Posts Tagged ‘systems’

sexta-feira, junho 22nd, 2018


Guest Post: How can messy and disordered processes produce complexity and life?

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Posted by Louis Morelli at 06/22/18: 

Interesting! Nature ( or God) took 10 billion years building the frame for supporting life. The construction of the frame began in chaotic state and arrived to the most ordered possible state: these astronomical systems. Then, upon this frame and over Earth surface was chaos again, from where emerged life. Who like me that has lived at a jungle like Amazon, knows that this biosphere still is chaotic. We can say that the inner chemistry of human bodies are at ordered state, but the set of human bodies at what we call “humanity” or “human species” is still chaotic. Why God do things in this tortuous way?!

The most rational explanation in my opinion is in a theory called “The universal formula Matrix/DNA for all natural systems”. It begins suggesting that from the Big Bang to nowadays there is a unique universal system, and the various shapes of systems – like atoms, galaxies, cells, human bodies, etc. – are evolutive variations of this universal system, like the human bodies shapes as morula, blastula, fetus, teenager, adult, etc. are merely variations of a unique system. So, it suggests that while there is a biological genetic code for all living systems, called DNA, the DNA itself is the biological variation of a universal matrix encoded at those non-living and ancestral systems. What do you think about? if you see the Matrix/DNA universal formula and knowing that proteins are the biological representations of the entire circular circuit of a system, you will see proteins by a new understanding and creative way.

Organismos: multilevel organizacao e funcional integracao – Topico aberto para “paper”

sexta-feira, maio 18th, 2018


Multilevel Organization and Functional Integration in Organisms

A FRONTIER, uma coletanea de jornais cientificos lancou este topico para pesquisa e aceitara papers ou artigos inclusive de cunho filosofico apenas, e eu entrei com um ensaio/teste para ver se tem respostas e orientacoes se vale a pena mandar um artigo, na forma de comentario copiado abaixo: 

My commnet publishe in Frontier in 5/18/18:

Louis Charles Morelli says:

“Furthermore, the concept of the genome understood as a kind of instructional algorithm that determines the organization of biological systems is seriously compromised”
Sorry as a layman and a naturalist philosopher curious working in the Amazon jungle biosphere, this issue is my job and I think could contribute with some insights here. Nature does not know and applies humans algorithm because the reason of Nature is different from the human rational operations.  A natural algorithm is a living process, humans algorithm is not, still is mechanical. Each new level of complexity of an evolutionary universal system – be it atomic, astronomic, or biological level – are organized by a universal formula that reveals a process of life’s cycle. This formula ( which can be seen at my website in the shape of algorithm), called Matrix/DNA, begins with a new moving environment (let’s say, the primordial soup), which works as a womb (F1), from this environment is emitted an initial smaller body which is like the baby (F2), which gets aggregation of nutrients and grows ( F2, like a kid), then it falls in free space like eggs out (F3, the young), gets maturity like sexual maturity (F4) nd so on till to dye as a cada at F7. You can see all known natural systems in this world made by this formula, be it atoms, astronomic, building blocks of DNA, cells, brains, etc.). By mimicking ( or introducing in this world) the process of life’s cycle it gives life, or functional operations to the initial object. be it an amino acid at life’s origins.
So, it is not the genome ( which is merely a pile to-be-a-system-itself of diversified copies of this matrixial formula) that determines the organization of biological systems, because: 1) there was only one formation of biological system, which comprises abiogenesis finishing with the first complete and working cell system; 2) All following species of this biological systems already inherited the organization from its parent system.
I think that every researcher in this topic that does not know the Matrix/DNA formula never will understand these multilevel interactions, connections and hierarchy of life, atoms, astronomic systems, in the right way. So, if he/she gets new discoveries will be by accident and not guided by a solid theory.

Universal Systems Model : Academic perspective x Matrix/DNA perspective

quinta-feira, agosto 24th, 2017


Na area academica do ensino denominada Universal Systems Model, eles usam um diagrama:

Input > Process > Output > Feedback > Input > Process > ….

Observe que isto e’ um diagrama resumido da formula da Matrix/DNA, onde:

Input = F1

Process = F2,F3.F4,F6

Output = F7

Feedback = F7>F1

A principal diferenca e’ que a formula da Matrix/DNA se refere a sistemas naturais, os quais funcionam movidos pela forsa do ciclo vital, enquanto que a formula academica se refere a sistemas mecanicos, para maquinas ou operacoes automatizadas. Uma segunda nota, e’ a que ( como vemos no texto abaixo), os academicos se referem a ” open loop ” e “closed loops”, onde o Sistema comeca com o open loop e o component “feedback” constitui o closed loop, numa clara referencia aos estados de sistemas abertos e sistemas fechados da formula da Matrix/DNA.

The MatrixDNA as Astronomic Closed System

The MatrixDNA as Astronomic Closed System

Devo pesquisar os textos academicos desta area, assim como os nomes tecnicos da disciplina, etc.,  para buscar modos de interacao entre as duas formulas visando aplicar a formula da Matrix/DNA para otimizar a tecnologia.

Neste sentido, o primeiro passo e’ googlar ” universal systems model” e ver os itens. Iniciando, registro o link para um PDF:

Technology Competencies Problem-Solving
Fundamentals of Technology

Onde se inicia lendo:

Explain the universal systems model

• Explain the components of the universal systems model

• Explain systems models in the context of the systems of technology such as communication and transportation

• Explain the elements or resources of technology as inputs to systems
The universal systems model is an attempt to graphically depict processes of all sorts. Viewing something through the scheme of the universal systems model is an attempt to simplify something that is relatively complex. The model typically includes a look at system inputs, processes, and outputs for open loop systems and a fourth component, feedback, is included in systems that are perceived to be closed loops.

These are often referred to as the “resources of technology.” System Inputs • People • Information • Tools and Machines • Materials • Energy • Time • Capital

Processes vary depending on the area of endeavor. For example, one of the main processes for a manufacturing company would be secondary material processes: separating, combining, conditioning, forming, and casting. However, a communication company would be encoding, storing, retrieving, transmitting, receiving, and decoding information. Outputs generally include certain eventualities such as expected, unexpected, desirable, and undesirable. For example, a manufacturer expected to make a profit, and this is desirable. However, the company did not expect to pollute the water when it accidentally spilled chemicals onto its loading dock. This output is undesireable.

Systems experience entropy.  Entropy is the degradation of all systems whether man-made or natural.  For example, the fuel system in an automobile malfunctions over time. Systems and sub-systems are interdependent. For example, in order for the automobile’s fuel and electrical systems to work together, the engine must be correctly timed.

Component Systems of Technology
The component systems of technology are:
B. Communication Systems – Systems that change information into messages that can be transmitted.  These systems include a sender, message, receiver, and feedback.
B.  Structural Systems – Systems that use goods and materials to build structures that will resist external force, support a load, and hold each structural element in a relative position to other parts.
C.  Manufacturing Systems – Systems using materials and processes to produce usable products.
D.  Energy, Power and Transportation Systems – Systems that convert energy into mechanical, fluid, electrical, radiant, chemical, and thermal energy.

The Controversy about the Making of an Ideal Society

segunda-feira, maio 2nd, 2016


( Titulo em Portugues: Buscando o Melhor Sistema Social: Diferenças de visões entre MatrixLight/DNA e Modernos Acadêmicos )

This article was here copied ( in black) because I saw that I can not agree with lots of things and must analise each phrase inserting the MatrixLight/DNA criticism ( blue letters).

Economics And The Making of A Perfect Society

by Matteo Marsili

CC 2.0 NIH/NIAIDWe humans are the only species that makes the rules by which we interact. Animals don’t. They are subject to the law of the jungle,…

I don’t agree. All types of societies created till now mimics the rules of te jungle, where there are big predators ( the high class), medium predators (middle class) and preys ( the real producers and really vampirized by the other two class). Which humans makes the law? The most numerous class of humans, the poor, be it in feudalism, capitalism or communism, never made any laws.


while we make laws that govern our behavior and design institutions with “laws of motion.”

So, in the same way as we can build airplanes and make them as efficient as possible, why can’t we also build efficient societies? Each of us has a different idea of what efficient means here, but there are minimal requirements we should all agree with. For example, a society should make collective decisions that are not self-contradictory and that cannot be manipulated by introducing irrelevant alternatives.

Sadly, there is no recipe for organizing a society in such a way as to achieve even these minimal requirements.

Yes there is one; a step forward the formula applied by Nature for creating working natural systems. It is known and called MatrixLight/DNA formula,which is the program template behind every natural system, from atoms to galaxies to human brains. The problem is that nature has applied only two states of that formula, one for ordered state which is the closed system aspect and the other is opened system for chaotic states, like Earth biosphere. Ants and bees societies have mimicked the mechanistic ordered closed system, while human beings are applying the dispersive opened system but with tendency to becomes a closed system also if will prevail the big predators. Dinosaurs ( and all big predators,like lions, wales, eagles, etc. went this suicide way). The ideal state of the formula should be “self-oriented evolution synchronized with universal ( cosmological plus biological) evolution”.

The problem has no solution besides dictatorship. This is a theorem that Kenneth Arrow, the Albert Einstein of economics, proved in the fifties.

What?! The unconditional rule of big predators with no resistance? This is a consciousness-evolution stopper, which is the force acting naturally just here and now. Nature never tolerated it before, so it will not permit long life to any system built against its tendency. The ants and bees societies did it, that’s why they are in a dead end.


Amartya Sen, another economist, argues that this is actually not a bad result. All it says is that individual opinion and interests are not enough to organize a society. You need discussion and a process by which people’s view converge on the common good. That’s democracy.

The Greeks might have known this, because in times when they had no time to discuss, they used to turn to dictatorship.

That’s why the ancient Greek civilization is extincted. Dictatorship is an aberration, it still works as the rule of the jungle in chaotic state, but it will be destroyed.

If we can’t design a perfect society, maybe we can aim at understanding the ones we have. In principle, a society is a collection of many interacting individuals, so this looks like the problem of deriving the laws of a collection of many interacting particles, like a gas in physics. If particles are subject to forces, individuals are subject to economic incentives: they will do what makes them better off. There has been a great effort by mathematical economists to derive economic laws from profit seeking behavior of individuals.

Another big mistake. Particles in gaz does no create any working system and less tan it, any system that could evolve towards its transcendence. As the History of the Universe shows to us, any new system emerges from the death of a prior system. Initially there is chaotic state due extreme chocking competition and selfishness of all elements. The chaos leads all elements to suffering and slow down the motion, which will downing the temperature, the conflicts are changed by touching, cooperation grows, a new system is established. The search for profit encours into extreme competition, conflicts, and never goes towards the transcendence of the social system, which could avoid new extermination. Changing competition by cooperation is a matter of changing the moral code and this is a matter of a better world view. Yours suggestion is doing a bad service here.

Remarkably, this has shown that, in an ideal world where every wishable thing can be traded, letting competitive markets run free is enough to bring the society to an optimum.

Competitive market running free? But,… you should search for competitive humans running free. And it means ” initial equal conditions”, before the competition stars. You know… 90 % of the world population had no initial resources, they were homeless, never were free. The initial owner of the whole territory are the lions, sharks, eagles. This was the beginning of capitalism. Communism has long gone? Of course, the communist lions were much less strong in the competition with the traditional capitalist lions. Remember that communism was gone due a could war, it means, a war inside the same species. 

What a strong argument in the cold war era, when the ideals of free markets (capitalism) were clashing with those of centrally planned (communist) economies! Communism has long gone, but we also realized that our world is far from those ideal conditions where free markets are enough to make things work. On top of that, behavioral economists and neuro-economists have shown that individuals do not just care about their own interests, and sometimes behave irrationally. In spite of a few financial crises after the fall of the Berlin wall, much of our political economics (the “laws of motion” of our societies) are still based on the free-markets capitalist ideology.

Capitalism is similar to economic Darwinism: competition in free markets selects the fittest firms, those producing most efficiently what consumers demand. Yet, as Darwinian evolution has produced strange creatures like dinosaurs, our “free markets” have produced “too-big-to-fail” banks.

The problem is that Darwinian Theory does not describes the ideal natural process of evolution, in universal terms. It is merely a non complete description of micro-cycles evolution, like the biological evolution in state of chaos. Then, the selected fittest of Earth’s life evolution never had long life, all them goes to extinction, like all civilizations and emperors created till now as extension of the animals’ jungle rules.  Darwin and still the Modern Synthesis have seen only three evolutionary variables, but, for ideal systems there are seven variables, most coming from the organization of thermodynamic systems. While our moral code and world view is driven by Darwinian evolution we never will grasp the real ideal universal process of evolution for crating the best social system. 

These, like black holes, are distorting economies’ space-time around them, absorbing all they come in contact with, scaring the world’s economy with threats of systemic failures.

CC The TaxHaven, AP Photo/Richard DrewWe don’t fly people on airplanes if we’re not sure how those airplanes work. Yet we fly the whole world’s economy on financial markets that are designed by us, with rules that we write. But we don’t understand how they work. Isn’t it a paradox?

Not for me. The MatrixLight/DNA formula for natural systems explains the apparent paradox. One thing is… a system opened to its own evolution for not being destroyed by natural forces never can leaving the flow of energy/information, beyond the point where begins the entropic process. Biological life is here today due obeying this rule with chirality, not absorbing molecules spinning right where entropy leaves. So, when a social element gets more material resources than it needs for surviving in acceptable conditions, instead going spinning entropically, it should to deviate the resources for expanding the system into the external world. We do it when investing in space exploration. The problem is that most human beings keeps the exceedingly resource because they want own paradises… the entropic realm.

It’s a very expensive paradox, given the cost of the last financial crisis. It’s not clear whether we can afford the cost of leaving economics as a pseudo-science. We have made tremendous advances in understanding how collective phenomena emerge from interactions between individuals. That’s Statistical Mechanics, a science whose founding father himself thought of as being naturally suited to understand our societies. We have a great deal of data, and can test hypotheses and falsify theories, which is what science is about.

Nope. Human sciences has not understanding how the ” ideal” collective phenomena emerges and Statistical Mechanics does not applies because there is no natural mechanistic system, all them are living systems. Till the stellar and galactic systems – which are the building blocks of the Universe mechanical skeleton – are born as living things, they grow, gets maturation, are attacked by entropy and dies. There is no long living or eternal mechanistic motions inside natural systems. But, you have facing yours eyes a process of nature making an idea working system: the familiar human system. A complete and working familiar system must have seven elements, one of each performing a systemic function: the baby for keeping the perpetuation, the child for keeping the growing, etc. But, a familiar ideal system has its seven elements as the right shapes of a human body under the process of life’s cycle. Divide yours lifetime by seven meaning shapes and you have a (hermaphroditic,in natural sense) the template for all natural systems. It is about life motions and not mechanics motions. Socal economic system should mimics the familiar economy system.

We cannot make experiments on real societies. Yet there are “economies” of different species of bacteria “trading” nutrients — the microbiomes in our guts, or on our skin or teeth. Bacteria choose, play games, consume and work to produce goods for others. They also have a social life. Microbial communities are a hot topic, because the equilibrium of their “economies” is intimately related to our health. Yet, they could also teach us a lot about economics and provide the experimental test bed for the theories of economic equilibria. This, I believe, is a very exciting research direction, which is why ICTP plans to have a workshop on the economics of microbial communities in 2017.

I know a little bit about bacterial societies but I can advancing that is no good idea mimicking their behaviors ans systems. Bacteria does not search their evolution, they are exterminated when the host body dies. We, humans, are in need of a model that leads us to survive the death of our actual environment and leads us towards our transcendence. 

Today, as never before, we have the tools to advance our understanding of our economies. The making of a perfect society may remain a utopic dream, but at least we can make economics a science that can better inform our globalized society on the choices it faces.

Thanks for the opportunity for testing the MatrixLight/DNA against the mainstream mindset.

Blog_MarsiliMatteo Marsili is the co-head of ICTP’s Quantitative Life Sciences Section.

Sistemas, Teoria Geral, Pensamento Sistêmico:Lista de Links/Livros Relacionados

segunda-feira, janeiro 10th, 2011

Me parece que fui o primeiro homem a encontrar a fórmula da Natureza para criar sistemas naturais. Mas este conhecimento está ameaçado de morrer comigo, na minha gaveta. O método sistêmico terá que ser a segunda fase das Ciências, uma espécie de segunda revolução em todo o conhecimento das ciências da natureza, tendo sido a primeira, o método analitico reducionista.Ele deverá dobrar a ciência atual em duas. É neste momento o conhecimento mais importante que está faltando á Humanidade, para ter os atuais obstáculos a uma existencia feliz e auto-suficiente, livre de todos os trabalhos brutos, rotineiros, indesejados, porque a fórmula de sistema fechado perfeito implica na implantação total do automatismo na produção dos bens de consumo. Todas as doenças tradicionais que não foram resolvidas pelo método reducionista dependem de conhecimentos do corpo como um sistema. Portanto é um assunto muitíssimo importante. Mas haveria alguma maneira de divulgar esta fórmula e o conhecimento que já obtive sobre sistemas naturais?

Este capitulo está aberto para esta questão. Para a continuidade da pesquisa sobre o que existe divulgado, como está o conhecimento atual do mundo lá fora sobre sistemas naturais. Para esforçar a mente em busca de uma aplicação pratica tecnológica imediata.

A fórmula começa aqui, no seu estado de onda de luz natural:

Light - The Electric-Magnetic Spectrum by Matrix/DNA

E a fórmula chega evolutivamente aqui, no seu estado de sistema perfeito, fechado em si mesmo:

E o desenho do circuito do fluxo interno de informação da fórmula da Matrix/DNA na sua versão de sistema perfeito fechado, na forma de diagrama de software

E o desenho do circuito do fluxo interno de informação da fórmula da Matrix/DNA na sua versão de sistema perfeito fechado, na forma de diagrama de software


1) Livro Fundamental: Teoria Geral dos Sistemas – Ludwig Von Bertalanffy

(Ver tambem um artigo em portugues sobre o livro de Bertalanffy no site InfoEscola:

Síntese – Teoria Geral dos Sistemas

Lucas Hermann Negri – Ciência da Computação – Udesc

2) Wikipedia: 

System, Systems science, systems theory, cybernetics, dynamical systems, thermodynamics and complex systems, Systems biology,

Systems science · Systems scientists (Conceptual · Physical · Social)

3) Definitions of Systems and Models by Michael Pidwirny, 1999-2007.

Definitionen von “System” (1572-2002) by Roland Müller, 2001-2007 (most in German).

4) Institute for Systems Biology: SBI


Pegasus Communications




Thinking about Systems


Links to Sites Related to

Systems Thinking

The System Dynamics Society
The homepage of the System Dynamics Society, including a history of system dynamics, a brief description of its tools and applications, information about the annual system dynamics conference, and information on the System Dynamics Review, a refereed journal.

Systems Thinking Practice
A map of systems thinking, cybernetics, cognition, and other resources on the Web

The Learning Org Discussion Pages
The home of the Learning-Org list, which has over 2000 members on several continents.
Older messages are archived by thread, date, and subject.

Mental Model Musings
This has a large amount of information on the history, development, and principles of systems thinking. There are also additional links to other systems thinking-related issues, such as the different systemic situations that appear frequently across disciplines, called “Archetypes.”

Systems Thinking: Archetypes
This link takes you directly to the article referenced under the link above this oen, on “archetypes.”

The System Dynamics Mailing List and Discussion Pages
Contains a mailing list and discussion group about system dynamics.

The MIT System Dynamics Group
In addition to information about the MIT System Dynamics Group and its publications, this page has links to the System Dynamics in Education Project, and other resources about system dynamics-based computer models.

The Principia Cybernetica Web
The Principia Cybernetica Web site includes a section on cybernetics &;systems theory. As the Principia Cybernetica Project uses it, “systems theory” is the result of the investigation into general principles of systems. As such, systems science is closely related to, but not identical with, systems thinking and system dynamics.

Bibliography of the works of Chris Argyris
One of the best-known writers on learning in organizations and the organizational defensive routines that prevent it. He wrote several of the classic works on impediments to learning, including Overcoming Organizational Defensive Routines, Knowledge for Action, and several articles he wrote for the Harvard Business Review (for example, “Teaching Smart People How to Learn”).

Paper on “Organizational Learning and Information Systems”

Some notes from the keynotes at the 1995 Systems Thinking in Action conference
The Systems Thinking in Action conference, presented by Pegasus Communications, is the largest systems thinking conference. This link includes notes on the keynote addresses at the 1995 conference.

Whole Systems Design Association

Deming Institute
The Institute founded by W. Edwards Deming in 1993. Contains information and a list of resources for learning more about his work.

Recent Projects Using Systems Thinking Innovatively

The Boston Indicators Project, a joint effort of The Boston Foundation and the City of Boston, Massachusetts, used systems thinking in their 2002 report, Creativity & Innovation: A Bridge to the Future. The Foundation worked with systems thinking consultants (Daniel Aronson, Four Profit Inc; Phil Clawson, Community Matters Group; and Brendan Miller and Osamu Uehara of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology) to help find a core theme in the changes in the 200 indicators related to the greater Boston area’s economic strength, civic life, community fabric, health status, diversity, and other areas. As a result, the report highlights the connections between economic innovation, transportation, the cost of living, diversity, demographics, and many other areas.