunk and branches.
      Milk Way have planets, the colors can be blue, green, etc. The tree has leaves.
      Milk Way has yellows luminous stars attached to the arms. The tree have beautiful yellow oranges attached to the branches…
      And our star have a very caloric relationship with the tree through photosynthesis…

      You present a link that coincidental beyond the fact that a galaxy and a tree are both within our universe.
      The galaxy does not look like a tree. The central bulge in a spiral galaxy is the result of a very different process then the trunk of a tree.
      You seem to be amazed that planets have colours and a tree have leaves.
      You seem amazed that because we human perceive some stars as yellow, our sun actually has a peak luminosity in the green band, is profoundly related to oranges.
      The only part that begins to make any sense there is that plants use photosynthesis to produce their energy.

      So we have a bunch of rambling from you that you make links between something terrestrial to something cosmological based solely on your opinion that they look the same.

      Your refusal to understand that just because you can cherry pick, and very badly I might add, some properties of 2 different systems that you think have the same invisible root cause in your “Matrix/DNA” idea, doesn’t mean they do. Because you don’t provide anything that can be tested of falsified.

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      Neither I care. I mentioned it because it is the most known evolutionary shape of this system by human beings and here I am talking with the life form called human beings.

      If you don’t care then stop bringing up a link between the 2. Your images imply links that are not there. It doesn’t matter if you pick a elephant, worm, bee or amoeba. Your basic understanding of the both biology and astronomy are wrong. It isn’t about interpreting the data different. It is about you being ignorant of the science.

      You take a look at a pop science image like this
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      and claim that is one galaxy hatching out of another. Yea it looks a bit like that from that image but science isn’t based on just that image. Science knows about GR. It know the relative motions of those 2 galaxies. It can map the dark matter from those 2 galaxies. Every piece of data points to this being the product of 2 galaxies colliding because of gravity.

      You come along and claim it some how shows 1 galaxy hatching from another.
      For your idea to be true almost everything we know about physics has to be false.

      Where did the mass of the “new galaxy” come from?
      Where did the energy for momentum of that new galaxy come from?
      How are the 2 galaxies going against general relativity in one aspect but seemingly holding together via gravity in another.

      You treat pictures like that in a manner where you say scientist can not say if they are colliding or separating. But I’ve already told you that they can tell the directions those galaxies are travelling in. We see many examples of galaxies in the process of merging. From just starting to merge to almost completely merged. We know they are merging because of the extra information that scientist have beyond the simple picture you are looking at and it fits perfectly with simulations of galaxies merging. What it doesn’t match AT ALL is galaxies spontaneously splitting apart. Claiming it is a difference in interpreting the data is like reading the first paragraph of Moby Dick and saying the story is just about a guy who got bored and went for a ride in a boat is just a difference in interpreting the major theme within the story of Moby Dick. You are either ignoring or are ignorant of the rest of the book.

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      I’m going to cut off one of your objections before you try to make it.

      You’ve claimed because we haven’t been around long enough that we don’t know those galaxies are in the process of a merger that we can’t say they are.
      Going back to the Moby Dick analogy. Is like saying “Well you only have 1 page of the book, how do you know the real whole story?!”
      We know the whole story because we have every page of the book available to us right now. We can put those pages together and the story makes sense.

      It is like we have the cliff notes of Moby Dick = general relativity
      We then use the cliff notes to reconstruct the entire book from the pages torn out of the binder and thrown about the room.
      We can then reconstruct the book based on our understanding from the cliff notes.

      Based on GR we can reconstruct galaxies merging We can test it in many ways. Each time we get results that are in agreement with observation.

      What you want is the equivalent of a claim that Star Wars Revenge of the Sith is a story about a man that cures his need for robotic limbs and life support by shuffling himself into a pool of lava then jumping out of it with his limbs spontaneously regenerating. All because you don’t know if you should watch the movie in reverse or not…even worse that we don’t know which direction the movie was intended to be played.

      Este foi meu ultimo post o qual não foi publicado e o thread foi fechado:

      TheMatrix/DNA

      Hi, Sir… Seems to me that you are the moderator so, thanks by doing that.

      [QUOTE=Reality Check;2254894][B]TheMatrixDNA[/B]: You have may get some issues with this ATM thread. As far as I know, you have to present and defend the ATM idea here. The second hand presentation and defense of someone else’s idea will be prone to misinterpretations.[/QUOTE]

      Yes, I am the author of a copyrighted work registered as “fiction” ( note: not “Sciences”) which documents numbers from Brasilia and Washington can be seen at my website. I began this thread talking the necessary and unavoidable about the authorship referring to “the author” and not explaining that the author is myself, but, as you can see at posterior posts, I have corrected it. My motive for doing that is avoiding the readers changing the focus from the topic of Matrix/DNA models and the Standard Model to the focus over the authorship.

      [QUOTE=Reality Check;2254894][B]TheMatrixDNA[/B]:Presenting what could be a diagram of the author’s ignorance about physics and biology…[/QUOTE]

      Please, could you pointing out every detail of this diagram suggesting that the author is ignorant about [U]”natural”[/U] and not [U]theoretical[/U] physics and biology? With real scientifically proved facts, please? That’s one of those several causes I came here to CosmoQuest forum: elucidating my misunderstandings about the Standard model and correcting or explaining the misunderstandings of others persons that shows interest to know the Matrix/DNA model.

       

      [QUOTE=Reality Check;2254894][B]TheMatrixDNA[/B]: in an non-English language is not a good start.[/QUOTE]

      I know that. But as not a native speaking English I made lots of effort trying to understanding the diagrams written in English, so I need using the translation free at Internet for doing that. Will you never accept any diagram written in Germany, French or other language?! Ok, you are free for doing that. I had not translated the diagrams yet to English due missing time and the technological resources at the jungle where the originals were made.
      [QUOTE=Reality Check;2254894][B]TheMatrixDNA[/B]:[*]the universe is at least 13.8 billions years old (not 4 billion)..[/QUOTE]

      Please, if you can do it, explain to me how my words here: ” How Nature – the state of the world, the state of the Solar and Milk Way systems – at 4 billion years ago…” was interpreted as saying that the Universe is 4 billion years old?! I will guest that such terrible mistake is due English alone. So, I will write it another way: “How Universal Nature ( and not only the terrestrial Nature), and pay attention, please, I am saying how the cosmological evolutionary point in that time – 4 billion years ago – of its entire cosmological evolutionary history of 13,7 billion years,…) Is it possible now to understand this English and that it is not suggesting that the author would not know that the techniques of redshift measurements carbon dating, cosmic background radiation, etc., are suggesting that this Universe is 13,7 billion years old? Could you think that someone ignoring what any high school student knows, coming here talking about cosmological models?! Sorry, I can’t believe in it…
      [QUOTE=Reality Check;2254894][B]TheMatrixDNA[/B]:[*]astronomy is not biology and biology is not astronomy.[/LIST][/QUOTE]

      Good point! Here is the focus of differences between the Standard model world view and the Matrix/DNA model world view. Please, could you bring here which are the scientifically proved facts ( and not the theoretical interpretations of this fact made by the believers in the Standard model) showing that the natural architecture of this Universe is separated into two blocks, one being ruled only by known human Physics and Astronomic Science and other block being ruled by human Physics Science known laws plus the rules upon biological systems?

      I know that human Sciences needed in the past dividing General Science into compartments due the limits of its unique scientific applicable method that is the reductionist method. I don’t know that [U]Nature[/U] did same such division. If you does not explain to me where and when Nature did it, where and when the long [U]natural[/U] flow of causes and effects that began when this Universe was transformed from something that was existing before,and which flow has showing that it is increasing complexity upon the initial reduced complexity, when and were this flow changed his cosmological trajectory because you know that the laws, forces, elements and mechanisms that rules what you call “biology” were not inserted in this flow before what you call biology, emerged at the surface of this planet.

      Ok, I know that this complex question written in non good English can not be understanding. So, let’s try another very reducible way: Please, bring on here the scientific proved facts that ( not yours words “astronomy” and “biology” and yours concepts about these words) that the natural world composed by solar and galactic systems is not the natural world composed also by biological systems, and vice versa. Where and when the natural words was shared into two different natural worlds, one in relation to the systems existing before life’s origins and the other existing at Earth’s surface after life’s origins.

      My question is due the Matrix/DNA universal model has not detected such separation at Nature and is suggesting how the “biological phenomena”that we are watching here and now had all its evolutionary initial states at all natural architectures since the Big Bang. Don’t worry and please, don’t makes initial judgements about the mind of the person you are talking. This is normal at any event when two different cultures meets face a face first time. Cheers…

 

Cultura, Embriogenese, Debate do Aborto: Importante Artigo com Informações

segunda-feira, outubro 13th, 2014

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Aborto – cultura biológica

http://microsintonias.blogspot.com/2012/08/aborto-cultura-biologica_28.html#links

( Blog “Adaptações”, postado por  Valdemiro Romanha )

IMPORTANTES INFORMAÇÕES:

1) Informação: ” É consenso entre a maioria dos Biólogos do Desenvolvimento e  Médicos que os fetos não possuem as conexões nervosas necessárias para que haja a percepção da dor antes da décima segunda semana de vida, e que o córtex cerebral, que difere o homem dos demais animais, só estará totalmente formado na quadragésima semana de vida.” ( Ou seja: dor só em 12 semanas, 3 meses. E o córtex cerebral completamente formado, com auto-consciência, em 40 semanas, o que dá 10 meses). 

2) Informação: ” Em relação à decisão do STF, acredita-se que fetos anencéfalos correspondem a um quadro semelhante àqueles em que um paciente é dado com morto a partir de um diagnóstico de morte Neurológica. Segundo PENNA (2005), em ampla revisão sobre o assunto, o feto anencefálico é um feto morto, incapaz de sentir dor, ver, ouvir ou sentir qualquer tipo de sensação, ainda que, em muitos casos, seu coração seja capaz de bombear sangue para o corpo por algumas horas ou até mesmo dias após o nascimento. Destaca-se o fato de que, ainda que a gravidez seja levada a termo, este feto não terá um segundo de consciência ou experimentar sensações, não havendo potencialidade de se tornar uma pessoa. O motivo seria a ausência do córtex cerebral, independente da presença de um tronco encefálico “viável”.

3) Informação: ” Na natureza o aborto é apenas mais um dos mecanismos de controle populacional, ainda que tal mecanismo também vise a manutenção de um padrão genético que vem dando parcialmente certo. Nas plantas, a seleção sexual pode ocorrer em alguns momentos tais como: 1) durante a polinização através da competição entre os grãos de pólen pelo óvulo; 2) durante a fertilização dos óvulos no qual os grãos de pólen são selecionados pelas parte feminina da planta e; 3) durante o desenvolvimento dos embriões no qual ocorre direcionamento seletivo de nutrientes por parte da flor para diferentes embriões (Wilson 1994). Como resultado, pode-se ter ou a maturação seletiva ou o aborto de embriões, devido a diferenças na qualidade genética dos doadores de grãos de pólen e do investimento nutricional materno (Melser &amp; Klinkhamer 2001).

4) Informação: ” Os componentes naturais estão sujeitos às condições iniciais encontradas em cada momento da sua dinâmica sistêmica, respondendo coletivamente a estímulos ou “ruídos” que, eventualmente, perturbem seu frágil equilíbrio. A depender do caso, rupturas no comportamento padrão não são toleradas. Esta resposta é determinada geneticamente em conjunto com a dinâmica das relações a que estão submetidos os organismos no ambiente. Assim, os organismos moldam o ambiente e o ambiente molda os organismos (Hipótese de Gaia). Senão vejamos: A camada de ozônio não existiria sem atividade fotossintética das algas marinhas e das plantas uma vez que o ozônio (O3) é formado a partir do oxigênio (O2) produzido pelas algas. Também não haveria nuvens se não fosse a atividade metabólica das algas planctônicas que vivem nos oceanos e nas grandes bacias fluviais. Estas produzem uma substância chamada dimetil-sulfeto sem a qual as nuvens não seriam formadas (Odum &amp; Barret, 2007). Da mesma forma que não é possível a existência da vida como a conhecemos sem a camada de ozônio, a camada de ozônio não seria possível sem a vida na terra. Ou seja, para a microbiologista americana Lynn Margulis a vida na Terra cria as condições para a sua própria sobrevivência, e não o contrário, como as teorias tradicionais sugerem (Margulis &amp; Stamp; Sagan, 2002).

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Discussões de Interpretações Teóricas Entre a Matrix/DNA e o Autor do Artigo:

Artigo: ” Um dos aspectos mais curiosos no desenvolvimento das sociedades em contraponto com a evolução biológica é a aparente contradição entre a seleção natural e a seleção artificial.”

Matrix/DNA: “Como no caso da cultura dominante neste sistema social, a seleção artificial não é bem artificial pois é produto da imitação dos instintos naturais animalescos. Mas o artigo mesmo se contradiz quando a seguir diz: ” Aceitamos que a cultura, mecanismo/produto de seleção artificial, deriva da evolução da cognição humana e portanto intervenções antropogênicas nos fenômenos naturais são coerentes com a natureza do homem. Não existe “artificialismo” se tudo deriva da sofisticação progressiva do sistema nervoso. A cultura do aborto induzido é uma sofisticação dotada de razão daquilo que foi e é o comportamento biológico de selecionar embriões viáveis e não viáveis.” ( O autor se refere ao caso das plantas femininas selecionarem qual pólen irá fecundar). Ok, ele disse “aparente”… e a seguir mostra que essa aparencia – a de que o aborto seria seleção artificial – é falsa.

Artigo: “A sociedade, que é produto da engenhosidade do cérebro humano, rejeita a morte e cultua a vida.”

Matrix/DNA: Nem sempre. Isto é óbvio quando reduzido à engenhosidade do individual, na defesa de sua existência, mas se distorce quando ampliado e projetado ao nível de sociedade. Existe a pena de morte, a Igreja Católica Cultuou a Morte na Inquisição, nas guerras a sociedade deseja a morte do outro, etc. Esta escolha depende dos interesses dos dominantes predadores nas sociedades (as ditas “forças conservadoras… para manter o tipo de sistema que lhes sustenta como predadores),  que geram os valores culturais para condicionamento comportamental das prêsas. Os burocratas das religiões se aliam aos patrões na atuação para combater o aborto entre pobres porque isto significa redução do tamanho de seu rebanho, e portanto, menos colheita. O aborto como na agricultura das frutas, impede muitas frutas de amadurecerem para serem colhidas. Esta escolha pode ser até naturalmente inconsciente, simplesmente seguindo a dinâmica do instinto herdado dos animais, como a posse e defesa feroz do território.

Artigo: ” Até bem pouco tempo, cerca de vinte anos ou menos, era inimaginável se discutir no Brasil questões como aborto sem que houvesse uma comoção nacional por conta de forças conservadoras acolhidas nos diversos segmentos religiosos que sempre pressionaram o Estado no sentido de sua criminalização, incluindo o aborto de fetos anencéfalos.”

Matrix/DNA: Porque a estratégia maquiavélica dos predadores de escolher as igrejas para inserir sua força no combate ao aborto? Porque não usa seus exércitos, seu poder financeiro, ou diretamente sua policia? Penso que a resposta é óbvia: porque custa menos aproveitar um exército de condicionamento mental que já é custeado e produz bom resultado sem estragar muito os produtos ( suas presas) a serem colhidos. É como a diferença entre fazer colheitas de frutas à mão ou com maquinas, que estragam muitas frutas. Mas este assunto levanta uma questão interessante a ser pesquisada. Nos primórdios tribais, quando a dominação era direta pela força bruta, o que levou os dominantes a se obrigarem a conter os abortos, inserindo aqueles slogans condicionadores nas suas escrituras sagradas? É certo que desejavam o maior numero de nascimento de escravos, mas a inserção de textos engenhosos com noções contra o aborto significa que os escravos estavam forçando o aborto…? Não acredito que escravos negros tivessem desejo de abortar, mas talvez escravos mais renegados, como os hebreus no Egito dos faraós, ou bárbaros europeus apanhados por israelitas, tivessem mais consciência e quisessem evitar a escravidão aos seus rebentos. Falta uma pesquisa nisso. Quanto a enorme massa do proletariado moderno… o texto a seguir trás uma novidade a esse respeito:

 

Artigo: ”

Artigo: “Muitas vezes o embrião ou feto apresenta desenvolvimento incompleto ou anormal. Nestes casos, o corpo rejeita o embrião expelindo-o. Não interessa para a natureza experimentos mal sucedidos sob o risco de comprometer a deriva natural dos genes que levaram ao sucesso da espécie humana.”

Matrix/DNA: ” A natureza é cega, não tem propósitos de evitar riscos ou mutações que derivem os genes para fora do sucesso de nenhuma espécie. É preciso estudar ao nível da física, da química dos sistemas, o que acontece na realidade quando fetos anormais são expelidos pelo sistema. Talvez o sistema sente sugamento exagerado de suas forças acionando o sub-sistema auto-imune que enxerga o feto como outro invasor parasitário qualquer. Em relação ao sistema social, o individuo-prêsa deve nascer para trabalhar e servir o sistema, não trabalhar e servir apenas a si mesmo. Isto acontece e é permitido apenas aos indivíduos-predadores. Se acontece no rebanho, o individuo rebelde é expulso para as prisões ou assassinado.

Artigo: ” Culturalmente não devemos pensar no aborto induzido como uma ferramenta de aperfeiçoamento genético ou como um método de controle de densidade populacional, mas como um mecanismo natural de funcionamento da psique humana expressando uma necessidade cultural individual mas com repercussões ecológicas globais já que 40% das gestações culminam em aborto. O aborto não é contra a natureza visto que tem um papel ecológico. Então devemos ver o desejo de uma gestante de não sustentar uma gravidez como uma lógica ecossistêmica onde a razão é apenas o seu mais novo mecanismo.”

Matrix/DNA: “Isto parece mais um produto do desenvolvimento da cultura virtual dominante. Talvez o atual numero populacional de prêsas está se tornando desvantajosos em termos econômicos tendo em vista o advento da robótica e substituição de escravos humanos por maquinas escravas, que consomem menos recursos. Curioso é que a cultura social sempre tem desvirtuado as interpretações dos fenômenos naturais antes de levar o conhecimento destes fenômenos às prêsas, mas aqui parece que ela rebusca na natureza um fenômeno (o equilibrio eco-sistêmico) que, sem distorções interpretativas, por si só já serve de evidencia a seu interessado argumento.

Artigo: ” … o determinismo genético evoluiu inclusive para que as espécies tenham qualidade de vida. (…) Então fazer o bem é da natureza humana e uma condição para a evolução das sociedades.

Matrix/DNA: ” Isso está mal. Se existe determinismo genético aplicado a leões para que esta espécie tenha melhor qualidade de vida, ao mesmo tempo então ele é aplicado às ovelhas e demais vitimas do leão para que tenham pior qualidade de vida. Em relação a humanos, o determinismo genético tem a direção de conduzi-los à melhor qualidade de vida num sistema social como o teorizado por Huxley, no seu “Admirável Mundo Novo”, aduzido pelo sistema teorizado por Orwel, com o seu Big Brother. Espécies sem intelecto como abelhas e formigas foram conduzidas por este determinismo genético a construírem este exato tipo de sistema social, apenas trocando o Big Brother pela Big Mother. É preciso analisar melhor quando um ato está fazendo o bem ou o mal. Isso é relativístico e depende em relação a que sujeito de referencia. Abelhas como humanos que fazem o bem ao seu atual sistema social fazem ao mesmo tempo o mal ao sistema ideal para a livre auto-consciência. Isto desviou as abelhas para sempre da conquista de uma psicologia mais elevada. O altruísmo individual para com um sistema social notadamente egoísta como são os sistemas fechados é na verdade uma expressão do egoismo individual, enquanto o egoismo do sistema se compõe da soma dos altruísmos individuais.

Na Teoria da Matrix/DNA a tendencia genética desta biosfera e todos seus elementos vem do sistema que criou esta biosfera, o qual é o building block dos sistemas astronômicos, como este sistema solar e esta Via Láctea. Tal building block é um sistema fechado em si mesmo, quando a matéria atinge o poder da supremacia de sua tendencia, que é a busca do supremo estado de equilíbrio termodinâmico. Portanto não se admira que insetos foram por este caminho e a humanidade, inconscientemente esteja sendo conduzida aos braços do Big Brother. Mas alem de sistemas estelares e galaxias existe o Universo, que talvez seja um sistema aberto, pois de fora da galaxia está vindo esta força mutante gerando a auto-consciência, a qual exige um sistema aberto como corpo e ambiente físico.

Na real natureza observada aqui neste planeta e agora, vemos que o determinismo genético está sendo ameaçado e enfrentado por um elemento invasor que ameaça produzir uma mutação indesejada na espécie humana: falo a respeito da auto-consciência. Ela não pode ser produto direto do determinismo genético atuante sobre sistemas naturais porque ela não cabe e nunca aceitaria se submeter ao humano com este apogeu na qualidade de vida num sistema fechado em si mesmo, obtido à custa do super-especialismo que já levou tantas espécies à extinção. A genética direciona o corpo a um caminho onde a consciência seria abortada ou se submeteria à escravidão ao sistema. Temos que tomar cuidado com esta suposição teórica de “determinismo genético”. Porque na natureza não existe um determinismo sistêmico natural: sistemas naturais tanto podem serem abertos como fechados. Para o humano a melhor qualidade de vida física seria num sistema fechado, como o tipo mencionado acima, mas o intelecto, a mente, ou auto-consciência, como se prefere chamar este fenômeno, precisa para existir e se desenvolver um caminho livre apenas propiciado pelos sistemas abertos às relações com o mundo externo, sem limites. Em todo caso, assim como tudo na natureza vem em dicotomias, dividida em dois extremos opositores, assim deve acontecer com a genética, o que anularia dela a palavra “determinismo”.

Artigo: “… Assim, os organismos moldam o ambiente e o ambiente molda os organismos (Hipótese de Gaia)”

Matrix/DNA: “O que é mais uma evidencia de que a Cosmovisão da Matrix/DNA esteja correta. O meio-ambiente na superfície terrestre, a total biosfera, e os organismos, são todos produzidos pela mesma fórmula – apresentada na teoria.  O fenômeno genético dos organismos se adapta ou pode colaborar com a evolução do ambiente porque este também foi produzido e contem seu fenômeno “genético” ( a Matrix/DNA universal),  o qual é o mesmo dos organismos.

Artigo: “Não existem aí fenômenos místicos ou algo parecido. Não foi a vida que evoluiu para se adaptar às condições na Terra, em vez disso, os organismos desde o início, desempenharam controle de um ambiente geoquímico que lhes fosse favorável.”

Matrix/DNA:  “Não existe a mistica. Mas também a biosfera não foi construída pelos organismos. O nível de interações entre átomos que denominamos “biológico”, um grau evoluído a partir do nível de interações puramente físicas, já existia nos seus princípios antes da biosfera e organismos. O problema aqui é alimentado pela nossa teimosia em juntar sistemas naturais animados com partes inanimadas de sistemas para vir com a crença de que existe separação natural entre sistemas naturais vivos e não-vivos. A noção humana de  “vida” não faz sentido para o Universo.

Artigo: ” O sucesso evolutivo que levou à emergência do homem moderno derivou da sofisticação gradativa de códigos genéticos comprometidos com a manutenção da espécie através da expressão de mecanismos eficientes de caça, acasalamento e reprodução.”

Matrix/DNA: ” Faltou um importante mecanismo aqui, referente à divisão entre predadores e presas, ou competição.” 

Artigo: ” Podemos entender então que a cultura subverte o comportamento básico humano travestindo-o de crenças e demandas criativas. “

Matrix/DNA: “Não o subverte, apenas o mascara com adornos como valores éticos e morais para esconder e manter sua natureza animalesca”

Incrível! Vídeo de Bill Nye Atacando Religiosos e Sugerindo Revolução na Educação Alcança Meio Milhão de Comentários!

quarta-feira, outubro 8th, 2014

Incrível! Um vídeo publicado em 2012 já conta quase sete milhões de visitantes e o debate que se segue parece ser o mais longo da história do Youtube, pois já conta com quase meio milhão de comentários !!!

Mas o assunto do vídeo realmente é importante e faz parte da responsabilidade de todos os seres humanos conhecerem e tomarem posições participando do tema, pois disso depende o nosso e o futuro das gerações: qual a visão de mundo estamos pondo na cabeça dos estudantes, formando suas mentes.

É um combate ferrenho entre a recem-nascida mentalidade materialista e a velha mentalidade mistica que ainda governa a maioria das decisões sociais mundiais. São duas posições extremas, dois lados de uma mesma moeda, e no meio surge agora mais uma diferente e inédita posição, tentando tambem entrar na briga. Veja o vídeo, veja o comentário abaixo postado por essa nova visão do mundo, e reflita buscando sua posição, pois disso depende se nossos herdeiros irão cantar nosso sucesso ou chorar nosso fracasso.  Pois é a maneira como interpretamos a existência do mundo e nele, nossa própria existência, que determina nossos comportamentos e portanto, nosso destino.

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Bill Nye: Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU xxxxxx E o ultimo comentário postado pela nova cosmovisão “do meio”: 

Louis Charles Morelli – October 08, 2014

Darwinism is not equal the real observed natural phenomena of evolution. And Creationism is far away off the natural real world. The Universal Natural History can not be reached and understood by any human brain with these limited sensors in time/space. One need to see a system standing outside the system for understanding it, and nobody went outside this Universe… yet. Natural evolution is a observed phenomena when we see a simplest thing ( a morula, a blastula) transforming shapes and increasing complexity in 9 month. And it is easy to accept that Nature can amplify this individual phenomena, projecting it into populations transformations. But… we know that the force causing those individual transformations is something “invisible” inside the blastula, the fetus, etc.: DNA. So, why not the transformations from atoms systems to stellar systems to galactic systems to biological systems could not have a invisible force doing it?! Yes there is one, a natural universal formula for all natural systems, called “Matrix/DNA”, which is showed at “The Universal Matrix for Natural Systems and Life’s Cycles” ( Google it). It is not possible to understand in full, biological evolution ( which is merely another cycle of universal evolution) if not knowing cosmological evolution. And darwinism knows nothing about it. There are more four variables coming from the Cosmological Evolution, acting over biological evolution here – it is not merely the three variables considered now by Modern Synthesis ( VSI – Variation, Selection, Inheritance), which fill the gaps. They are natural laws and mechanisms coming from the electromagnetic dimensions, some of them described by thermodynamic systems theory. Our problem just now is that our official astronomic and atomic theoretical models are not complete, far away off the beam, so, the scientific community can not detect the evolutionary lings between cosmological and biological evolution, while Matrix/DNA Theory is suggesting a model of LUCA that fits the gaps. You can see the Matrix formula working into the shape of yours hands, as any natural systems, sub-systems and accessories, like the hands. You can see as elemental structure of atoms, galaxies and now, this new shape of system called ‘consciousness”. You can see the formula inside a lateral pair of nucleotides, the fundamental unit of information of DNA. That’s due DNA is merely the biological shape of something coming from since the Universe’s origins – the Universal Matrix. The first shape of this Matrix we see at the spectrum of natural light waves, so, the original light already had the code for Life. We see evolution here, but it is not the whole history. The phases of evolution are steps of a bigger universal process: reproduction. Inside this universe as a kind of big cosmic egg, is occurring a genetic process of reproduction. Reproduction of what?! Obvious: the Unknown system that generated this Universe. We can not know it.So, while this discussion among theories ( Darwinism, Creationism, Matrix/DNA, etc.) is necessary and good for stimulating the search for more knowledge towards the final thru, it is not rational the offenses, fundamentalisms. Never forget it: our little brain is not equipped for grasping the thru about the system we are inside it. The most rational method for inquiring this mystery is observing what Nature shows here and now, and then, calculating what must be where and when we can not reach. I myself don’t believe on my elaborated theory – The Matrix/DNA – because I bet that it is not complete, it can not be completed by my little brain. My fellows at this mission, the search for our existential meanings: “Try to understand that beliefs are products of Nature and personal specific experiences hard-wiring the connections among neurons and providing informations, some of them false, others real – and only bringing on to the table real natural approved facts and events, can help the Humanity inits evolution. E outro comentario postado: 

Louis Charles Morelli – October 08, 2014

“…if the beginnings of life were not random, they must therefore have been the product of purposeful intelligence.” (Sir Fred Hoyle, highly respected British physicist and astronomer)” Have been normal that human’s goes first to the two extremes of any issue, and finally reaching the middle term, where relies the final thru. Like Nature goes from the extreme hot to the extreme could for reaching the middle state good for life. Here, about the universal meanings of existence, humans have going from extreme infant phantasies ( creationism) to extreme materialism ( Modern Synthesis for Natural Evolution). Sir Fred Hoyle is dancing between these two extremes, so, if it is not randomness, must be divine intelligence. The third hidden alternative, the real thru, must be in between and lots more complex. My suggestion is that when we have a big unsolved mystery, and the known theories are extremists, we need ask it directly to Nature. And Nature shows to us that the life of a baby giraffe has not beginings at random, but… it is not product of mother’s giraffe intelligence either. It is merely a long chain of causes and effects known as genetic process.So, tell us the pure rational thinking, that we must search this genetic process as responsible for emergence of life at any planet of the Cosmos. The long chain of causes and effects has coming from the simplest to gradual more complexity (it happens here, facing our eyes: the embryonary morphogenetic event), so, the genetic process must be under evolution too. It must be coming from cosmological evolution, non-living world. Here relies the third hidden alternative, which must be the final thru. No randomness, no intelligent designers. Nature does not plays dice with her creatures.Ask her, She will tell you the thru, showing to you her production here, and revealing that how She does things here, is how She did things at the origins of this Universe and life here. See what you can discover, yourself, doing that, as I did. See the solution that I discovered after seven years asking the last remained life’s origins witnesses that still are alive at the heart of Amazon jungle, and published at my website: The Universal Matrix/DNA Formula for natural Systems and Life’s Cycles”. But, be advised, my findings are not the final real thru also. I have watched only the half-face of Nature, which  is the chaotic face that produced this salvage biosphere.We know that there is another half-facem the ordered state, when we lift our eyes and see this solar system and galaxy working as a watch.And even if we get the real theoretical model of the ordered Cosmos, we know that we don’t get the final thru yet. Chaotic and ordered states are the two extremes again, the final thru must relies on a third hidden more complex alternative. Today we can build theoretical models about the structure and evolutionary history of the Cosmos, as the scientific astronomers community are doing. They must be not complete, even wrong, since we have our brains hard-wired by the chaotic state, never experimenting the ordered state of Nature. So, the astronomers are projecting the laws and mechanisms of chaotic states when building their astronomical models. There is only a unique way for getting a little bit closer to the final thru: making comparisons between the ordered state and the chaotic state, extracting a third theoretical model. I did it, after 30 years of calculations, but… the final results are suggesting that it is not materialism, it is not randomness and it is not intelligent design: it is something never imagined before. Remembering that this model is not complete, it must have lots of errors, so, we must no believe on it. xxxx E como resposta a este post do Fallible Fiend:

Fallible Fiend – 4 weeks ago (edited)

When I taught at university, I warned students against cheating, but some would do it anyway.  They were always shocked that someone who understood the subject could detect their cheating, even though it was obvious.  They changed variable names and other things to mask their copying, but to no avail!  When you lie to somebody who understands, the lying is obvious!  Creatioinsts use quote mines and thereby misrepresent the scientists without caring that they are misrepresenting them!   Being caught in their intellectual incompetence is what’s making them so frothing in fraudulent Arjunasquirtz these days!  

   

Louis Charles Morelli – Octuber 09, 2014

To Fallible Fiend: “They were always shocked that someone who understood the subject could detect their cheating, even though it was obvious.”

Are you conscious about the virtual cultural matrix 10.000 or more years old built by human inheritance of animals’ instinct? I am talking about this culture that rules ours social systems, shared into big predators (the high class), medium predators (  medium class) and preys ( the slaves workers), mimicking the rules of the salvage jungle? The invention of religions is a good support for this culture due being good strategy for predators keeping slaves.  If yours students were shocked when facing reality it means they believed in it and came from middle class ( conditioned minds) because the high class knows that they are cheating. I will suggest a fantastic discovery from Matrix/DNA Theory for explaining how this virtual matrix works: I watched natives “shamans”  of Amazon jungle when taking their hallucinogenic beverages describing the same picture that very ancient people from Asia used as foundations for their mythos. The big surprise and question for me was: how could it be?! Ok, the first answer is that those people from such different places and time drunk same drugs. But, why this “altered visions” could be the foundations for religions? How they entered a brain dominated by animals instincts and survive together inside the brain?! One possible but surprising answer came when I arrived to Matrix/DNA formula for natural systems… like brains. The formula is suggesting a picture of LUCA ( the Last Universal Common Ancestor), which should be the evolutionary link between cosmological and biological evolution. This “luca” never stood at Earth’s surface, because it is the building block of astronomical systems, like this one that earth belongs to it. Another big surprise is that LUCA was described in full by those mythos. LUCA is a thermodynamic system working as perfect machine described by Physics, ( Newtonian mechanics plus general relativity) using a kind of words, metaphors, symbols, but, The Eden Paradise is the same thing described by another kind of metaphors, words, symbols! Same thing for the world view based on the symbols of I Ching. How could it be?! The explanation is rational, pure natural logistic. Systems as atoms, stellars, galaxies, are species and as such they are our evolutionary ancestors, like the species as bacterias, amoebas, reptiles. All these species are registered into our DNA’s memory. There is DNA for biological systems, but it came from another kind of “DNA” existing as building blocks for non-biological systems, which name I prefer “universal matrix”. ( The inanimate systems are registered at the junk DNA). So, when someone have altered states of brain, like those produced by drugs, this memory comes as flashes, scenes, and each people try to interpret it by its own way. You can see the seven symbols used for building the fable of Adam and Eve at the Eternal Paradise, inside a building block for any natural system, a perfect natural machine, described also by thermodynamic theory. Since that this astronomical building block is reproduced as the fundamental unit of  information called “a lateral pair of nucleotides”, you can now understand why these memories are inside our neurons. Look to LUCA at my website, and you can identify there, the serpent, the apple, the tree, the perfect paradise for Adam and Eve – which were the astronomical evolutionary state of X and Y chromosomes about 4 billion years ago! You will still understand what really was the Fall, and why the entropic force produces biological systems like me and you here. I think that once time this whole theory will be approved, it will destroy those mythos that are the foundations of all religions, forever. But… be aware: the world vision that you are teaching could be another kind of cheating the reality also. And it is, if this new theory will be proved right. So, like you can not see the virtual cultural matrix acting over you, don’t be surprised that yours students are shocked facing reality.

A Matematica da Natureza Interpretada por Outra Configuração Cerebral: Como os Chineses Multiplicam

segunda-feira, setembro 29th, 2014

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Ninguem entende quando começo a falar do mundo interpretado pela visão da Natureza que concluí na minha experiencia de sete anos vivendo isolado na selva bruta. Assim como não consigo ainda entender bem o que levou os cérebros de todas as outras pessoas a interpretar os fenômenos naturais e extrair seu significado para as existências, tão diferente do significado que penso ser o certo.  As pessoas não se interessam por esta diferença porque automaticamente concluem que eles, sendo a grande maioria, sabem o certo, e eu sou uma exceção, penso tudo errado. Não tem interesse em prestar atenção e tentar entender o que digo.

A herança genética tem grande influencia na forma como os cérebros são configurados nas suas conexões neuroniais – talvez ela contribua com 50% dessa configuração. O meio-ambiente, a cultura da raça, a experiencia de vida do individuo, talvez sejam responsáveis pelos outros 50%. Considerando-se que existem muitas heranças genéticas diferentes, modeladas pela geografia diferente, muitas culturas, e experiencias de vidas que podem serem completas exceções dentro mesmo de uma raça, concluo que deve haver muitas diferenças nas configurações cerebrais entre os indivíduos. Aqui está um exemplo estonteante de como pode diferenciar dois cérebros humanos: a diferença entre como a cultura ocidental interpreta e simboliza o aspecto contábil na Natureza quando comparado com o que faz a cultura chinesa. Devemos assistir o vídeo com link abaixo ( e ver os outros videos relacionados na lista do Youtube, inclusive parece-me haver alguns legendados) pois isto vai estremecer as bases na estrutura do nosso cérebro. Como eu faço ao descrever minha cosmovisão, os chineses mostram como vêm e como desenvolveram a interpretação matemática da Natureza. A diferença entre eu e os chineses é que, por mais que eu traga exemplos, evidencias, parâmetros reais e factuais conhecidos por todos, para embasar cada passo da minha teoria, de nada adianta para interessar as pessoas, enquanto nesta área restrita da natureza, sua face matemática, os chineses tem a sorte de mostrar na hora que seu método dá certo, portanto está também correto.

O ser humano precisa observar a diferença mental entre um homem e um tigre, um crocodilo, ao mesmo tempo que não julgue o cérebro humano superior ao cérebro do elefante, apenas são diferentes. Insetos com antenas são muito mais superiores que os humanos na captação das influencias do campo magnético do planeta, nos fenômenos da vida. Na selva eu aprendi a ser humilde neste ponto, apanhando duro onde o macaco ganha de sobra.  O segredo, a meu ver, está sugerido pela teoria das cordas, pela qual, existiriam no minimo 11 dimensões e não apenas as 4 ou 5 que nós captamos com nossos sensores cerebrais. Coisas “fantasmas” da maioria das outras dimensões pululam no mesmo espaço que vivemos que tambem tem suas montanhas fantasmas, constroem seus edifícios fantasmas, e jamais vamos poder digerir isso quando temos certeza absoluta que o mundo em que existimos tem o espaço todo ocupado pelo que denominamos de “reais”, ou “materiais”. Eu nunca vou acreditar nisso, esta é mais uma teoria mistica,… porem, as diferenças dos vários tipos de cérebros ao longo da evolução biológica, mais a minha cosmovisão inserindo a novidade teórica da Matrix/DNA na Natureza real,  sugerem racional e logicamente que esta teoria tem que estar certa. talvez, por exemplo, este planeta seja mais “vivo” do que pensamos, porem, as mais evidentes propriedades vitais dele se expressam no seu campo magnético, do qual quase nada sabemos. Talvez o Universo tenha sobre sua estrutura física uma camada de fenômenos biológicos sugerindo que o Universo tambem seja algo vivo; talvez vivemos no Universo como as bactérias que viveram na cauda de um dinossauro morreram sem saber que a cauda se move e que estavam dentro de um ser vivo. Não tem como saber-mos o que é e como é o Universo. No entanto estas teorias e estes talvezes não nos importam agora porque estamos atarefados na luta pela melhor sobrevivencia neste mundo captado pelos nossos sensores, não devemos desviar-mos nossos tempo e energias dessa luta. Mas tambem sabemos que uma boiada em disparada, se não parar nunca, um dia vai quebrar a cabeça numa montanha ou cair num precipício. A Humanidade inteira pode assim tambem desaparecer. Mesmo nessa louca correria em que estamos ( neste justo momento que estou escrevendo isto meu cérebro está me condenando porque tenho dezenas, centenas de coisas pendentes a resolver, centenas de fatos-oportunidades ou fatos ameaçadores estão agora passando ao meu lado, lá fora de casa, e eu ignorando tudo para parar e pensar…) sempre surgem momentos que somos parados temporariamente pelas circunstancias, e devemos então investir estes momentos para repensar nossa correria, o contexto ambiental, social, mesmo astronomico, em que estamos. Estamos acompanhando, sendo levados, numa longa caravana de humanos, em ritmo acelerado, por estradas das quais não temos a menor idéia sobre o que tem alem da curva e do horizonte que nossos olhos e raciocínios incompletos alcançam. Se alem da próxima curva tiver um pântano de areia movediça, não teremos tempo de parar os cavalos, será tarde demais.

Quando eu de repente arrumei minha mochila e partí para o meio da selva deixando a vida civilizada no centro de numa metrópole como São Paulo, ou quando deixo New York e seus yuppies que trabalham em Wall Street retornando à selva e seus macacos, é como se eu desse uma escapadinha, saindo fora da caravana, subindo uma montanha ao lado da estrada, e tentando ver do pico da montanha, o que nos espera lá á frente. Temos que exercitar o cérebro e seus sensores para abranger horizontes mais amplos que o nosso atual, habitual, e imposto, imediatismo. Não sou eu, não são minhas teorias escabrosas que estão ordenando que façamos isto: é a História Natural. Ela mostra que todas as espécies que foram pelo caminho que estamos indo, pereceram ou estão em vias de extinção. Não ligar para isso porque nossa arrogância sugere que nós somos superiores e vamos mudar as leis naturais, é estar com o cérebro dominado ainda pela mistica e as fantasias infantis. O Universo não está nem aí para nós, e o menino que na semana passada caiu na cela do tigre, ficou estancado pelo terror pondo as mãos sobre cabeça e pescoço para se proteger, minutos depois estava urrando de dor e sendo despedaçado: nenhuma entidade supernatural, superior, estava ali assistindo-o, ninguém parou o tigre, portanto, não existem deuses nos vendo: as leis naturais existem assim e são implacáveis, invioláveis. É mais sensato buscar conhecer as leis naturais do que buscar conhecer os deuses. Diferentes genéticas mais diferentes ambientes mais diferentes experiencias de vida causam diferenças sutis, evolutivas ou involutivas, nos sensores cerebrais, por isso, é preciso prestar atenção a que os cérebros diferentes estão dizendo dos fenômenos naturais. Temos que tentar entender o mundo visto pela cultura chinesa, como essa cultura levou eles a interpretar a matemática desta maneira tão incompreensível ao modo como nossos cérebro está configurado por outra cultura. Aproveito a oportunidade ladinamente para tambem lembrar que existe a cosmovisão da Matrix/DNA, construída por uma forma diferente de perceber os fenômenos naturais, e que ela tambem merece que invista alguns daqueles tempos que surgem de sobra na sua louca correria do dia a dia. Ela está sugerindo centenas, milhares, de necessárias urgentes providencias para corrigir a trajetória da nossa caravana, ela está dizendo que existe pântanos de areia movediça logo após a próxima curva… ela pode estar totalmente errada, mas,… senão, então será tarde demais. Fique acreditando que foi um meteorito que destruiu todos os dinossauros em todos os continentes ao mesmo tempo, ao invés de ver que as leis naturais estavam condenando-os á extinção implacavelmente, devido ao tipo errado de vida que resolveram adotar.

Vejamos então o link inicial para esta série de videos e artigos relacionados ( e tente raciocinar como raciocina esta estranha cultura, pois para desenvolver nossos cérebro, precisamos expô-lo à diversidade de experiencias) :

The way Chinese Multiply, really amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy0_YNN-H_I

 

 

 

Matemática Chinesa: Configuração Cerebral Por Uma Cultura

Urgente para Livro da Matrix/DNA: Expor idéias com figuras a cada frase ou paragrafo

sexta-feira, setembro 26th, 2014

O cérebro está na era do império do sentido da visão. O nosso complexo sensorial tem 5 ou 6 sensores para percepção do mundo externo ( tato, olfato,paladar, audição, cheiro) mas dentre estes quem mais está se sobressaindo neste estágio evolutivo é a visão. Estamos na cultura do apogeu da imagem. Então, os predadores capitalistas perceberam isto ladinamente e rápido e aplicaram em todos os meios que sejam relacionados com imagens para obter mais de suas vitimas.  Mas em metas que visam o bem comum tambem deve ser explorado este fenõmeno, senão, as metas tornam-se menos eficientes. Uma destas é a educação escolar. Ela se torna incomoda e torturante para o aluno se baseada na palavra escrita e oral. É preciso usar o mais possivel a imagem. Se tiver mais imagem que texto e palestra, tanto melhor será o aproveitamento da aula.

Mas esta dominancia das ondas de luz que transmitem as imagens sobre as outras ondas que emanam dos fenomenos naturais ( som, aroma, etc)  e que são das poucas percebidas pelo cérebro humano, parece ser tambem a forma preferida pela Natureza para revelar-se ao conhecimento humano. Como evidencia disso é o fato de que o humano chega ao seu momento de maior complexidade evolutiva com o sensor da visão dominado os outros sensores. isto indica que a natureza o dirigiu a isso e para fazer isso ela aplicou como mais intensa propriedade para se revelar, as formas que ela produz.

Pois uma das caracteristicas mais marcantes ao homem que estuda os objetos naturais em sua história de origens e evolução é justamente as formas dos objetos. Quando começou-se a perceber que a matéria é formada de unidades fundamentais ainda invisiveis, a que deram o nome de átomo,  mas que passsavam a informação de que estas microscópicas unidades se constituiam de coisas girando em órbita de outras coisas logo se correu a montar um modelo teórico do atomo baseado na forma de outro fenomeno observavel, o sistema estelar,  onde coisas tambem giram em torno de outras coisas. A forma do sistema solar foi projetada como forma do átomo nos primeiros modelos. Ligamos dinossauros a crocodilos na mesma espécie dos répteis mais devido a formas semelhantes, antes que a Ciência evoluisse e revelasse que existem outras caracteristicas, como a afinidade do DNA, melhores para classificar as espécies de acordo com a evolução.  Não colocamos dinossauros na mesma linagem evolutiva dos crodilos devido ao cheiro ou som emitidos por estes animais. A medicina começou pelo método da anatomia comparada, a qual é baseada quase que exclusivamente na forma.

Porque a Natureza parece insistir em revelar primeiro as formas de seus objetos, ao cérebro humano? Ou porque o cérebro natural se desenvolveu expressando mais a sua capacidade de perceber formas, e para isso equipou com maior complexidade o sensor da visão?

Na matematica, mais exatamente no estudo das formas geométricas,  se descobriu o fenomeno dos fractais. Na definicão da Wikipedia se lê que um fractal é um objeto geométrico que pode ser dividido em partes, cada uma das quais semelhante ao objeto original. Diz-se que os fractais têm infinitos detalhes, são geralmente autossimilares e independem de escala, tamanho.  Em muitos casos um fractal pode ser gerado por um padrão repetido, tipicamente um processo recorrente ou iterativo. Porem, o conhecimento humano dirigiu a existencia dos fractais na Natureza para o compartimento dos fenomenos mecanicos, os quais pertencem à disciplina da Física, e devido a isso, limitou seu estudo aos fractais que possam ser abordados pelo computador. Ignorou-se de forma incompreensivel e mesmo absurda, que a natureza revela que um seu fractal está no centro como essencia dos fenomenos vitais, área que pertence à Biologia, como unidade fundamental da vida, que é o DNA. O DNA pode ser visto como um objeto geométrico e que pode ser dividido em partes – um par lateral de nucleotideos – cada uma das quais é e semelhante na forma ao DNA. Separar uma escada em degraus ver-se à que cada degrau é uma pequenca escada. O DNA tem infinitos detalhes, os quais são expressados na forma de caracteristicas do ser vivo que ele produz, caracteristicas que são autosimilares ( nariz de crocodilo não é muito diferente de nariz de tigre, os dois tem a forma meio-conica e os dois tem dois buracos), e elas independem do tamanho do ser vivo. É gerado por um padrão repetitivo ( seus blocos fundamentais é sempre os nucleotideos, e numa escala mais evoluida, é sempre os genes: dizemos que as forças que geram narizes e orelhas possuem o  mesmo nome de genes devido estas forças nos parecerem iguais, devido possuirem um denominador comum). Eu não sei e não entendo porque deixaram passar o elefante mas filtraram e impediram a passagem da agulha, pois émuito mais dificl provar que a ponta de um continente tem a mesma forma do continente inteiro que provar que a ponta do DNA tem a mesma forma do DNA inteiro. Na verdade, este desvio absurdo na inteligencia humana, o qual tem se verificado na maioria das interpretações cientificas sobre fenomenos  naturais ( seus objetos e seus eventos), deve-se ao fato da Fisica ter se guindada a posição de dominante dentre todas as disciplinas cientificas, e porque o cérebro se desenvolveu nesta direção, será outra matéria de pesquisa.

O edifico universal construído pela natureza, o qual denominamos Universo, é composto de fractais, porem, ao contrario do fractal inanimado sugerido pela Física, o fractal natural é um fenômeno vivo. Ele não pode ser medido com certeza, e portanto não pode ser reconhecido pela Física como fenômeno físico natural, pelo mesmo motivo que as partículas não puderam serem medidas por Heisenberg. Ele está no centro de todos os sistemas e sub-sistemas construídos pela natureza universal, como estrutura interna, porem ele não é um bloco comum no sentido de percepção física, porque ele também está sujeito ao processo da evolução, portanto ele se transforma em relação ao tempo e espaço. Mesmo assim ele é o padrão fundamental dentro de todos os sistemas e sub-sistemas. Não pode ser percebido fisicamente porque ele é uma fórmula abstrata, ou seja, imperceptível aos nossos sentidos físicos. Ele, fractal natural universal funciona como os pensamentos, que são fenômenos abstratos porem aplicam uma força à matéria, podem atuar e mover a matéria, quando nós movemos por exemplo, um dedo, sob o comando de um pensamento, ou do conjunto de pensamentos, denominado “mente”.  O fractal universal é uma fórmula fixa que se materializa expressando uma forma padrão, porem a qual é plastica e versátil, pode ser deformada, variada, pelo meio-ambiente em que se encontrar em dado momento da História.

A Natureza quer revelar-se ao conhecimento humano na sua mais profunda nudez intima, no âmago de seu ser, no seu significado existencial, mas a maneira mais eficiente dela fazer isso não é expressando dominantemente o seu som, o seu cheiro, o seu sabor, e sim, a sua forma primordial. Pois foi a atenção que prestamos nas infinitas formas das arquiteturas produzidas pela natureza, sejam nos níveis micro ou macro, seja no passado ou no presente, seja expandida ou contraída no espaço, que captamos a sua alma, a sua essência universal que veio herdada do algo que existiu antes do Big Bang, a formula de seu ser, a qual denominamos Matrix/DNA.

Se a Natureza escolheu este método de ilustrar com formas os seus objetos e eventos-mensagens-de si-mesma, se ela aplicou este método para nos transmitir o conhecimento real do mundo real, porque não iriamos aplicar este mesmo método na educação escolar? A Humanidade passou dois mil anos com mestres transmitindo a cultura, o conhecimento, principalmente através das palavras, nas formas oral e escrita, torturando seres que foram feitos para adquirir este conhecimento através do método das imagens que transmitem as formas. Sentimos pesar por todos os estudantes de outrora, enquanto vamos atuar agora com energia para os nossos herdeiros do futuro cantem o sucesso ao invés de ficarem repetindo o choro do passado pelo fracasso do método dos adultos e mestres do passado.

O building block de um sistema astronomico é exatamente similar à face humana. Ou seja, podemos desenhar este building block numa folha de papel com linhas tracejadas em vermelho, e em cima deste desenho desenhar uma face humana com linha continua em preto, que teremos as partes do sistema astronomico na mesma posição das partes da face humana. Diremos que a face humana que viria a ser produzida dez bilhões de anos depois que foi produzido o building block astronomico, foi planejada nas estrelas e há dez bilhões de anos atras. Mas qualquer individuo que teve a sua personalidade formada pela visão de mundo transmitida pela escola vai achar esta comparação um absurdo, alem de refutar o modelo do building block galáctico, acenando com o modelo ensinado pela escola, que é diferente. O modelo ensinado pela escola não tem como ser desenhado como template, cenário de fundo, da face humana, As partes não tem as mesmas funções, nem as mesmas formas, nem as mesmas posições.  Se a visão de mundo que pensa ver a face humana nas estrelas fosse a visão dominante no ambiente escolar, o método de educação seria mais através da ilustração, com imagens e formas, que através de textos e oratória. E a teoria da evolução poderia ser ensinada com um professor que não emitisse uma palavra nem escrevesse uma palavra, apenas desenhando formas no quadro negro, numa sucessão lógica em que a forma de cada meio-ambiente produzisse uma derivação na forma do sistema natural sendo desenvolvido pela evolução. O problema é que os reacionários da cultura acadêmica escolar não fundamentam a evolução e interações entre fenômenos naturais ( objetos e eventos) numa unica linha lógica racional, como consegue fazer a visão de mundo da face desenhada nas estrelas.

Quem ou o que produziu a face humana? Onde, dentro de que, surgiu a face humana? Para estas duas perguntas só existe uma mesma e unica resposta lógica, racional: foi a Milk Way – esta galaxia chamada Via Láctea. Não?! Me mostre como uma entidade supernatural veio aqui fazer magica desviando o curso de causas e efeitos naturais, inserindo detalhes de fora da galaxia, para finalmente existir a face humana. Ou me mostre todas as forças naturais e todos os elementos naturais que compõem esta galaxia, de repente mudando suas intensidades, direções, substancias, devido a galaxia ser chacoalhada por alguma força externa, de maneira que um acaso tenha produzido a face humana. Enquanto os dois representantes destas duas culturas que tem dividido as interpretações do mundo real não trazem sobre a mesa, as suas provas, eu ficarei mudo e sem escrever uma palavra, desenhando no quadro negro uma sucessão de imagens como os slides de um filme, que transmitirá numa unica linha lógica e racional, como o “DNA” da galaxia no modelo de face humana termina justamente na figuras de uma face humana. É possível ensinar a História Universal de 13,7 bilhões de anos através de um filme mudo, como seria possível ensinar a historia da vida de Hitler apenas revelando todos seus momentos, desde que nasceu, num filme mudo. Todos os que de alguma maneira estudaram a vida de Hitler só o puderam fazer através de livros e narrativas de testemunhas ainda vivas, mas com certeza nenhum conheceu de fato a Hitler em todos seus pormenores: se alguém tivesse estudado sua vida assistindo um filme mudo de toda sua existência, teria um conhecimento mais verdadeiro. Assim é o estudo da natureza e cada detalhe dela, como por exemplo, o estudo das causas primeiras, das origens e do desenvolvimento do objeto que chegou hoje em dia á forma de face humana.  

Eu montei a minha versão da História Natural Universal fixando como ponto de partida a célula primordial, o primeiro ser vivo realmente completo que surgiu e saiu a ase arrastar ou nadar na superfície deste planeta. Claro, eu jamais poderia fixar a célula real, portanto, fixei o desenho dela. A partir daí segui duas direções contrarias entre si: uma calculando o futuro desta célula ( alguns poucos bilhões de anos)  e outra calculando o passado desta célula ( mais de 10 bilhões de anos). Mas o fiz aplicando apenas dois elementos: pensamentos e derivações das formas do desenho. Fiz isso porque acreditei que esta História foi um único fluxo de causas e efeitos produzindo as causas dos novos efeitos portanto foi apenas um objeto que rolou nesta historia toda adquirindo as deformações e ampliações de suas formas. O objeto é o próprio fluxo de causas e efeitos. Causas e efeitos são noções metafisicas inventadas pelo homem para tentar descrever o desenrolar de um bólido no tempo e espaço. São metafisicas porque neste fluir do bólido não existe nenhuma separação de momentos, portanto não tem como definir se num dado momento esta acontecendo uma causa ou um efeito. Na realidade, causa e efeito não existem. É quando nos apoiamos nestas invenções imaginarias que abrimos espaços para entrar a mistica. Pois não existem separações, não existem vácuos no fluir do bólido da Natureza sob evolução, e vácuos imaginários necessitam de supernaturais imaginários como elos entre dois momentos deste fluir que foram imaginariamente por nós separados. Acredito nisso porque foi só isso que vi no mundo desde o dia que nasci.  Mas até então eu tinha uma forma de raciocinar diferente das pessoas que me rodeavam. Por exemplo, num belo dia todos falavam num acidente, e apontavam causas e efeitos: a causa foi um motorista embriagado dirigindo um carro que bateu na pilastra do viaduto, o efeito foi o carro destruído, o motorista machucado. Eu pensava no evento por um outro angulo. Via o planeta movendo-se numa certa velocidade, levando consigo na mesma velocidade todos os objetos fixos nele, como a pilastra do viaduto, que assim movia-se numa direção; e mais distante um pouco da pilastra via três elementos, três forças, que eram uma porção de álcool dentro de um corpo humano que estava dentro de um carro movendo-se todos os três superpostos em paralelo numa mesma direção. Devido direções exatamente contrarias a força do planeta mais a pilastra encontrou-se com a forças dos três elementos e como o planta é mais forte, a pilastra parou o movimento dos três elementos e passou arrasta-los a sua frente. Nisso e para isso a força mais forte mudou a forma dos elementos mais fracos, que passaram desde então a existir com diferentes formas pela ação da força mais forte do ambiente. Qual então foi a causa? Claro que o agente da causa teria que ser a força dominante, e essa era o planeta com sua pilastra e não o motorista mais carro e mais álcool. Este erro de perspectiva tem sido um dos motivos de elabora-mos modelos teóricos errados, inclusive sobre o significado da vida. Não houve acidente, não houve causa e efeito, houve um momento normal no fluxo do bólido sob evolução. Assim teria ocorrido no evento em que a galaxia, como força mais forte e tendo outros propósitos, outra direção, que todas as especies que antecederam a humana, modelou a face final resultante da evolução destas especies. para quem não esta habituado a exercitar este tipo de visão, realmente a coisa fica ininteligível, mas acho que sempre nos devemos colocar fora e acima do fenômeno para arrancar daí o seu verdadeiro significado existencial.               

A nova cosmovisão da Matrix/DNA vai ser difícil de ser aceita e assimilada pelas pessoas com o cérebro desfigurado pela cultura. Apesar dela ser a mais lógica em relação à lógica aplicada pela Natureza, ela é incomoda e estranha, porque o humano foi educado por uma linha ilógica em relação à realidade. Esta ilogicidade começa quando a cultura separa a evolução e história cosmológica da evolução biológica, obrigando à errada conclusão de que os sistemas biológicos surgiram por acidente ou acaso, ou então, pela mágica de algum ser supernatural. E a Matrix/DNA foi a primeira a ligar estes dois blocos da História Natural Universal num só processo continuo, sugerindo os modelos dos elos evolutivos que serviram de ponte entre as duas margens.

Portanto vai ser difícil inicialmente propagar a novidade desta cosmovisão. E da maneira como o cérebro está configurado, mais o atual estilo de vida rápido e consumista, a informação na forma de imagem é a mais penetrante, a que ainda pode conseguir que o humano se aproxime da questão metafisica existencial arrumando um minuto para a sua curiosidade. Textos escritos, não funcionam.

Mas a Matrix/DNA é uma fonte rica de intuições para imagens. Um building block de sistema galáctico pode ser desenhado e torcido para parecer uma face humana, ou a mão humana, etc. Basta ver essa riqueza no meu avatar:

Human and Earth Life Cycle by MatrixDNA

Human and Earth Life Cycle by MatrixDNA

 

Portanto tenho que investir tempo na aprendizagem e recursos, equipamentos para desenhos. para isso o artigo com link abaixo pode ter boas informações e tem bons links :

How to change this classroom habit we’ve gotten wrong for years

http://ditchthattextbook.com/2014/09/18/how-to-change-this-classroom-habit-weve-gotten-wrong-for-years/

Procurar este livro na Amazon:

The Sketchnote Handbook: the illustrated guide to visual note taking

http://www.amazon.com/The-Sketchnote-Handbook-illustrated-visual/dp/0321857895

“Predadores Humanos Animalizados: Trabalho Escravo de Crianças nos USA Apoiado Por Republicanos e Fazendeiros!

terça-feira, setembro 9th, 2014

Um(a)  human(a) que faz isso está a declarar guerra contra mim e se tornando totalmente repulsivo (a), asqueroso, cortando todas as possibilidades de dialogo pacifico. Vou realmente ficar rondando-o procurando uma oportunidade de retira-lo da sociedade. E toda sua familia e amigos e fãs tambem são culpados, pois são o seu suporte e partilham o produto da rapina.

Crianças trabalhando como escravas na América em pleno século XI ! Quem são os animais culpados disso? Como revela a reportagem, os patrões dos politicos republicanos, os próprios politicos, e fazendeiros. Alem destes o são o pai e a mãe e demais parentes de tais crianças, e todos os cidadãos que não se alinham numa militância feroz aqui e agora para acabar com isso e por estes monstros na cadeia!

Workers harvesting tobacco on a farm in Deep Run. North Carolina remains the nation’s largest producer of tobacco. Credit Travis Dove for The New York Times

Sei que pareço extremista por isso mas tenho razões de sobra. Nascido órfão e caindo na rua, já tendo sido roubado em meu direito moral a meu pedaço de terra, fui sequestrado por estas famílias “cristãs”, ” politicamente corretas”,  para fazer o trabalho sujo que todos eles geram quando consomem mas evitam-no fazer como quem foge da peste. E tambem caí nestas fazendas de escravos. Fiquei por isso fisicamente deformado, o que me autorizaria a dar-lhes o troco, deformando-os fisicamente tambem, mas nunca nem pensei em fazê-lo, porque não sou tão animal como eles são.  Estas crianças lá agora estão levantando as 5 horas da manhã, sendo tocadas como cavalos para o meio da lavoura, vão carregar nas costas o fardo de folhas úmidas com seu veneno entrando-lhes na pele, nos narizes, na boca, e vão ter que aguentar esta tortura até às seis horas da tarde, 12 horas por dia! Escravidão bruta mantida por homens engravatados e sua mulheres perfumadas. Bandidos! Assassinos!

Como cidadão americano naturalizado, não seria moral da minha parte atuar fisicamente para mudar isso. Pois nem meus avos, nem meus pais, estavam aqui trabalhando para construir o pais e participar da sua legislação. Mas eu trabalhei aqui muitos anos, o que já me dá o direito moral de expressar verbalmente a minha posição social e politica neste país. Mas quanto ao Brasil é outra história. Lá meus avós e pais construíram o país, eu tambem, tenho todo o direito de agir fisicamente contra o que entendo ser errado no sistema social. E surpreendentemente, no Brasil existe a legislação: é proibido por lei o trabalho de menores de 18 anos. Como diz o artigo: ” Brazil, India and some other tobacco-producing nations already prohibit anyone under 18 from working on tobacco farms.”

Definitivamente o partido republicano conseguiu minha aversão total agora. E as tais familias de fazendeiros. E vou procurar quem são os patrões destes políticos, ou seja, quem financiou a campanha politica deles. Vou procurar nomes de pessoas, não marcas de corporações, que são escudos deles para esconde-los.  Para te-los na mira. Certamente devem fazer parte dos “1%”. E onde estão os menos-animalizados do México, da América Latina, onde estão produzindo estes escravos? Tambem estão partilhando da carnificina, imperturbáveis? Vamos ver isso tambem.

Se tem que ser produzido tabaco, se alguém prefere usa-lo para algo, e todo mundo é livre para produzir e usar o que quiser, ou os usuários vão lá no campo fazer isso ou inventem maquinas para fazê-lo. Sequestro. rapto, escravagismo, terrorismo, tortura sado-masoquista… nunca, jamais será aceitável.

Interessante é que igrejas, sinagogas, etc., deixem estes animais entrarem aos domingos, e não os repelem! Tambem são todos vendidos… em nome de seu Deus!

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Just 13, and Working Risky 12-Hour Shifts in the Tobacco Fields

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/business/just-13-and-working-risky-12-hour-shifts-in-the-tobacco-fields.html?_r=0

“For years, public health experts and federal labor officials have sought to bar teenagers under 16 from the tobacco fields, citing the grueling hours and the harmful exposure to nicotine and other chemicals, but their efforts have been blocked. Three years ago, Hilda Solis, then the labor secretary, proposed declaring work in tobacco fields and with tractors hazardous — making that type of work illegal for those under 16. Opponents of child labor note that Brazil, India and some other tobacco-producing nations already prohibit anyone under 18 from working on tobacco farms.

The Obama administration withdrew Ms. Solis’s proposed rule after encountering intense opposition from farm groups and Republican lawmakers. Agricultural organizations said the move would hurt family farms and make it harder for young people to learn farming skills.”

Meu comentario: S eu tivesse poder para tal, ao ouvir estes animais dizendo isso, imediatamente os prenderia, identificaria tambem quem mandou eles dizerem isso, leva-los- ia aos campos de tabaco, pegaria um chicote e diria:

“Então voces acham que isso é bom para outros humanos, não é? Eu tambem acho que isso é bom para vocês. Amanhã acordem às 5, compareçam às 6 lá no meio da plantação, quero no minimo 1000 quilos até às 6 da tarde. Vamos!”

Desconstruindo a Cultura Virtual Predadora: Complexo Sensorial Tambem Condicionado Pela Cultura?

domingo, setembro 7th, 2014

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How Culture Shapes Our Senses

( Matrix/DNA: O sentido mais notável modelado pela cultura é o paladar. Mas agora se descobre que tambem o cheiro, a visão das cores, e interpretações dos sons são diferentes.Assim como as cores não estão nos objetos, e sim nos olhos dos observadores, tambem os cheiros não são exalados pelos objetos, eles rsrão nos narizes dos cheiradores. )

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/opinion/sunday/how-culture-shapes-our-senses.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region&region=c-column-top-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-top-span-region

Trechos Importantes:

…the knowledge we gain from our senses as “zero-order beliefs,” so taken for granted that we do not even notice them as beliefs. The sky is blue. The fan hums. Ice is cold. That’s the nature of reality, and it seems peculiar that different people with their senses intact would experience it subjectively.

O que pensaríamos de um alienígena que dissesse ser o céu, cor de rosa? Eu iria me tocar com vergonha de quantas vezes eu disse que o céu é azul. Claro que não é. As cores estão nos olhos do observador. “Mas… diria alguém – … o que importa é que para nós humanos o céu parece azul e todos concordamos com isso. Isto facilita nossa vida, por exemplo, como iriamos retratar o céu e estrelas na bandeira americana se não pela cor azul?”

E novamente minha resposta seria desconcertante: “As bandeiras nacionais de todos os países foram feitas erradas, com símbolos, desenhos que nada tem a ver com a realidade. A América não é o céu, o céu não é americano, todos os países tem céu, ele não pode ser um diferenciador entre países a ponto de ser colocado numa bandeira. Seria muito mais racional que as bandeiras contivessem o mapa geográfico do pais. Portanto, o acordo tácito em cima de uma mentira não facilita a vida, pelo contrario, esconde e adia a solução que realmente viria a facilitar a vida… a Humanidade terá um grande problema de comunicação quando começar a entrar na comunidade dos seres inteligentes da galáxia, assim como é muito difícil a um povo extremamente nacionalista viver na era global, ou a um individuo extremamente narcisista viver em sociedade. Já é tempo da Humanidade deixar de ser a criança centro do mundo e crendo em fantasias infantis devido o desconhecimento das reais causas.”

 In recent years anthropologists have begun to point out that sensory perception is culturally specific. “Sensory perception,” Constance Classen, the author of “The Deepest Sense: A Cultural History of Touch,” says, “is a cultural as well as physical act.”

Isto trás muito novo alimento para se pensar. Então o uso e desuso da glândula pineal pode fazer aparecer uma antena fora da cabeça ou um pequeno caroço atrofiado no centro do cérebro. O diabo é que as evidencias corroboram a hipótese. E a coisa se desdobra. Será que os insetos tem o hormônio melatonina, que no humano é produzida pela glândula pineal? Melatonina produzida pela antena? Como seria um cérebro sem melatonina? É ela então um elemento nocivo? Ë ela um sub-produto cultural? Raios…

… Marshall McLuhan’s insistence that nonliterate societies were governed by spoken words and sound, while literate societies experienced words visually and so were dominated by sight. 

Aqui vai um comentario extritamente pessoal, util para eu mesmo analisar minha psicologia: Marshall, o canadense considerado o “Papa da Comunicação” nos anos 60, foi um dos modeladores da minha foerma de pensar, porque aos 12 ou 13 anos me veio parar à mão um livro grosso dele ( Understanding Midia) e lí aquele livro inteiro em dois meses ou mais, todos os dias lendo uma pagina porque eu não entendia quase nenhuma palavra, não conseguia captar o sentido das frases, então a todo momento tinha que interromper a leitura e pegar a palavra no dicionario, até montar cada frase e entende-la, na marra. Junto com a critica ferina e astuta de Sócrates caindo encima da enganação por tras da palavra “justiça”, Marshal foi me fazendo perceber desde cedo que a cultura estava errada e precisavamos conserta-la. Ok: a palavra alheia e as imagens escolhidas e/ou alteradas por alheios não são confiaveis para se produzir o cerebro corretamente a fim de gerar o conhecimento correto. Então qual outra forma de sentido sensorial deve ser empregado?

The team also found that several communities — speakers of Persian, Turkish and Zapotec — used different metaphors than English and Dutch speakers to describe pitch, or frequency: Sounds were thin or thick rather than high or low. In later work, they demonstrated that the metaphors were powerful enough to disrupt perception.

Pesquisa da Matrix:

Wikipedia:  – Osmologia é o estudo dos odores e aromas. Ramo do conhecimento humano que se ocupa da compreensão do olfato e das partículas que, dispersas no meio, são captadas através de células especializadas, interpretando-as como cheiros. Na atualidade a osmologia vem se tornando um ramo da Ciência Médica, através do uso de técnicas terapêuticas conhecidas genericamente como aromaterapia.

 -O olfato ou olfacto1 2 3 ,é um dos cinco sentidos básicos e refere-se à capacidade de captar odores com o sistema olfactivo.

No homem e demais animais superiores, o órgão olfativo se forma a partir de um espessamento epidérmico situado na região etmoidiana do crânio, a neurorecepção somente será ativada após as moléculas das substâncias odoríferas serem dissolvidas no muco que recobre a membrana pituitária. ( continuar  a ler)

Qual a causa natural do homosexualismo? Sugestão da Matrix/DNA

terça-feira, setembro 2nd, 2014

Pessoas normais, não-radicais, se perguntam porque homosexualismo existe? Tem alguma razão oculta ou é puramente um evento ao acaso? É praticamente óbvio que homosexualismo não é vantagem evolucionaria, nem para o individuo nem para a sociedade. Isto se confirma – penso eu – pelo fato que homosexualismo nunca se fixou como mutação permanente, daquelas que são passadas hereditariamente. Então restaria a hipótese de ser produto do acaso, mas dispenso esta porque um acaso não se repete, e hossexuais são fatos repetidos aqui milhões de vezes. Poderia ser o caso de mutação causadora de uma doença, que não se fixa como caracteristica genética mas permanece encoberta, expressando-se esporadicamente. Consultamos os modelos da Matrix/DNA para ver se descobria a causa, principalmente o grafico que sugere como foi a origem e evolução da função dos cromossomos, desde o mundo inanimado. Surgiu uma hipótese complexa que não dá para explicar aqui, mas resumindo, a causa seria relacionada à epigenética. E quando a causa é força que vem do mundo externo adentrando um processo genético, alem da solução inusitada apontada pela Matrix/DNA, tem outras sugestões, no ambito da metafisica, que, se não estão dentro do escopo do mundo tratado pela Matrix, ao menos não está fora das exigencias do racionalismo. Me refiro á solução apontada pela filosofia espiritista: homosexualismo é a encarnação de um homem ou mulher que tenha sido pederasta, para sentir o outro lado das sua ações, o lado das suas vitimas.

Abrimos aqui mais este capitulo para pesquisa pela perspectiva da Matrix/DNA, e abaixo vamos registrando seus avanços:

Nesta nova maneira de interpretar cada detalhe do mundo natural – a Matrix/DNA Theory – surge como uma explicação nova, diferente.  Mas para ver isso é preciso trazer para cá um dos aspectos da fórmula natural para sistemas naturais, pois o corpo humano individual é um sistema em si. ( clique na figura para amplia-la):

Circuíto Sistêmico ou "Software" extraído da fórmula da Matrix/DNA, Revelando o aspecto Hermafrodita

Circuíto Sistêmico ou “Software” extraído da fórmula da Matrix/DNA, Revelando o aspecto Hermafrodita

Homosexualismo está diretamente relatado ao fenômeno “cromossomos sexuais”.  Existe aqui na face da Terra um ffenômeno natural muito complexo denominado “cromossoma” . Como a matéria bruta deste planeta produziu este fenomeno? Pode-se elaborar várias teorias, a verdade ninguem sabe porque tem sido a nós impossivel voltar no tempo e assistir qual foi a história real. Nós podemos acertar como foi que a natureza fez uma criança que vemos apenas agora, porque sabemos como outras crianças foram feitas, mas em relação aos primeiros cromossomos surgidos na Terra, não temos padrões para comparação. Nós podemos imaginar o estado da matéria da Terra anterior ao aparecimento dos primeiros cromossomos apontar as moléculas que existiam e vieram a compor o cromossoma, mas não podemos apontar a fôrça natural que organizou aquelas moléculas da maneira especifica que resultou no primeiro cromossoma. Quando isso acontece – quando não podemos ver o processo, o método, e as coisas ficam muito dificil e penosa para se pensar, tendemos a escapar do problema rebuscando uma hipótese que por ora pareça a mais indicada. Por isso, os humanos se dividem entre os que “acreditam” numa fôrça invisivel não-natural e inteligente, e outros acreditam que tudo foi mero produto de forças e elementos avançando e se misturando por acaso, mantendo os resultados que que se adaptam em sincronia com o meio-ambiente.

Dentro da Matrix/DNA, eu percebí que pode haver uma terceira alternativa, e que a mim me parece mais lógica e racional. Não parecerá racional ao leitor à primeira vista porque ele não conhece a história da origem e desenvolvimento desta teoria, e nem entende seu significado.  Ou talvez porque não exista mesmo racionalidade na teoria, se algum fato real vier provar que esta teoria não traduz o mundo real. Mas vejamos qual é a terceira alternativa.

Nas sopas primordiais de onde emergiram as moléculas orgânicas, haviam atomos cujos elétrons foram invadidos por fótons vindos com a energia solar, a radiação cósmica e eflúvios emanados das reações físicas no núcleo do planeta. Cada fóton tem uma tendencia, um comportamento especifico, adquirido no sistema onde ele existe, que se sobrepõe ao seu comportamento original, assim como cada ser humano de cada cultura adquire um comportamento especifico que se sobrepõe aos seus instintos originais. Ora, os fótons que invadiram os átomos terrestres que se organizavam em compostos não-organicos, vieram todos de uma unica fonte. Seja pela estrela solar, seja pela radiação cósmica, ou seja pelo nucleo de planetas, todos vem de um unico sistema, o astronomico. O qual é um pouco mais complexo que o sistema atômico que o compõe. Então, assim como cada grupo de imigrantes tentam estabelecer no novo país um ambiente modelado pela tendencia adquirida no pais de onde vieram, os fótons de um sistema mais complexo tentam estabelecer este sistema num sistema mais atrasado para onde emigraram.

A Matrix/DNA foi construída pelo caminho reverso do que foram construidas as teorias da evolução e das origens da vida, a abiogeneses. Aquelas tentam reproduzir o estado do mundo antes das origens – seja da vida ou de uma nova espécie – e a partir dele inferir o que deve ter acontecido no desenvolvimento da história. Na Matrix/DNA eu fixei o estado do mundo aqui e agora e tentei calcular o passado, regredindo passo a passo. Com isso cheguei aos sistemas astronomicos e depois aos sistemas atomicos portando diferentes modelos teóricos destes sistemas, diferentes dos modelos teóricos elaborados pelas ciencisa que fizeram o percurso passado, futuro. As propriedades organicas e vitais que são constatadas aqui e agora aparecem como princípios ou forças brutas nos meus modelos de átomos e galaxias, enquanto as ciências academicas não mencionam ou não identificam estas propriedades em seus modelos.

Então, considerando-se o modelo teórico de sistemas astronomicos onde aparecem os principios das propriedades vitais, calculamos quais deveriam ser as tendencias especificas dos fotons que adentraram os atomos terrestres e aí começamos por perceber a explicação do porque alguns atomos terrestres começaram a se comportarem de maneira nunca praticada antes, a se combinarem da maneira que resultou nos compostos organicos, daí às moléculas base das proteínas, do RNA, etc. Percebemos por exemplo, que cada proteina transcreve um pedaço especifico do trecho do circuito sistemico de um sistema astronomico. E aqui chegamos aos cromossomas sexuais.

O sistema astronomico resenhado na figura acima seria a forma dos building blocks das galaxias originais, assim como atomos são os buiding blocks de células e células são os building blocks de corpos humanos. Existem bilhões de corpos humanos diferentes, assim como bilhões de galaxias diferentes, mas os building blocks são os mesmos.  Nos seres vivos, a fórmula que nunca muda, que modela o building block fundamental é um par lateral de nucleotides, building blocks do DNA. Pois os fotons que vieram através da energia solar ou outra fonte, teriam vindo do modelo mostrado na figura. Assumem o comando da maquinaria atomica, assim como virus podem assumir o comando da maquinaria celular, e jogam estes atomos a novas combinações, pois os fotons dentro de um atomo querem se alinharem na mesma sequencia que estavam no sistema de onde vieram, ou seja, os emigrantes da China em New York querem se juntarem em Chinatown.

O modelo acima sugere que as galaxias originais – apesar de serem compostas por elementos brutos, algumas esferas e rodamoinhos em meio a poeiras estelares – já revelavam propriedades organicas vitais numa espécie de cobertura invisivel biológica, apenas detectada quando observamos como estes se conectam, formando um sistema. Assim, extraindo as linhas de uma conexão e observando seu desenvolvimento, percebemos que o resultado final daqueles movimentos mecânicos são semelhantes ao processo e resultado final da reprodução sexual biológica. Então estaria aqui o segredo invisivel inserido nas sopas primordiais terrestres que fez moléculas organicas, manteve a direção do desenvolvimento até criar proteinas, nucleotideos, etc.

O modelo acima indica que a galaxia original era um sistema fechado em si mesmo e hermafrodita. As duas parafernálias sexuais que surgiram nos seres vivos, estão visiveis num unico ser, considerando-se o modelo teórico.  A observação do circuito sistemico, por dentro do qual fluem todas as informações do sistema, revela que ele é esférico e tem uma direção, que vai da esquerda para a direita, no sentido horário.  O sistema completo e funcional precisa ao menos de sete peças, partes, seis localizadas no trecho esférico e uma siando fora, dividindo a esfera em duas meias-faces. Cada peça executa uma especifica função sistemica, “F”. Este circuito é  originado quando a Natureza consegue um corpo unico – digamos, a nebulosa primordial de atomos leves – e consegue penetra-lo com uma onda de luz natural, a qual tem sete vibrações diferentes, cuja sequencia é a base que imprime o ciclo vital num corpo inanimado, num monte disforme de massa. Então quando a onda de luz penetra o corpo inteiro ela o divide em porções, cada uma contendo uma de suas especificas vibrações, o que diferencia uma parte de outra, Depois torna-se natural que estas sete porções sejam mutuamente atraidas de acordo com a sequencia de onde vieram, e quando se conectam completamente, tornam-se um sistema funcional. Se as duas pontas, a inicial e a final – se juntam, o sistema será fechado em si mesmo, isolado do mundo externo; se não se juntam, o sistema será aberto e se comunicará, realizará trocas, com o mundo externo.

Bem, relembradas algumas coisas basicas da longa teoria da Matrix/DNA, voltemos ao homosexualismo e aos cromossomas.

Toda vez que nasce um sistema, ele começa por F1, a energia vai em crescente até atingir F4, que é justamente a metade, formando uma meia-face. Neste ponto a energia começa a decrescer, mas copia a mesma configuração executada na primeira meia-face, surgindo daí a bi-lateral simetria, completando uma face inteira.

( Epa! Surgiu aqui um problema: se a face direita é copia da esquerda, a configuração é a mesma, mas mudam as funcões das partes, e na formula muda as formas das partes, como que nos seres vivos a face inteira revela as mesmas formas e mesmas funções nas duas faces?  resolver isto antes de voltar aqui… Artigo interrompido até que resolva-se este problema.)

…. Problema acima resolvido: Não existe bi-lateral simetria no estado de sistema perfeito fechado, como existe nos sistemas biológicos abertos.  Porque muda o objetivo da a Função 5, reprodutora. No sistema fechado, F5 reproduz o sistema inteiro, pela auto-reciclagem; no sistema aberto, a F5 se aplica duas vezes: primeiro para reproduzir a meia-face esquerda em meia-face direita, e depois para reproduzir o corpo todo. Mas isto ainda precisa ser melhor estudado. Pois, no sistema fechado, ao produzir a meia-face esquerda as partes executam funções da energia crescente, e quando entra a produzir a meia-face direita, a energia está em estado decrescente, portanto as partes executam funções entrópicas. É preciso saber como F5 atuou no caso do RNA primordial, que era apenas a meia-face esquerda, e então esta foi duplicada como meia face direita, surgindo o DNA. Isto sugere que no par de nucleotideos que forma a unidade fundamental do DNA, um nucleotideo, incluindo sua parte da haste,  tem a energia crescente, e o outro tem a decrescente. Mas apenas as bases mudam, enquanto os elementos da haste continuam iguais ( açúcar e ponte fosfórica).  bem, tem mais problemas aí mas acho que já tinha resolvido isso, preciso procurar onde deixei os papéis e como resolví. Pois os elementos da haste tambem mudam de função: um açúcar representa F1 e o outro, F4.

Voltemos ao texto:

No sistema fechado esta bi-lateral simetria éa penas na quantidade de partes, localização das partes. Alem da diferença das duas energias, existe a de que uma parte é masculina, e a outra, tem o órgão feminino. Isto é que possibilitou a separação em dois corpos com sexos diferentes, mais tarde. Não existe ainda sequer possibilidade para um “terceiro sexo”.

Acontece que X dá uma volta inteira e tem informações do sistema todo, expressa informações totais. Portanto ele tem as informações que Y tem. Este tem claramente as informações da meia-face esquerda. Acontece que Y tambem dá uma volta inteira, pois seu começo vem do fim de X e no seu fim entra em X. Mas apesar de ter a outra metade das informações, Y não as expressa, porque f5 não participa das funções, passa ( o sistema é espiral, e não como está na figura da fórmula, ele cai direto em F1. Então a mulher tem dois X e expressa duplamente o sistema todo, mas se na fusão sexual, um X cai e entra um Y, a parte do X que restou que expressaria a meias-face direita fica dominada porque a parte da esquerda foi duplamente reforçada. Isto significa que o homem apresenta o derivado evolutivo do órgão masculino do ancestral galactico ( o vulcão emitindo cometas no pulsar), mas mantem informações do sexo feminino, em situação de recessividade, que deve estar encoberta em algum lugar. Talvez isto se expressa nas mamilas masculinas, que parece não tem utilidade e não conheço evolucionário biólogo que tenha explicado porque elas estão ali. Da mesma forma a mulher tem em algum lugar a expressão do sexo masculino – pelo que volta a hipótese das mamilas, que mantem a forma de vulcões ejaculando “leite”.

E o que deve acontecer nas raras fusões sexuais em que um individuo apresenta órgãos de um sexo, mas caráter, personalidade, do outro sexo? terá algum motivo evolucionário, será uma doença, ou um evento por acaso?

Não pode ser produto de um propósito evolucionário, pois homosexualismo não é retransmitido hereditariamente, o que significa que a natureza nunca fixou essa mutação genética. Mas tambem não é um acaso, pois o evento tem se repetido milhões de vezes, e um acaso não se repete. Pode ser uma mutação encoberta, como uma doença que não se transmite em todos os filhos mas retorna numa geração seguinte.

Talvez nosso ancestral pudesse ser chamado de homosexual, porque era hermafrodita. Talvez não, pois, talvez, o hermafroditismo cria uma terceira personalidade, que não a homosexual. Mas pode ser que nesse esforço do ancestral astronomico de se reproduzir através dos sistemas biológicos aqui, o ambiente contenha informações que seriam forças mutantes reproduzindo o seu “caráter” nos dois corpos divididos que são dois meio-caraters. Se for isso, o problema diz respeito a epigenética. Algo que transcende o simples processamento de genes na genética, pela atuação do corpo como sistema.

Se é epigenético, o fator causador do hosexualismo é externo ao corpo, uma força que vem do ambiente. E aqui surge mais uma possibilidade, apesar de estar fora do escopo da Matrix/DNA, mas não fora do racionalismo.  Me refiro à doutrina espirita que em algum lugar escreveu que uma pessoa – seja homem ou mulher – com comportamento sexual doentio, como om pederastismo, o abuso de crianças e do sexo oposto, etc., retorna na próxima encarnação com a personalidade do abusado, para experimentar o outro lado, o lado de suas vitimas… isto se encaixaria na epigenética e como terceira alternativa. Mas o assunto fica aberto para pesquisa.

“Collective Evolution”, o Movimento de Joe Martino, Nêste Vídeo, E a Opinião da Matrix/DNA

domingo, agosto 24th, 2014

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Joe Martino é um militante ativo propondo um novo movimento, visando a mudança mental de cada individuo, que ele denomina de “Evolução Coletiva”. O seu texto introdutório, no seu website (      ) me parece ser de grande racionalização e bom senso, o qual vai copiado abaixo, para permanente estudo.  Isto interessa sobremaneira a esta nova visão do mundo denominada “”Matrix/DNA”, por isto vamos estuda-lo em detalhes e acompanhar seus movimentos.

É um rebelde de nascença que cêdo se desajustou dos sistemas familiar, social, econômico, politico, que aí estão. Teve coragem para enfrentar o mundo tentando uma forma de vida diferente, conseguiu sobreviver e se firmar, e então agora quer que a mesma mudança se dê ao nível da Humanidade inteira. Realmente, como explico abaixo, a vida do homem comum, das classes média e baixa, não faz sentido para um observador situado num horizonte mais amplo no tempo e no espaço. Aconselha a Razão que os jovens procurem mudar o ambiente terrestre que receberam dos pais, e os objetivos de vida, enquanto há tempo, pois o planeta, o sistema solar, estão mudando e não vão parar para nos esperar.

Mas eu vejo um problema na mentalidade do Joe Martino, o qual deve se refletir como um problema para este movimento. Eu ainda não fiz a pesquisa devida sobre os detalhes deste movimento, mas pelo que já ví, penso que algo está errado.

Na época em que ocorreu o “despertar” e a mudança do Martino ele tinha a cabeça povoada por pensamentos individualistas. Estava tudo errado para ele viver, ele queria que tudo estivesse diferente… para ele viver melhor. Por isso, nesta sua palestra no vídeo, ele fala repetidamente a palavra “eu”. Então é um movimento individualista… Se todos os indivíduos mudarem, é claro, que o coletivo estará mudado. Mas então será um “coletivo individualista”. Isto, nas Ciências dos Sistemas tem um nome: sistema fechado em si mesmo.

Como meu website explica, eu tambem carrego um movimento buscando a mudança do ser humano e a evolução coletiva. Tambem tive meu despertar, quando descobri na selva a fórmula da Matrix/DNA, sugerindo uma interpretação nova do mundo diferente de todas as já conhecidas pela Humanidade. Tambem cortei todas as relações com o mundo normal e numa mudança mais drástica do que a do Joe Martino, fui viver com os animais na selva. Mas existe uma grande diferença entre o meu movimento e o do Sr. Martino.

A fórmula da Matrix/DNA sugere que o humano é um sistema aberto gerado por um sistema fechado – o sistema astronômico do qual este planeta faz parte. Ela aopnta para cima, para o fechado sistema astronômico, para usa-lo como exemplo de que não devemos ir para o mesmo caminho, porque aquele sistema está morto, fechou para si as portas de sua evolução. E ela mostra a mecânica newtoniana, descrevendo o perfeito e funcional “relógio cósmico” para explicar que o caminho para se tornar sistema fechado é o mecanicista, tornando-se máquina. E ela mostra que o processo da transformação do sistema astronômico mecânico em sistema terrestre biológico foi pelo comum método genético, para lembrar que nossos genes tem a forte tendencia de reproduzir aqui a maquina de onde vieram. Somar todos os nossos individualismos e projetar isso na forma do coletivo é produzir um coletivo individualista, caminhando para ser maquina e sistema fechado. O movimento do Sr. Joe Martino, me parece, focaliza o aspecto materialista da vida, principalmente o econômico. para esse movimento se tornam os jovens começando por perguntar: “Se eu largar a escola, como vou sobreviver, ter dinheiro para consumir?” E me parece que a resposta dos porta-vozes de Martino tem sido sempre a mesma: “Como fez o Martino, tendo sucesso no mundo do marketing digital, você tambem inventará sua maneira de ganhar dinheiro, mas então estarás fazendo o que realmente gosta.”  Suponhamos por enquanto que isso seja possível. Todos os humanos largam o sistema produtivo atual e passam a produzir tudo o que necessitam de uma outra maneira, na qual se sentem bem, trabalhando. Teve um grande escritor filósofo que já pensou nisso à exaustão e chegou a uma conclusão no seu livro “O Admirável Mundo Novo” Uma cópia do paraíso perdido, reconstruído na Terra, tudo funcionando automaticamente, todos os trabalhadores felizes… e  para garantir que esse mundo se eternalize ao infinito, outro filósofo arrematou com a medida exata: o governo do grande irmão. Só tem dois problemas: em tal mundo o humano vai ficando cada vez mais estupido, perdendo a consciência do Cosmos, de estar ligado ao Cosmos, ou seja, cortando relações com tudo o mais, fechando-se a Humanidade em si mesma… E o segundo problema é que a Terra e o Sol estão tambem se transformando, nada será eterno aqui.

Tambem acho que devemos construir uma espécie de paraíso aqui, um planeta ajardinado, onde toda a produção seja feita por maquinas automaticamente, libertando o homem para viver dono de seu tempo e atitudes. Pois não tem como evoluir uma auto-consciência estando ela sob o ciclo da miséria, e dos conflitos sociais de hoje. Mas isto tem que acontecer ao mesmo tempo que se toma todas as providencias para garantir que a mente humana será livre, e terá sempre o desejo progressista.

Tanto Joe Martino como eu temos esse ingrediente mental: o desejo de liberdade progressista. Então teríamos que conduzir a coisa de maneira que todos os indivíduos tenham esse ingrediente mental. Desta maneira, a soma de todas as individualidades mentais se torna a individualidade mental coletiva. Ou seja, cada individuo se projeta como sendo a Humanidade e a Humanidade se projeta em todo individuo. Assim, construiremos o paraíso terrestre mantendo a auto-consciência como sistema aberto… para se aventurar no Cosmos. A Terra fica sendo apenas nosso lugar de lazer, descanso, reuniões com amigos e familiares.

Não vejo outra alternativa para produzir esta mudança individual sem caminhar na direção da maquina, senão a de mudar a nossa visão do mundo. Sómente uma nova interpretação do mundo mexe com nossos alicerces mentais e com a energia necessária para uma mudança efetiva. O novo mundo visto tem que se encaixar neste propósito da mente livre progressista. Mas não vejo o Se. Joe Martino trazendo uma nova visão do mundo… e é por isto que acho que seu movimento tem um problema.

Joe Martino

Joe Martino, Fundador do Collective Evolution

A vida do ser humano comum está sendo assim: nascer, brincar enquanto criança, ir para a escola, começar a trabalhar na juventude, obter um parceiro sexual, casar, trabalhar mais, obter filhos, trabalhar mais,  a luta para comprar uma casa, ficar velho, obter doenças e degeneração física, se aposentar, ficar inativo esperando a morte chegar, o corpo vai para debaixo da terra, e o resto – se existe resto- ninguém sabe realmente o que acontece – se acontece. Alguns tem a ilusão que sabe, mas não podem provar nada nem a si mesmos. A Humanidade é composta na sua grande maioria por indivíduos comuns com este tipo de vida. Mas enquanto os individuos nascem e morrem para serem substituídos por outros, a Humanidade continua sobrexistindo, a já por alguns milhões de anos ( ou milhares de anos? – não importa), fazendo parte de um espectro mais amplo, chamado “vida biológica no planeta Terra”, a qual continua sobrexistindo, a já 3,5 bilhões de anos ( ou milhões de anos? – não importa). Então cada ser humano que está vivendo esta vida, produz filhos, que vão repetir o mesmo roteiro. Os filhos nascem, vivem, trabalham, lutam para comprar outra casa pois a do pai já não é suficiente para todos, e morrem, E vem outros filhos que nascem, trabalham, produzem filhos, lutam para comprar mais casas, e morrem. Isto resume a vida humana, nesta época.

Isto faz sentido? Se sabemos que esta História irá parar tambem, pois o planeta, o sistema solar, estão mudando, e um dia a Terra não mais suportará vida aqui? Ou a Humanidade avança sua tecnologia para viajar no espaço sideral e procurar outros planetas para continuar a existir ou perecerá para todo o sempre, aqui. Se perecer-mos devido ao planeta, o que significou nossa existência, qual a razão lógica para existir-mos agora, para que trabalhamos? Se a Humanidade fosse composta apenas de indivíduos comuns – cujo resultado produzido final é filhos, mais uma casa, mais trabalho humano no planeta, e mais um tumulo no cemitério – não restaria duvidas de que a Humanidade toda continuaria existindo por mais um tempo, mas certamente pereceria um dia e o Universo ignorando totalmente que um dia existimos. Mas a  Humanidade não é composta apenas destes indivíduos comuns – existem alguns poucos indivíduos que são progressistas, evolucionistas, buscam o conhecimento pela Ciência e buscam aplicar este conhecimento como tecnologia, inclusive para promover aquela empreitada de sair a viajar no espaço sideral – e isto abre a possibilidade de que a Humanidade escape do seu destino fatal de morte total, ao menos, existindo por mais algum tempo, e talvez, eternamente.

A grande questão é: Vai crescer o numero de indivíduos comuns a ponto de sufocar e desativar o movimento mantido pelos indivíduos incomuns? Vai crescer o numero de indivíduos incomuns a ponto de acelerar a conquista espacial e salvar a Humanidade? Ou vai se manter a mesma proporção de hoje? Vai a Humanidade ser dividida em duas espécies, com uma composta de indivíduos comuns que ficarão aqui até perecer totalmente, e outra espécie se alavancando para sobreviver no Cosmos? Lembre-se que ( se a história cientifica estiver correta), já houve esta mesma divisão dentre o macaco ( ou seja lá que bicho tenha sido), com uns continuando a serem macacos e outros se tornando humanos ( e esta divisão sempre aconteceu, de répteis a bactérias – se a história cientifica – que nunca poderá provar sua interpretação do passado – estiver correta).

Seja qual for sua resposta preferida, acho que uma evidencia você não poderá contestar, à luz da pura racionalidade: a vida do individuo comum não faz sentido inteligente, e vai a lugar nenhum. Ou desaparecerá para toda a eternidade junto com toda a Humanidade, ou perecerá como espécie “homo sapiens”, assistindo antes uma espécie superior a partir para o Cosmos e nunca mais voltar.

A realidade que se apresenta para a maior parte das horas vividas de um jovem comum hoje ( das classes média e baixa) é: ser canalizado como rebanho para um local de trabalho onde não vê a luz do sol o dia todo e depois desta jornada repetitiva, diária, rotineira, ser canalizado para uma caixa de cimento chamada “apartamento”.  para terminar a vida sentado no sofá assistindo TV, com a boca cheia de dentes, comendo batatinha frita e tomando cerveja, engordando cada vez mais, esperando a morte chegar, deitado num leito de hospital. E o filho vai repetir a mesma história, e os filhos dos filhos vão repetir o mesmo roteiro… até quando a Terra não aguentar mais.  Aí haverá choro e ranger de dentes para todos, até perecerem coletivamente, a raça toda apagada da História para sempre. R o Universo continuará, insensível, esquecido de que existimos um dia.

Por isso acho que uma inteligencia, qualquer inteligencia, jovem de hoje, seria normal e natural, largar tudo o que os adultos estão ensinando, orientando, conduzindo, e partir imediatamente para fazer tudo diferente. Ou seja: qualquer inteligencia se revoltaria contra a sua vida do jeito que o mundo quer e partiria para se transformar, transformar sua vida para ser como os indivíduos incomuns, para planejar sua vida e se comportar a cada minuto buscando o progresso cientifico e tecnológico para se expandir ao Cosmos. Não fazer isso imediatamente significa – para mim- ausência de qualquer nível de inteligencia. Significa ser feliz como escravo voluntario de um mundo que o criou, o plantou, apenas para colher, sugar, sua energia.

O sr. Joe Martino foi um jovem comum em quem a inteligencia de repente se mexeu, se manifestou, declarou guerra ao mundo, cortou a relação de poder com os adultos, e promoveu sua mudança de siua vida. Criou um movimento chamado “Collective Evolution”, que tem feito algum avanço. Para você pensar neste domingo, veja seu vídeo, com link acima.

Apenas para finalizar, eu particularmente penso que existe um acerto e um erro ao mesmo tempo na pessoa do se. Joe Martino. O acêrto é ter uma inteligencia, e esta inteligencia ter dado-lhe a coragem de desafiar o mundo e mudar sua vida no sentido em que ele se torna um agente condutor da sua vida, ao invés de meramente se manter passivo deixando outros humanos decidirem sua vida. O êrro está na constatação que, antes de mudar, o sr. Joe Martino não pensou o mundo o suficiente para visualizar como mudar a vida segundo um plano de um mundo ou meio-ambiente imediato diferente, a ser construído. Pois eu tambem, ainda na juventude, tive esse arroubo de mudança, mas antes de escolher um caminho diferente a seguir, fui para o meio da selva, onde ainda existem as testemunhas que viram as origens da vida, e todo seu desenvolvimento até formar esta biosfera de hoje, peara rever o mundo, repensa-lo, e daí tirar minha utopia, um modelo do que eu deveria a partir de então, lutar a cada segundo com toda energia, para torna-lo realidade – mesmo sabendo ser impossível conseguir isto no breve tempo da minha vida. Mas então… a diferença entre o se. Joe Martino e eu, é que Joe pensou como individuo, e eu pensei como Humanidade: é possível tornar a utopia em realidade para a Humanidade viver ela, não eu como individuo, mas isto é uma causa suficiente para me manter vivo dentro do tipo de mudança que escolhí.

Assista o vídeo, ele pode se tornar “food for thoughts” – alimento para interessantes pensamentos.

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TEDx Talks

Change starts within

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGqxZ-Lql7A 

Joe Martino – founded Collective Evolution (CE), an alternative online media outlet that has carried the message of change to countless citizens of the world; Collective Evolution has also produced three feature-length documentaries.

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O texto introdutório de Joe, que pode servir como bom ingles para nossos textos similares tambem:

The Many Outlets For Truth

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/12/08/the-many-outlets-for-truth/

Today we find ourselves faced with a time of great change and great unrest. There have been many people, groups and organizations in the past who have spoken out and brought forth their concerns and information which assisted the collective at that time. Now however, on some levels we are seeing a much more peaceful approach, one that in some ways is being heard more easily for its approach.

It may not be that every person or group who speaks out will come from peace, but we are all assisting each other in many ways. For some, a different approach appeals to us given where we are at personally in our life, for others, a completely different approach may work. Behind most of these messages, is a commonality, we are in the midst of change and we must become aware or we will face an unpleasant future.

You may stumble onto CE.com and find that our approach isn’t for you. Perfect, this is the beauty of the variety that is available today in having so many of us speak out. We can be lead or guided to whichever resource works best for our own personal experience. We would like to share some resources you may find work for you.

I would like to say for the rest of us at CE.com, we may not fully agree with each resource in it’s entirety in terms of its spread of truth, nor do we feel we, in any way, are spreading a better message. We share our own experience and they share theirs. Like us, they are having the exact experience they need to have, and it is perfection for all of us to play with and be a part of.

David Icke
www.davidicke.com
Based on our experience, David has brought forth a very wide variety of material which connects many dots in terms of the puzzle of our reality.  Definitely will find something you can relate to.

Alex Jones
www.prisonplanet.com
www.infowars.com
Alex has been doing great work for many years exposing the truth behind the governments of our world. Some may find his approach aggressive but as mentioned before, everyone is looking for a different experience. Alex has done much amazing work in his time regardless of his approach.

Project Camelot
www.projectcamelot.org
“To provide researchers, activists and ‘whistleblowers’ with access to all forms of media in order to get the truth out. With a huge archive of video interviews, this is a great source for truth on many topics

Peter Joseph (Zeitgeist Movement) www.thezeitgeistmovement.com
The popular film “Zeitgeist” is a masterpiece by Peter, one of the documentaries responsible for making a great deal of noise around the world. Peter’s approach is very grounded and heart-felt, bringing up a more conscious look into our reality and what needs to change.

Alex Ansary
www.alexansary.com
Alex has a Radio Show you can listen to daily as well as an expansive archive of previous talks with very interesting people. He brings another solid truth perspective to news as it happens.

WeAreChange
www.wearechange.org
A group of individuals with many chapters throughout the world. They are doing a great job in speaking their truth to the public and sharing video. If there is a major event you will find them there bringing the change that is needed.

There are literally hundreds more who are speaking out and spreading the light, we have just shared some who we have enjoyed or come in contact with. We can also say we are happy to see a lot of peace behind much of the people who speak out today. It is important to remember that when we come from peace, peace cannot be attacked. When we come from ego and anger, we open the doors for more ego and aggression back.

Peace and Love
Joe

Meu comentario postado aqui:

TheMatrixDNA
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We are in the same boat, Joe, thanks by coming aboard. I have discovered a very new and different approach for interpretations of this natural world, which suggests a big change of our believes. Which could work for someone else. Then, where and when I see something like Collective Evolution suggesting a change, I try making contact and/or participating actively. I am knowing yours world view, maybe you and followers would like knowing mine too ( despite the difficult of language). My website talks about The Matrix/DNA Theory, based upon my results from my investigations, called “The Universal Matrix/DNA’s Natural Formula for All Natural Systems and Life’s Cycles, Theory”.

If possible, I would be grateful if you add my website to the lists of alternative movements below. I think that you, at a first view, will not understand the deep message and the meanings of this world view, because for understanding that, it is necessary to see the almost 1.500 articles bringing on 1500 evidences for Matrix/DNA Theory. But, believe me, this job that could be a new great source for mental changes, scientific, technology and social systems changing, is based on pure logics and rationalism. The opportunity offered by this world view is to expand the debate by including new ideas and this new approach, which is product of seven years of research at the middle of Amazon jungle. Waiting for commentaries with opinions here, from a supporter of yours great job, Louis Morelli.

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TheMatrixDNA
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“… for others, a completely different approach may work…”

Joe, think about the difficulties for any person that was living at the Middle Age, when reading the new revolutionary  theory from Copernicus, and so, that’s the normal resistance today for an effective individual mental change. All schools, ruled by churches, and all midia of that time taught the world view where earth was at the center of the world and the Sun orbiting around. How could it make sense someone talking that the truth is just the opposite?! But, it is just one’s world view that generates all of his/her behaviors and beliefs, so, the issue about world views is fundamental for humans life. It is the way that we see and interprets each natural phenomena, projected as real fact inside our brains and hard-wiring ours neurons.

The basics of ours hard-wired brains is our genetic inheritance from ours ancestors, from the animal, till the astronomical and atomic world. That’s why, before any mentalized world view, first acts ours natural instincts, and that’s why all of ours invented social systems have mimicked the rules of the jungle, where the social division is about big predators, middle predators and preys, and we have this modern social system based on high, middle an low classes. The mentalized world view of a specific epoch has been little influence when building new civilizations, I know that, but the human supreme goal must be escaping from this “selfish gene” domination inherited from past ancestors and searching the human transcendence, towards a big “self-consciousness”. Matrix/DNA world view is offering the tools for accelerating this required transformation.

What if the whole world view being taught at all modern schools are wrong again, teaching just the opposite world view? At our present scientific resources, should it be possible? Could be possible that we are making everything wrong again, building one more civilization for being destroyed by nature, as happened with all others civilizations, because they were built by a wrong world view?

The Matrix/DNA Theory is about the possibility that all natural systems, from atoms to galaxies to human bodies, shares the same common essence, a natural formula called Matrix/DNA, from which universal Matrix, our DNA is merely a temporary biological shape. it is a theory under testing against real facts, but, the accumulation of thousands of evidences and the correct previews at 30 years of testing, are suggesting that it has some thru in it. The problem is that this new world view is suggesting that the theories that are being taught at modern schools are very wrong. The Big Bang Theory, for instance, is kept as event, but the new interpretations are very different than those interpretations from all people that learned it at our schools. So, it happens with abiogenesis theory, darwinian evolutionary theory, cosmological evolution theory, quantum mechanics  properties, and so on, everything is interpreted different because the world view is changed.

But… as happened at the Middle Age, only after Copernicus death, some people began understanding that something was wrong at their schools. So, for a deep change now, it will require a long time. But this time could be shorter if we works towards the criticism and questioning of every modern interpretation of every natural phenomena and natural event. We need, first, to make people re-thinking their interpretations, offering a new approach from which emerges a new interpretation, which must be more “logical”, more rational, facing the real results we are getting just now for our lives.

I think that CE will have hard times when searching real results, real changes, if not, first of all, showing how the modern world view is questionable, how it “makes no sense” when facing the real world. And Matrix/DNA formula is offering new interpretation for every natural phenomena and every natural event, which is a source for us to discover the holes and gaps at our modern scholarly interpretations. That’s why I am suggesting here that you must be aware about the Matrix/DNA new published interpretations every day. Am I wrong? Why?  Thanks… Louis Morelli

Outro comentario postado neste website, em: http://www.collective-evolution.com/topic/hi-i-got-cancer-help/#post-62597 

TheMatrixDNA – August, 27, 2014

Hi… Purplekev ( sorry by my poor English):
There is a possibility that you could control the development of this disease. There is a new theory based on natural systems that is investigating cancer by new approach. The suggestion is: Cancer is not a local eruption, neither caused by external agents.It’s bad function of the human body’s identity as a whole system, and it happens – first – at the energetic template of any natural system. For understanding it is necessary to know the Matrix/DNA natural formula for all natural systems.It is very complex issue due you have not known this new world view, but, a little effort and you can understand it, and practicing it by yourself. Only for a quick look: All electrons of all atoms of yours body contains photons coming from sun and cosmic radiation and all these photons are connected composing the Matrix/DNA’s formula. Yours brain controls the whole body at the level of electrical impulses/muscles because it is structured over the same formula. But, the modern way of life is making that the human body is bombarded by bad copies of this formula, which are aligned side by side with the body’s template ( a kind of quantum super-position) and the result is that yours good original formula gets the errors of the invasors. Normally, the brain controls the entropic force but occurring this invasion it opens holes inside the systemic flow of energy and the entropic matter ( free radicals) falls into neighbours cells, killing them and spreading around. The bad copies are coming inside lots of things from this modern industrial environment, but, principally, from food.The meat you are eating is coming from animals that are tortured during all their life and are tortured when killed, which negative emotional state is projected into theirs energetic template, inserted into their DNA, and we are eating this DNA. Normally our brain could control it, but the modern stress and our modern emotional state weaks the brain’s control. The possibility for doing a treatment is that yours brain produces yours mind, and the mind is a new shape of natural system at the level of this photonic template. So, trying to apply yours mind for fixing the points of disfunction of the body’s template is very difficult, but maybe you can get it, because I suspect that I had the same problem 10 years ago and I got success doing it. I don’t know if it worked, or if was merely coincidence, so, someone else need repeating the experience.By the way, the Matrix/DNA world view is suggesting a new meaning for human existence that is very hopefully, which can avoid ours psychological negative emotional state due stress, etc., and only this advantage is good because devolves to yours brain the control of yours immune system.If you want know more, try goggling “The Universal Matrix/DNA for Natural Systems and Life’s Cycles Theory”

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