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Absurdos do cristianismo

Thursday, February 20th, 2020

Cuidado! Se você frequenta como penetra uma igreja de Jesus Cristo tendo na consciência que cometeu pecados, Jesus pode te infectar com virus! Isto de fato aconteceu na Coreia!
O eloquente pastor da igreja Shincheonji Church of Jesus veste o manto de Jesus e afirma que ele levará 144.000 pessoas com ele para o céu, seus corpos e almas, no dia do Julgamento Final. Então entra na Igreja uma crente no pastor portando o coronavirus da China e infecta já 82% dos outros crentes, dentro da Igreja! Mas como que Jesus, tendo falado a este seu servo para escolher 144.000 pessoas, pô-las dentro da Sua igreja, está vendo uma mulher infectada com virus (Ele ve e sabe tudo), entrando na Igreja e espalhando o virus entre os Seus escolhidos, não toma nenhuma providência para impedir?!

Só pode ser porque Ele viu que na Igreja tinha penetras pecadores que não podem ser inseridos nos 144.000…
Eu fico bobo como e porque aquela mente infantil dos babyes crendo que tem amigos invisíveis com quem conversam se estende a individuos na vida adulta, que continuam a crer em amigos fantasmas. Estas pessoas nunca amadurecem?
Eu suspeito que tem de existir super-consciências muito mais evoluídas que o meu feto de consciência humana. Que podem até saber que existe esta humanidade na Terra, e de vez em quando dão uma olhada no global aqui. Mas claro que eles não pensam como humanos, e sabem o que é melhor fazer para a evolução dos humanos. Talvez até, de vez em quando, se encarnam em algum humano, como Buddah, Jesus Cristo, e vem trazer as mensagens certas que vão impulsionar nos humanos a sua auto-exorcização dos instintos animais.

Mas se eles nunca tomaram nenhuma atitude drástica é porque não podem interferir no processo da evolução, isto tem que ser feito por escolha dos humanos, e certas mensagens são apropriadas para ajudar neste processo.

Eu confesso que pratico um método de meditação tentando fazer meu feto de auto-consciencia emitir sinais de particulas de luz ao espaço sideral tentando ser ouvido por consciencias evoluídas. E a súplica que envio é que venham ajudar com alguma providência possível a eles, os humanos sendo torturados. Mas ler livros de adultos ignorantes antigos que mantinham as fantasias da mentalidade infantil por conveniencia ( pregar é apenas falar e ganhar dinheiro escapando do trabalho duro a que todos os humanos foram condenados ao nascer) inventando amigos sobrenaturais praticando magicas aqui, não sou louco para tanto. Então, se eu vivesse nesta cidade da Coreia, eu jamais teria entrado nessa igreja para ouvir este pastor parasita e não teria sido um dos 82 que foram conduzidos agora ao seu inferno…

Diz a lenda que todo ano no Natal, Jesus desce do céu e passa a tarde toda conversando com o Papa no jardim do Vaticano. E nestes milhares de anos sempre ao se despedir Jesus diz: ” Ainda não foi desta vez que entramos num acordo, vocês meus fiéis não entenderam nada, mas vamos continuar tentando…”

Ai o Papa retruca: ” Mas a extrema direita está insaciavel, vampirizando cada vez mais o sangue do povo pobre. Você não pode fazer um passe de mágica para contê-los ou elimina-los?” – e Jesus responde:

“Se você conter ou eliminar as feras da selva, o gado vai apenas engordar, nunca vai vencer sua preguiça e tentar observar, raciocinar, sobre os detalhes da Natureza, esta minha Obra, para aprender os processos a imitar que os levaria a sua transcendência. E se multiplicando sem freios e sem predadores, iriam devastar a vegetação, se auto-exterminando a si proprios. Então, isto não seria pior do que lhes continuar dando uma oportunidade?”


A noticia pode ser vista em:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/20/south-korean-city-daegu-lockdown-coronavirus-outbreak-cases-soar-at-church-cult-cluster

“Shincheonji claims that its founder, Lee Man-hee, has donned the mantle of Jesus Christ and will take 144,000 people with him to Heaven, body and soul, on the Day of Judgement.”

Saturday, February 1st, 2020

Great! “Points for Reform” of Christianity, by minister John Shelby Spong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Shelby_Spong

Spong’s “Twelve Points for Reform” were originally published in The Voice, the newsletter of the Diocese of Newark, in 1998.[13] Spong elaborates on them in his book A New Christianity for a New World:

!) Theism, as a way of defining God, is dead. So most theological God-talk is today meaningless. A new way to speak of God must be found.
2) Since God can no longer be conceived in theistic terms, it becomes nonsensical to seek to understand Jesus as the incarnation of the theistic deity. So the Christology of the ages is bankrupt.
3) The Biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which human beings fell into sin is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-Darwinian nonsense.
4) The virgin birth, understood as literal biology, makes Christ’s divinity, as traditionally understood, impossible.
5) The miracle stories of the New Testament can no longer be interpreted in a post-Newtonian world as supernatural events performed by an incarnate deity.
6) The view of the cross as the sacrifice for the sins of the world is a barbarian idea based on primitive concepts of God and must be dismissed.
7) Resurrection is an action of God. Jesus was raised into the meaning of God. It therefore cannot be a physical resuscitation occurring inside human history.
8) The story of the Ascension assumed a three-tiered universe and is therefore not capable of being translated into the concepts of a post-Copernican space age.
9) There is no external, objective, revealed standard written in scripture or on tablets of stone that will govern our ethical behavior for all time.
10) Prayer cannot be a request made to a theistic deity to act in human history in a particular way.
11) The hope for life after death must be separated forever from the behavior control mentality of reward and punishment. The Church must abandon, therefore, its reliance on guilt as a motivator of behavior.
12) All human beings bear God’s image and must be respected for what each person is. Therefore, no external description of one’s being, whether based on raceethnicitygender or sexual orientation, can properly be used as the basis for either rejection or discrimination.

Prayers to humans gods does not works. So, how to pray for the right world? The force for doing it, and the force against it, are flowing through you, the light and dark faces of the Matrix. But, as fractals, they are in the end, in the future also, as a good and a bad world. So, choose the light face in you and pray to it, making effort to connect it with the light face in the end. Which must be the good God for us.

Saturday, February 1st, 2020

This article was inspired by a letter wrote by the Newark/NJ church minister John Shelby Spong. But, for you not doing the mistake I did initially, being convinced by the apparent honesty position of Shelby, I advise that his discourse can hidden a mental distortion. I was advised when I read a debate between two persons:

Person 1: “To me, that is not the type of response (the Shelby´s letter) that a crook or a liar would give.”

Person 2: “Well, just for a wee surprise , I disagree! This creature, John Shelby, is every bit as evil as Benny Hinn ( which, this person believe is a charlatan)! What he is essentially saying is that he knows that Christianity is a heap of sh*t, but he wants to keep it going under some different guise. Why doesn’t he just come out and say that he now thinks that Christianity is nonsense instead of trying to repackage it? He has came to the conclusion that the religion he preached for so long is actually garbage, why not just admit that and move on instead for trying to mislead more people? I know why. He is preying on those Christians who are having doubts about their faith. He is saying ” hey, I know that at this moment in time you are having doubts about your faith because a lot of it doesn’t make sense right now, but I had these doubts too, and here is how I overcame these doubts”. Buy my books! He’s a crook Phat, every bit as bad as Hinn and all the others. He is a liar too, completely dishonest.”

Ok, I personally also found a problem in Shelby´s letter, when he says that: ” One says that the God in whom I always believed is no more, so I will become an atheist. People make this decision daily. It is an easy way out.

No, this is not the easy way out, it is the hardest way. Because we know the universal eternal dichotomy between two opposites. Everything comes with this duality, if there is cold, must have hot. One is totally the negation, the annihilation, of the other. Nobody gets going from the most extreme alternative of one side straight on the other extreme alternative. But, our life experience has shown to us that in the extremes is not good for us. So we need move from the extremes, in this case, the extremes are “there is supernatural God, a unique God” and “there are no supernaturals, there is no God”. Deism and atheism, are not rational, intelligent, choice. I know, an atheist will not accept this statement, and I know his arguments, but I think they are not logical arguments. Same thing, a deist will not accept it. I think his arguments are not logical either.

So, what a rational intelligence can do here? Looking around, our life´s experience and real facts: for us, as a body of matter, the best position is at the thermodynamic equilibrium, the point at the middle between two opposites. So, what would be the middle between “there is a supernatural God” and “there is no supernaturals, no God” ?

I would suggest: ” There is something that is half-supernatural and half-natural, which is something that can be called by a different name other than God”

Ok, I am trying to be rational, intelligent, and honest. But,… am I really honest? There are no unconscious machiavellic plan in my suggestion? Yes, unfortunately ( it seems to me now), yes. While writing this scheme of logic I had a previous board in my mind towards witch I was driven the scheme. The previous board was – the Matrix/DNA world view. This theory is suggesting the existence of an ex-machine ( existing since before the Big Bang and beyond this perceived-by-humans Universe) creature, which is a natural system unable to do miracles ( although his knowledge can do natural things that we will believe it are miracles), that has as body, wave of light ( as described by Matrix/DNA, with internal anatomy as a living thing) which is embedded into consciousness, creating things as universes for to reproduce himself by the natural method of genetics.

So, I encountered the exactly middle point. Since I know you have not and is searching it, by my book!

Yes, maybe I am dishonesty also, like it seems to be Shelby. The big difference is that when Shelby wrote that he had lots of books to sell, and I have no book. I think it is my moral obligation with my kind, and principally to my fellows naturalist philosophers that can not live long time isolated in the virgin nature, to inform what is the result of my standing there. It seems that it does not matter if will sell one exemplar or not, my moral obligation is to write it. But I am not getting the force for doing it, it is very hard because there are thousands of topics, I don´t know which to begin with and how to choose the most importants facts and evidences and good reasonings, etc. And my actual financial situation is not good for building the right installations, buying the best devices, isolating by months or years writing this book. This is my justification: “I can´t do it at these conditions, it is not my fault.”

So, the very fact that Shelby earned millions dollars with his letters like this one, and that – I think – he was not intelligently logical at his choice – are advice for me and you before reading the following letter:

John Shelby Spong writes:

Elmo Hoffman, via the Internet, writes:

I have read much of your work and met you once at Stetson University in Deland, Florida, at a pastor’s conference. It was the same venue where I also met Marcus Borg. I am a retired civil trial lawyer and a late-life seminary graduate, now an ordained Disciples of Christ minister, although before seminary I was a lifelong Presbyterian (USA) from the same time frame and section of North Carolina as you. My question, which gives me a great deal of trouble, is: What is your basic understanding of petitionary prayer? I believe you have said, “A God who would save the life of one prayed-for cancer-stricken child and not another would be a monster.” This makes sense but gives me a great deal of trouble in considering petitionary prayer. (I have read your book Honest Prayer — I find no answer to this problem there.)

Spong replies:
Dear Elmo,

Thank you for your comments and for your question. Your question on petitionary prayer is almost always the first question that comes up wherever I go to lecture. People can talk about their understanding of God until the cows come home, but nothing really changes until they translate their understanding of God into their prayers. More than anything else, our prayers define our understanding of God. So to talk about prayer, we have to define who the God is to whom we pray. To say it differently, “Who do we think is listening?”

Most people, quite unconsciously, approach the subject of prayer with a very traditional concept of God quite operative in their minds. This God is a personal being, endowed with supernatural power, who lives somewhere outside this world, usually conceptualized as “above the sky.” While that definition has had a long history among human beings, it is a definition of God that has been rendered meaningless by the advance of human knowledge. This means that for most of us the activity of prayer does not take seriously the fact that we live in a vast universe, and that we have not yet come to grips with the fact that there is no supernatural, parental deity above the sky, keeping the divine record books on human behavior up to date and ready at any moment to intervene in human history to answer prayers. When we do embrace this fact then prayer, as normally understood, becomes an increasingly impossible idea and inevitably a declining practice. To get people to embrace this point clearly, I have suggested that the popular prayers of most people is little more than adult letters written to a Santa Claus God.

There are then two choices. One says that the God in whom I always believed is no more, so I will become an atheist. People make this decision daily. It is an easy way out.

The other says that the way I have always thought of God has become inoperative, so there must be something wrong with my definition. This stance serves to plunge us deeply into a new way of thinking about God, and that is when prayer itself begins to be redefined. Can God, for example, be conceived of not as supernatural person, but as a force present in me and flowing through me? Then perhaps prayer can be transformed into meditation and petitionary prayer becomes a call to action. The spiritual life is then transformed from the activity of a child seeking the approval of a supernatural being to being a simultaneous journey into self-discovery and into the mystery of God. It also feeds my sense of growing into oneness with the source of all life and love and with what my mentor, Paul Tillich, called the Ground of All Being. It would take a book to fill in the blank places in this quick analysis, but these are the things that today feed my ever deepening discovery of the meaning of prayer.
– John Shelby Spong

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Well… what I have to say about that? ( added later: I wrote the following before be advised that Shelby could be dishonest)

In the jungle there is chaos, horrors, predators torturing, killing and eating preys. All of them are natural systems in themselves. But, sometimes when walking in the jungle, you see a little flower. It is so careless, so alone, it does nothing bad to nobody, only spreads beautiful and perfume around. It seems to be the flow of order trying to emerge from chaos, trying to build the world of order. The plant flower is also a system in itself.

If all natural systems are made off by the same formula, how could be the bad and the good ones?

Inevitable answer: the formula has two states, two faces, one bad, other good.

Exactly! When we see the anatomy of this formula, we see that a side of its face is in state of order, the other side is in state of chaos.

This formula came from light, from before and beyond the Big Bang. So, the formula works as fractals, the little one inside me and the big one beyond this Universe, as the final world. Standing inside this Universe we never will know the thru about it, then, less we will know what´s going on beyond it, or before it. What did this formula in this way, being bad and being good, being chaos and being order?

It matters for you, just now and here, in the shape of a human being? It matters for me, I am very curious, I need to know the ultimate thru – if there is one, or not, I need know it. But I know it is impossible for now.

What matters most now? That I wish my people, the preys of the jungle, the flower in the jungle, gets a better world with better life. And these things is only possible in the good world. The force for building the good world and the force for building the bad world are flowing inside me, as the good and the bad face of the Matrix.

So, my prayer was transformed into meditation, remembering the shapes of the Matrix – like as closed or opened systems – and thinking about that, trying to know which is the good face. In the day I will find it, the next step is searching the signal that can connect the good face inside me with its fractal good face in the end.

The majority of evidences that I know till now are suggesting that one characteristic of the good face is to be an opened system. And they are suggesting that the bad face – a closed system – is responsible, for instance, for our selfish gene. By now, then, I am betting towards the face of the Matrix as opened system. And, so, the face of the big fractal. I am imagining now a kind of sinapse as channel linking these two faces. That´s my prayer.

Now I need know, it the good face of the Matrix is just here, in the shape of human beings, what it must do for building the good world? The final suggestion of the Matrix/DNA tells a lot about it: ” You, humanity, are 8 billions self-conscious genes building the embryo of cosmic consciousness. So, look to genes, looking how they works, how they must relates to one another, and do the same.”

But do not do what I am doing, before You must consulting yours world view, making yours imaginations and choices. maybe I am medium wrong, or totally wrong, or a little bit right.

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E-mail enviado a John Shelby via secção de contacts do site https://progressingspirit.com/ em 01/02/2020

I am the author of ” The Universal Formula Matrix/DNA of All Natural Systems and Life´s Cycles Theory”.
I found my solution about a new vision of God and a new way of praying, inspired under Dr. Spong phrase: ” Can God, for example, be conceived of not as supernatural person, but as a force present in me and flowing through me? Then perhaps prayer can be transformed into meditation and petitionary prayer becomes a call to action. “

So, I wrote an article at my website, with the following text:

In the jungle there is chaos, horrors, predators torturing, killing and eating preys. All of them are natural systems in themselves. But, sometimes when walking in the jungle, you see a little flower. It is so careless, so alone, it does nothing bad to nobody, only spreads beautiful and perfume around. It seems to be the flow of order trying to emerge from chaos, trying to build the world of order. The plant flower is also a system in itself.

If all natural systems are made off by the same formula, how could be the bad and the good ones?

Inevitable answer: the formula has two states, two faces, one bad, other good.

Exactly! When we see the anatomy of this formula, we see that a side of its face is in state of order, the other side is in state of chaos.

This formula came from light, from before and beyond the Big Bang. So, the formula works as fractals, the little one inside me and the big one beyond this Universe, as the final world. Standing inside this Universe we never will know the thru about it, then, less we will know what´s going on beyond it, or before it. What did this formula in this way, being bad and being good, being chaos and being order?

It matters for you, just now and here, in the shape of a human being? It matters for me, I am very curious, I need to know the ultimate thru – if there is one, or not, I need know it. But I know it is impossible for now.

What matters most now? That I wish my people, the preys of the jungle, the flower in the jungle, gets a better world with better life. And these things is only possible in the good world. The force for building the good world and the force for building the bad world are flowing inside me, as the good and the bad face of the Matrix.

So, my prayer was transformed into meditation, remembering the shapes of the Matrix – like as closed or opened systems – and thinking about that, trying to know which is the good face. In the day I will find it, the next step is searching the signal that can connect the good face inside me with its fractal good face in the end.

The majority of evidences that I know till now are suggesting that one characteristic of the good face is to be an opened system. And they are suggesting that the bad face – a closed system – is responsible, for instance, for our selfish gene. By now, then, I am betting towards the face of the Matrix as opened system. And, so, the face of the big fractal. I am imagining now a kind of sinapse as channel linking these two faces. That´s my prayer.

Now I need know, it the good face of the Matrix is just here, in the shape of human beings, what it must do for building the good world? The final suggestion of the Matrix/DNA tells a lot about it: ” You, humanity, are 8 billions self-conscious genes building the embryo of cosmic consciousness. So, look to genes, looking how they works, how they must relates to one another, and do the same.”

But do not do what I am doing, before You must consulting yours world view, making yours imaginations and choices. maybe I am medium wrong, or totally wrong, or a little bit right.”

My discoveries in the jungle lead to a new world view, and about Jesus Christ, it is suggesting the same idea of Dr. Shelby. Since I also living in Newark, NJ, and saw Mr. John in the church, I would appreciate an answer about if it is possible we meet for a talk, I think that it will be good for both… Thanks

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Post em português publicado no Facebook (01/02/20):

Um Deus que salvasse uma criança morrendo de cancer para quem foram feitas algumas orações, e não salvasse outra criança na mesma situação, para a qual ninguém orou, seria um monstro. Da mesma forma, salvar aquele que falou com Ele em oração e não salvar o outro que não falou com Ele, seria outro monstro.
Se você visse um horrível leão sendo circundado pelo fogo, sabendo que ele iria morrer queimado e você tivesse poder, você o salvaria ou assisti-lo-ia morrer sob tortura?

Eu o salvaria, mesmo considerando-o meu pior inimigo, e mesmo que teria de mante-lo na jaula depois para não matar mais ninguém. E penso que seria um monstro assistindo-o morrer sob tortura.

O jeito que os humanos estão orando para o tipo de Deus que construíram em imagem, não tem funcionado. Conheci pessoas que sempre se acreditaram cidadãos do bem, que quando começaram a envelhecer viveram mais nas igrejas orando que em outro lugar, e tiveram mortes torturadas por dezenas de anos sob terríveis doenças. Não adianta fechar os olhos para isso, acho que a maioria conheceu pessoas assim.

Então o que fazer?

Neste artigo cito uma carta de um pastor Americano, no qual penso existir imensa sabedoria. Ele percebeu este problema de Deus e nossas orações. E então ficou um tempo perdido, pois ele precisava acreditar em algo, ele queria ter motivos para rezar nas suas noites solitárias. A resposta que ele encontrou, acho que foi brilhante, não apenas porque, foi a mesma que encontrei antes. Porque não trocar um deus supernatural existindo fora do nosso mundo por uma força benéfica existindo dentro de você? E criar uma meditação em que esta força se expande e guie suas decisões?

Eu fiz uma investigação que ninguém mais fez, cheguei a conclusão que dentro de mim existe uma força a qual denominei de Matrix/DNA. Até desenhei sua anatomia baseando nos fatos conhecidos. Vi que essa força carrega o dualismo em si, ela tem a face boa e a face má ao mesmo tempo. Mas ela não existe apenas em mim. As duas faces estão como grandes fractais no futuro, no fim, como o mundo bom e o mundo ruim. Ora claro que escolhi expandir a face boa, oprimir a face ruim, e buscar o canal de comunicação entre o pequeno fractal da face boa em mim e a face boa no final.

Mas então surgiu a questão: ok, já sei como orar, como transformar a oração em meditação interna mexendo com minhas energias internas, mas o grande problema continua: o que deve fazer neste mundo um representante da face boa com a meta de construir o mundo bom?

A mesma formula da Matrix/DNA deu uma resposta: ” Você, Humanidade. composta de 8 bilhões de genes semi-conscientes estão aqui para construir um embrião da auto-consciência cósmica. Então observe os genes trabalhando, como eles se unem para construir um novo ser, como eles se relacionam, e simplesmente, faça igual.”

Grande! Por mim estou satisfeito, preenchido até o ultimo dos meus dias. Sinto não poder me comunicar com o pastor americano para lhe contar a solução que encontrei. Não que esteja sugerindo que mais alguém me imite, pois não sei se acertei ou se errei feio, apenas sei que isto satisfaz as exigências da minha racionalidade e para mim serviu. Cada qual deve escolher o que fazer, inclusive é livre para continuar a imaginado o mesmo Deus e fazendo as mesmas orações, pois também sabemos de caos em que elas ajudaram, mesmo que tenham funcionado como o efeito placebo. No link abaixo mostro a carta do pastor, porem esta em inglês: https://theuniversalmatrix.com

Com 44% de ateus, Holanda transforma igrejas em livrarias, cafés e casas de shows

Sunday, January 12th, 2020

https://razoesparaacreditar.com/ateus-holanda-igrejas-em-livrarias/

Então vamos mal. Saímos do hospício e entramos no manicômio. Qualquer minimo de racionalidade vai calcular que tem de haver consciências muito mais elevadas que esse feto de consciência dos humanos na Terra. Pode existir algumas delas tao elevadas que podem ser mais poderosas que os deuses imaginados pelos deístas das religiões humanas. E pela definição, ateu é aquele que não aceita tal grandeza. Isto é o outro lado da mesma moeda mistica, crer no que não é racional. Um pais sera realmente uma porta aberta para a transcendência dessa especie humana em algo superior quando a maioria for agnóstica. O agnóstico diria: “Claro que não deve existir o absurdo deus da bíblia, mas se existe ou não geradores de universos por métodos naturais eu não sei e não tem como saber com este nosso cérebro que não seria capaz de processar as informações de uma Verdade Ultima… se é que ela existe… ” Estes indivíduos são tão perigosos como os deístas porque se tornaram assim crendo que as Ciências Humanas já sabe muito ou tudo do mundo e sentem firmeza nessa visão do mundo que se tornam intelectos arrogantes, a matéria-prima das ditaduras. Quando penso na imensidão apenas deste Universo com 300 bilhões de galaxias ou mais… tenho que rir deste povo… Eu sei que eu não sei..

Mas ainda assim é melhor o que esta acontecendo na Holanda do que o crescimento dos evangélicos no Brasil ( um retrocesso) … e a razão da diferença é o maior conhecimento dos fenômenos naturais invisíveis do macro e do microcosmo por parte dos holandeses.

Lista dos péssimos e errados designers na Natureza

Thursday, December 5th, 2019

Lista feita por um anônimo:

The process of evolution by natural selection is estimated to have an IQ of about 1. It works by trial and error, mostly error. It takes hundreds of thousands of years because it is so stupid. In contrast, Yahweh is alleged to have an IQ of ∞. For some reason, he is allegedly extremely partial to humans over all other species. Evolution works by spawning variants almost identical to the parents and natural selection wipes out all but the best of them. It takes about 200 million years to notice any appreciable cumulative difference in the current generation. This means that the humans who were living at the dawn of agriculture 10,000 ago were for all practical purposes identical to us. Many creationists erroneously imagine evolution is the morphing of a single individual into a new species that takes place over a few seconds. The animal kingdom exhibits so much bungling in their design, it can’t be the work of a competent designer, much less a divine one. Which designer more likely joined the windpipe of a human to his esophagus so that if he is inattentive for even a second he can choke to death? Which designer more likely gave much better eyes and lungs to birds than to humans? Humans have the optic nerve attached to the wrong side of the retina causing a blind spot. Which designer more likely gave man a spine more suited for a quadruped, meaning he would be vulnerable to back pain? Which designer more likely gave women birth canals far too small for extruding babies (or babies with heads too big). Other animals don’t have that problem. Which designer more likely gave humans teeth that are prone to cavities and that wear out part way through life? Which designer more likely made the laryngeal nerve in a giraffe do a 4.57 metres (15 ft) needless detour? Which designer more likely added useless organs like vestigial legs on snakes, appendixes in humans, vestigial pelvises in whales, dew claws on dogs, chestnuts on horses (vestigial toes)? Which designer more likely gave the crocodile belly armour, but not the human? Which designer more likely gave humans bodies that craved foods, chemicals and drugs that were harmful to them? Which designer more likely gave humans bodies that craved a sedentary existence when they needed exercise to survive? Which designer more likely gave koalas backward-facing pouches tending to dump the young out on the ground? Which designer would pack the genome with vestigial genes from ancestor species? Creationists insist there is no such thing as ancestor species. They claim Yahweh created each species from scratch. Any similarity between species (e.g. the various types of rat) is as illusion. Which designer more likely put an additional chameleon-style visual system in a human which does not provide conscious vision, along with the usual conscious one? Evolution can explain why it is there. Intelligent Design cannot. Creationists have a problem. If they ascribe all this incompetence to Yahweh, he will be seriously insulted.

A desilusão e a barbara moral das religiões biblicas

Wednesday, December 4th, 2019

‎”Se houver um Deus, Ele terá que implorar meu perdão.”

Uma frase que foi esculpida nas paredes de uma cela de campo de concentração durante a Segunda Guerra Mundial por um prisioneiro judeu.

” Pai, o Pai, porque me abandonastes?

Segundo a Biblia, ultima frase de Jesus Cristo morrendo torturado na cruz.

Minha madrasta foi uma autentica serva do Deus sugerido pela Biblia que ela leu e releu e sabia cada paragrafo de cor. Doava muito alem do dizimo para a igreja e seus bazares beneficentes e passava mais tempo ajudando na igreja que em casa. Quando adoeceu aos 75 anos com Alzheimer, nunca mais apareceu ninguem da igreja para ajuda-la e ficou mais de des anos vegetando num sofrimento horrível com essa doenca que paralisa todo o corpo. Qual seria a frase dela para o Deus da Biblia quando morreu?

Eu nunca vou aceitar nenhum tipo de intermediário entre eu e Deus. Nem humano, nem extraterrestre, nem espíritos, nem antigos judeus humanos. Claro que os tres exemplos acima mostram que o relacionamento entre Deus e humanos é totalmente diferente do relacionamento entre humanos e o Deus descrito na Biblia. E não consigo entender como os seguidores da Biblia em pleno século XX não entendem isso.

O custo desse erro infantil, fatal, o alto preço a pagar, é o individuo fazer coisas na vida sem inteligencia firmada na realidade porque fez as coisas na vida firmadas numa crença, num Deus errado, coisas que acarretam estas consequências no final da vida.

Se voce analisar corretamente, perceberas que nos tres exemplos acima os tres individuos fizeram as coisas que resultaram naturalmente, fisicamente, nas trágicas consequências. Fizeram o que a Biblia mandou e se f…

Procure voce o tipo de Deus que sua intuição sugerir e fique com Ele, apenas você e mais ninguem. E não queira prega-lo a outros que pelas suas intuições diferentes pensarão num tipo de Deus em alguma coisa diferente do seu, e talvez os deuses dos outros estejam mais perto da verdade que o nosso.

Os defensores deste livro escrito por bárbaros alegam que se nao fosse a biblia nao haveria como civilizar uma especie que nasce com os instintos barbaros da besta fera. Dizem que se existe moral nesta civilizacao é porque ela veio de Deus – mas do tipo de Deus bárbaro, vingativo, cruel, imaginado por eles, o qual nada mais é que uma auto-projecao do barbarismo selvagem que estava encriptado na mente dos autores. Abaixo esta uma lista feita por um anonimo das morais sugeridas na Biblia:

Your Morality Came From God?? What you really mean is your morality came from the bible. You are presuming god wrote the bible despite all evidence to the contrary. Biblical morality is so insane and so out of date, even the most fanatical Christians ignore it, while giving it lip service. e.g. beat your wife and kids. dash out the brains of babes of neighbouring tribes. do not use antibiotics. force women to marry their rapists. keep slaves. kill anyone who eats leftovers on the third day. kill adulterous women. kill all Ameleks or any of dozens of other ethnicities. kill all Sunday shoppers. kill all brides without hymens. kill all gays, not just refuse to make them cakes. kill all prostitutes. kill all unwed mothers. kill all witches. kill anyone of a different religion and all their non-Christian friends. kill anyone who cuts his hair or beard. Elsewhere it condemns you for not trimming your beard. Elsewhere it demands rounded and square shapes. You can’t win. kill anyone who eats a shrimp, lobster, owl, rabbit, rare roast, snail, hare, clam, shrimp, oyster, camel, pork, swan, owl, eagle, osprey, bat, dog, locust, beetle or dozens of other animals. kill anyone who grows more than one species of plant in a field. kill anyone who owns a painting. kill anyone who rakes leaves on Sunday. kill anyone who says the word god. kill anyone who wears more than one type of fibre in his clothing. kill anyone with a statue in their yard. kill anyone with a tattoo. kill females who speak in public. kill sassy teens. obey rules involving ritual uncleanliness of menstruation. you must sacrifice animals. you must sacrifice your first born to Yahweh on an altar. you must use separate cookware and dishes for milk and meat. you must love your enemies. you must sell all you have and give the proceeds to the poor. Take no thought for the morrow. Become a homeless person. you must abandon your family. being horny is equivalent to adultery, but only for heterosexual males. This encourages real adultery on the grounds of being hanged as a sheep as a lamb. The purpose of this law is to keep males perpetually guilty and hence easy to manipulate. This is just the fantasy of a paedophile priest, who inspired Islam’s 72 virgins. It is ok to beat your slaves so long as they do not die immediately. JWs claim the bible commands no blood transfusions, even if it means death. There is no such commandment. Transfusions were not invented until 1818. There are commandments about eating blood, but JWs ignore the other dietary commandments. That’s not morality. That is obsessive-compulsive disorder. None of those commandments makes any sense except avoiding shellfish in a world without refrigeration, but there is no need to kill anyone. But you don’t behave like a barbarian even though you ignore the bible. So you must have some other primary source of morality namely what your culture considers acceptable behaviour and what your legal system says is acceptable. You can’t be serious proposing biblical morality to be enforced with law. You need to read the bible cover to cover before making such a preposterous claim.

O conflito da Religião com o Acaso na Teoria da Evolução, e a tolerância da Matrix/DNA

Wednesday, October 16th, 2019

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Randomness and religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randomness

Randomness can be seen as conflicting with the deterministic ideas of some religions, such as those where the universe is created by an omniscient deity who is aware of all past and future events. If the universe is regarded to have a purpose, then randomness can be seen as impossible. This is one of the rationales for religious opposition to evolution, which states that non-random selection is applied to the results of random genetic variation.

Hindu and Buddhist philosophies state that any event is the result of previous events, as reflected in the concept of karma, and as such there is no such thing as a random event or a first event.

Na teoria da Matrix/DNA existe e não-existe randomness. O destino do Universo esta pre-determinado, aqui esta ocorrendo um processo de reprodução genética, o embrião vai nascer e o Universo sera descartado como a placenta ( a não ser que seja possível existir uma força mais potente que o universo, vinda de fora, e interrompa a gestação, pois o ser que fecundou esta gestação não é magico, nem omnipotente, é simplesmente um ser natural). Então num processo de reprodução, todos os passos no aumento da complexidade são interpretados pelos humanos como sendo um processo de evolução, o que esta certo, relativisticamente falando. Se todos os passos estão pre-determinados, não teria lugar para acontecimentos ou estruturas formadas pelo acaso no tronco da arvore da evolução. Mas acontece que em paralelo a arquitetura que esta sendo o objeto da reprodução, o mundo esta se movendo, acontecimentos acontecem… (bah…), chuvas chovem, e as vezes estes acontecimentos penetram a dimensão da arquitetura. Podem causar um repentina mutação genética, mas geralmente são logo descartadas pela Natureza quando não batem com o template, o genoma, sendo seguido. Porem, ainda por acaso, pode ser que um evento ao acaso produziu uma mutação que é exatamente a mutação que a Natureza ia produzir a seguir, e nesses casos, para que a Natureza iria descartar e refazer o mesmo? Creio mesmo que a Natureza nem pode saber o que fé mutação programada ou mutação ao acaso. Não, a mutação ao acaso é selecionada pelo template, que é a forma final da especie sendo reproduzida, e mantida no tronco da arvore da evolução. No conflict with randomness.

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PESQUISA SOBRE A TEORIA DO ACASO:

Randomness

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Randomness is the lack of pattern or predictability in events.[1] A random sequence of events, symbols or steps has no order and does not follow an intelligible pattern or combination. Individual random events are by definition unpredictable, but in many cases the frequency of different outcomes over numerous events (or “trials”) is predictable. For example, when throwing two dice, the outcome of any particular roll is unpredictable, but a sum of 7 will occur twice as often as 4. In this view, randomness is a measure of uncertainty of an outcome, rather than haphazardness, and applies to concepts of chance, probability, and information entropy. ( continua…)











Religiões: Origens e evolução – scientific paper

Friday, October 11th, 2019

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Hunter-Gatherers and the Origins of Religion

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12110-016-9260-0

( não li o paper – Ler que é de livre  acesso )











Imaginação: Muito importante, o que é, de onde vem…

Friday, October 4th, 2019

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A imaginação é um fenômeno real que esta sempre se manifestando e afetando nossas vidas. Portanto precisamos tentar saber o que ela é, de fato, apesar de saber-mos ser isso quase impossível, pois ela é invisível, intocável, incontrolável. Mas creio que nada existe neste mundo que com o devido esforço consigamos conhecer por completo, então, mesmo começando tateando no escuro, temos que enfrentar a escuridão e tatear, esse fenômeno é real e nos afeta. Principalmente para os pais será muito mais importante saber algo sobre imaginação, o que passa no interior dos cérebros em formação dos seus filhos, para saber melhor orienta-los desde o berço, para serem mais bem sucedidos na vida. O ideal seria que os adultos já estivessem conscientes dos efeitos de suas próprias imaginações em suas vidas, os efeitos negativos, e tomarem o cuidado para não passarem estas suas imaginações para seus filhos.  Por isso fui a Internet procurar o que os estudiosos e as ciências humanas já aprenderam sobre a imaginação, quais as principais teorias, etc. E lendo uma descrição técnica obtida pela filmagem dos movimentos no cérebro quando indivíduos estão imaginando, minha própria imaginação veio a mente e comecei a imaginar uma cena a qual acho que sera uma boa alegoria para se entender a imaginação. Vou tentar:

Imagine-se passeando no meio de um monte de macacos num parque florestal cercado. Você observa que eles são demasiadamente ativos, agitados, e que seus movimentos são de dois tipos: um tipo de movimentos são meras macacadas, não conduzem a nada, o macaco corre, pula de galho em galho numa direção, chega num ponto, para, nada faz, se vira a correr em outra direção, para nada fazer. O conjunto todo daqueles movimentos parece um caos total. Outro tipo de movimentos fazem mais sentido logico, estes macacos se movem na direção de uma comida, procura um galho mais baixo quando quer descer, etc. Se você mentalmente separa os dois movimentos pelos grupos de macacos observados, você terá a impressão que os movimentos lógicos mostram, ao invés do caos, um principio de ordem.

Pois quando o cérebro humano esta se formando embrionariamente, os neurônios recém-formados se comportam da mesma maneira que os seus macacos no parque. Vamos ver como a Ciência ( link abaixo), explica isso:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain )

“O cérebro se desenvolveu, desde animais inferiores, numa intrincada e orquestrada sequencia de estágios. Ele mudou de formas desde uma simples protuberância parecendo um pequeno tumor na ponta frontal de um feixe de nervos nos seus mais primitivos estados, como nas minhocas, para um complexo arranjo e ordenamento de diferentes áreas e conexões. Neurônios são  criados numa zona especial que contem células-tronco, e então imigram através dos tecidos primários para alcançarem suas definitivas posições. Uma vez que os neurônios tem se posicionado, um grosso cílio desabrocha e se torna longo, ao qual denominamos “axon”, e o cílio navega através do cérebro, se ramificando em vários galhos e se estendendo enquanto avançam, ate que alcançam seus alvos, que pode ser outro grupo ou região de neurônios, e assim formam as conexões sinápticas.

E aqui vem , na minha titubeante opinião, a parte mais importante para entender de onde veio a imaginação humana: ” Num certo numero de partes do sistema nervoso, neurônios e sinapses são produzidos em excessivo numero durante os estágios da formação, a produção de sinapses parece caótica. Mas em seguida vai ocorrendo uma ordenação, neurônios mais agitados são aquietados e se suas sinapses são desnecessárias que nada produzem de útil pra o cérebro, são inibidas ou ate eliminadas.”

Vamos voltar ao parque dos macacos. Enquanto você passeia e observa, entra no parque um grupo de adestradores dizendo que querem ordem entre os macacos. Carregam redes com as quais apanham os macacos agitados desordeiros, e trazem também bananas, dando-as como recompensa apenas aos mais calmos que se movimentam na direção de metas logicas. Agora você nota que a cena que vês é diferente da cena vista quando você entrou, o caos cedeu lugar a ordem. E’ a diferença que veria se pudesses entrar num cérebro infantil e no mesmo cérebro tornado adulto.

Voltemos ao nosso tópico, a imaginação. Quando a criança nasce, seu cérebro é o estado inicial do parque. Parece que a mente da criança tem miragens, pois ela corre numa direção, move um objeto, sem razão logica, depois muda ou joga o objeto. Nestas correrias cai, quebra objetos. Então vem os adultos reprimindo aqueles movimentos, como se os adultos fossem adestradores com redes de apanhar neurônios desordeiros e portando bananas ou elogios para recompensar neurônios que se movem com logicas.

Os adultos aqui representam o mundo real, os duros fatos da vida, que são incômodos, indesejáveis, mas não adianta lutar contra eles, porque caímos, porque quebramos nosso patrimônio, e se não disciplinar-mos nossos movimentos no sentido do trabalho construtivo, vamos morrer de fome, vamos ficar jogados ao sabor das intempéries, etc.

As miragens são tão ilógicas, tao fora da realidade, que ao contrario dos pensamentos normais que se tornam ordenados pela criação da linguagem, as miragens não tem uma ferramenta como a linguagem, o que conecta as miragens são fios virtuais que se desfazem quando afrontam a realidade. Dentre as miragens criadas pela mente as mais notáveis são as que produzem lendas, mitos, deuses imaginários, os quais são prosseguimentos dos fantasmas amigos imaginários que as crianças inventam para conversarem. E certas miragens são tão atraentes, produzem certos confortos e prazeres mentais que as crianças lutam contra os fatos para mante-las, muitas vezes continuam essa luta quando entram na vida adulta, e algumas ate morrem mantendo estas miragens.

Penso que, se certas miragens imaginativas habituais ( como por exemplo a imaginação de que somos heróis com poderes supernaturais atuando no mundo real para ser importante e mudar os fatos desagradáveis, ou que somos escolhidos enquanto os outros não são, por deuses amigos com poderes supernaturais que vão nos proteger se o teto da igreja durante a missa ruir), nos causam estados mentais agradáveis, realmente não faria mal mante-las, desde que sob certo controle e estado de vigilância, apenas para serem curtidas quando estamos bem acomodados em relativa segurança, mas afastadas assim que temos de levantar e enfrentar o mundo real. Muitos são pegos de surpresa em verdadeiras tragedias porque estavam com a cabeça no mundo da lua das miragens, e nem os seus poderes supernaturais, nem os amigos fantasmas com poderes supernaturais aparecem para salva-los. Como conseguir este controle, esta disciplina, de saber separar a hora da meditação agradável desapegada da realidade, da hora de estar no mundo real, é o que vamos procurar.

Outro fator não menos importante é o tal “imaginário social”. precisamos nos lembrar que a Humanidade é um fenômeno bastante recente no mundo, tendo em vista a escala cósmica do tempo. Em relação ao mundo universal a Humanidade surgiu nas ultimas horas. E Humanidade é uma auto-projeção mesclada de cada individuo humano, portanto as mentes individuais são mescladas e criam a mente social. Como a Humanidade nasceu muito recentemente, a mente social ainda esta na sua infância, o que nos poe uma pulga na orelha quando pensamos no tal “senso comum”, ou nas regras sociais. Pode ter certeza que são coisas infantis, carregadas de imaginação sem muita relação com a realidade do planeta, do mundo natural. Assim o amigo fantasma de cada criança se torna o amigo Deus de uma religião, com quem todos os fieis acreditam conversar. Talvez existam outras dimensões nos envolvendo, onde são possíveis existirem entidades supernaturais, quem pode saber? Mas o triste é assistir que mitos inventados com credulidade infantil como se fossem parte do mundo real por antigos analfabetos, perduram no imaginário social o qual funciona como feed-back, retroalimentando os cérebros de cada individuo da seita. os adultos humanos teriam que serem muito bem informados da realidade, da Historia, dos fenômenos naturais, para analisarem impessoalmente quais os efeitos do imaginário social sobre as vidas dos humanos, para separar o joio do trigo, e não passar os efeitos maléficos para seus filhos, os quais vão continuar sofrendo desses efeitos. Muitas vezes uma analise depurada de nossas opiniões mal informadas funcionam como estímulos aos macacos e neurônios que se movem sem metas praticas para sua melhor sobrevivência.

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trecho traduzido da Wikipedia:

The brain develops in an intricately orchestrated sequence of stages.[60] It changes in shape from a simple swelling at the front of the nerve cord in the earliest embryonic stages, to a complex array of areas and connections. Neurons are created in special zones that contain stem cells, and then migrate through the tissue to reach their ultimate locations. Once neurons have positioned themselves, their axons sprout and navigate through the brain, branching and extending as they go, until the tips reach their targets and form synaptic connections. In a number of parts of the nervous system, neurons and synapses are produced in excessive numbers during the early stages, and then the unneeded ones are pruned away.











Debate between a Creationist, a Materialist, and the Matrix/DNA world view

Wednesday, August 9th, 2017

I was in a debate in the Internet when I have an idea for explaining something of the Matrix/DNA world view in a different manner. It is interesting, so, I copied it here for thinking about tonight. What do you think?

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luvdomus  – 4 hours ago – 8/9/17: (Materialist, atheist)
The ‘jump” of abiogensis was a series of very small steps over millions of years.
There was no origins of life, so, no jump of abiogenesis. Biological systems (aka life) were built by the building blocks of this galaxy, which worked as photons-genes and became the building blocks of DNA. All known properties of life were existing in less evolved state at this galaxy, by entropy its information fail to Earth surface, as the initial conditions. See at my avatar and website the face of LUCA ( the Last Universal Common Ancestor) the evolutionary link between inorganic and organic, but it never came to Earth, it is surrounding us in the sky.
Ok I described my theory. But you said “The ‘jump” of abiogenesis was a series of very small steps over millions of years”, in an affirmative way. You was not there, you have not watched it, so you need to advise that you have a theory, like I did it. Time and more data will solve which theory is the best.
+Luvdomus – Why do you believe it happened by small steps? Science has never shown life to come from non life in small steps or big steps ever. So why would you believe it?
Santana Garcia ( Materialist)
+Luvdomus – that’s because bacteria and viruses also play a roll in the complexity of life , this video did not get to that yet. Also 4 billion years of evolving matter to living things is hardly a jump. Do you really understand how long 4 billion years is ?
Smoothsay2 Smoothsay (creationist)+Santana – Do you really believe that chemicals could assemble themselves into DNA that is programmed to build cells, rna, cellular machinery, & self correcting rna polymerase transcription functions & reproduction systems? Rather a wild accident isn’t it 4 billion years or 100 billion years do you actually believe this would happen?

Smoothsay2 – Now, imagine this belief growing. Then they will write their sacred book. ” There was a talking rock radiating light that separated the waters of the Red sea and came to Prophet Darwin saying that…”

I suspects in this way were wrote the Kuran, the Bible, etc. and, do you believe that till today there are people believing in that?! But, for telling the thru, I found that Genesis is the correct scientific description of the events that brought life and the man to Earth. It is the right description of LUCA (the Last Universal Common Ancestor) and the events creating life here. If you see and understand how works the system called LUCA ( its face is at my avatar – the life cycle of any astronomic body like Earth, and the building blocks of galaxies), you will discover all Genesis’s symbols there: the system was a paradise for X and Y (Adam and Eve), in shape of an apple, with a systemic circuit in shape of a snake, the spiral galaxy seems a tree, etc. In fact, X convinced Y to eat the apple ( which means the selfish state of closed system). And attacked by entropy the system falls to planet’s surface, in shape of genes-photons, which guided the terrestrial atoms to build aminoacids, molecules, RNA, till the first cell, which is the exactly biological copy of our sinner ancestor… the Milk Way.
Genesis is all about metaphors describing the scientific complexity for lay man! But how any ancient man knew that? 2 theories: 1) our ancestor and those events are registered at our DNA ( the junk DNA) which are at the center of our neurons and altered mental states produces flashes from that memory. Since ancient man did not know nothing about astronomy, he found the way to explain it by metaphors. 2) Aliens were here and told it… I don’t see another alternative, since I can not believe that a God of a multiverse came here…

 Louis Charles Morelli – the problem with metaphorical ideas is they are subject to any kind of interpretation so you will always will be able to make them match with any scientific or metaphysical theory.

oz surveillance –  Ok, then, I will invite you to a challenge:

 Find the scientific theory that matches with the following:
1) We built this modern city where humans will live as a paradise. But like the Brave New World of Huxley and under the Big Brother, humans will be stupid and stagnating in this shape forever. Take the red pill if you want living here;
2) Outside there are those humans cities in state of chaos, lots of problems, misery, diseases, etc. But, those people will be opened to their evolution, they could reach the galaxies. Take the blue pill if you want that.
This was the exactly situation the author described with Eve offering the apple: eat the apple, the red pill, standing forever in this “jungle” paradise I built for us; do not eat the apple and we fall in chaos far away from here…
We found that the vital principle is encoded in a light wave, like that emitted after the Big Bang. The code worked matter and built the atom system, the star system, and when went to build the galactic system… matter was reaching its supreme goal, which is to be a closed system at eternal termodynamic equillibrium.
The code could doing a choice, unifying with matter and living that paradise; or fighting matter, suffering at chaos but keeping the state of opened system, opened to its own evolution. The red pill or the blue pill?
The code choose the paradise, from the Universe came the Clausius Law, the entropy that produces the death of any system. The code falls at planets, here we are. Please, find the scientific theory that matches this metaphora like the Matrix/DNA Theory – a merely philosophical naturalist theory, matched it… Good look…
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Then, one day after this debate, I was searching the scientific news at Internet and found a great, spetacular news ( ” Bright flash of light marks incredible moment life begins”) that is just the confirmation of several theories I wrote in the debate. So, I went back writing this:
To everybody debating with me in this thread: please, see how and why the Matrix/DNA world view during the last 30 years has confirmed hundreds of its previsions. Two days ago I wrote here: ” We found that the vital principle is encoded in a light wave, like that emitted after the Big Bang”.
Today I am reading the news: ” Bright flash of light marks incredible moment life begins”. I have wrote here that in this Universe is occurring a natural genetic process of reproduction of the unknown thing that triggered the Big Bang as an act of fecundation.
And I wrote here that evolution is expanding like waves in the water: each new wave carries own the dust of the last wave and reaches more dust ahead. So the second wave of evolution receives the systems from the first wave, aggregating new information, evolving it and throwing it to next wave. The last wave has repeated all step of all waves before, that’s why a new shape, like a human embryo, repeats all evolutionary shapes. It means that the first moment of human life repeats the first moment of the Universe when the “life” of a universal natural system is began. It was a genetic code encoded by photons, then evolved to an atom like the first cell; to a nebulae of galaxies like the blastula… and so on.
I will research now what is the secret of zinc atom, it must have some property that something at the Big Bang had. But, as I said thousand times, the big secret of genome, or DNA, is that its electrons are occupied by photons with information of the life’s code. So, that light saw by scientists occurs when the male counterpart that contains the half of the code’s network meets the another half and the entire network flourishes… the mechanism is repeated when a supernova is born, as you can see at Matrix/DNA astronomical models. Three days ago another great prevision was conformed: #0 years ago when I got the copyright of this theory it contained that a star’s nucleus has a dynamics like the first frequency of light wave, which is the strongest. So, the nucleus should have a rotation fast than the above spherical rotations… This whole theory is results from calculations applying the most natural logic as I was studying the biosphere at Amazon jungle… and its right previsions has suggested that nature does not plays dice with its creatures, although we insist to play dices with her.