Posts Tagged ‘Evolution’

Debate no EvC Forum com minha participação

Thursday, January 30th, 2020
EvC Forum:
From: Matrix/DNA Theory
Message 1385 of 1385 (871207) 
01-30-2020 3:56 AM

RE: Any practical use for Universal Common Ancestor?

No, because Science has not designed the right model of UCA, yet. Are there any scientific practical use for your parents as the common ancestor species of you and yours brothers? You had the shape of an unique initial cell as also the shape of the initial cell after abiogenesis; you had the shape of fetus as the shape of reptilians: the shape of embryo as the shape of mammals. But, your parents as your UCA never existed inside yours little ovule universe during yours embryogenesis. So why the UCA of the first cell should be at Earth during abiogenesis?

So, the design of the model for UCA is not for Biology or Physics, it is for Astronomy, the space beyond this little egg-Earth, like your mother´s body was the space beyond your little egg. And why Astronomy did´n it yet? It happens that Academic Astronomy did not get the right theoretical model of astronomic systems, the formation of astros, etc, because the academy is under magical thinking: magic accidents which, instead destroying things, build on new complex things. Like any other non-existent magical gods.

Comparative anatomy between the last most evolved astronomic system from Cosmological Evolution and the first cell-biological system from Biological Evolution must be the unique rational and right method for finding the right model of UCA. I did it, I got a model, I don´t know if it is right, need more testing. But, if it is right, will be very, very useful not only for practical science and new technologies, meaning more useful for eliminating magical thinking from human mind.

It is weird thinking to make comparisons between living and non-living systems. I thought that also, till find that there is no such division between living and non-living when talking about natural systems: all properties of cells are there, working, at the right model of astronomic systems. And there where no “origins of life”, neither here neither other place, there are no “origins”, every natural system is under transformation from pre-existing systems, and evolution. The words “origins” and “life” are big prejudices to rationality because they lead us towards magical thinking with all the prejudices to humankind. Ok, mine is merely another theory, so…

There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

An strong and factual argument against the Darwinian concept of natural selection.

Friday, January 10th, 2020

Poor people have more babies than the rich people. Preys have more babies than predators. In fath, natural selection is selecting the less strong and less fitness?

Evolution x Intelligent Design controversy: data of pools in USA

Wednesday, October 9th, 2019


Mark Joseph
Posted April 25, 2013 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

“You sound as if you would resolve scientific issues in the court of public opinion, but that isn’t the way science works.”

Ah, but the illustrious William Dembski would disagree with you. Here he is babbling in a ludicrous essay entitled “Skepticism’s Prospects for Unseating Intelligent Design” which is chapter 10 in the book of essays “Science and Religion: Are They Compatible?” edited by Paul Kurtz:

“A few years ago skeptic Michael Shermer wrote a book titled Why People Believe Weird Things. Most of the weird things Shermer discusses in that book are definitely on the fringes, like Holocaust denial, alien encounters, and witch crazes–hardly the sort of stuff that’s going to make it into the public school science curriculum. Intelligent design by contrast is becoming thoroughly mainstream and threatening to do just that.
Gallup poll after Gallup poll confirms that about 90 percent of the U.S. population believes that some sort of design is behind the world. Ohio is currently the epicenter of the evolution-intelligent design controversy. Recent polls conducted by the Cleveland Plain Dealer found that 59 percent of Ohioans want both evolution and intelligent design taught in their public schools. Another 8 percent want only intelligent design taught. And another 15 percent do not want the teaching of intelligent design mandated, but do want to allow evidence against evolution to be presented in public schools. You do the arithmetic.”

Evolutionary Accelerator : mais um website/movimento social apoiado pela Matrix/DNA

Monday, July 29th, 2019


Evolutionary Accelerator

Evolution science is revealing that humanity has a critical role to play in advancing the evolutionary trajectory of life on Earth.

It reveals that the next great step in the evolutionary trajectory requires humanity to envision and build a cooperative, sustainable and evolvable global society to ensure its continued success and survival.

This platform intends to accelerate the advancement of the evolutionary trajectory. It does so by bringing together people who are developing practical initiatives to advance evolution with others who might be interested in contributing time, skills and other resources to these initiatives.

If you are looking for opportunities to consciously and intentionally contribute to advancing the evolutionary trajectory on Earth, you are in the right place.

People tend to be motivated to advance evolution once they understand the emerging science-based evolutionary worldview and its implications for humanity. This evolutionary worldview is capable of providing meaning and purpose for human existence, both for individuals as well as collectively.

Teoria Darwiniana x Cambrian Explosion

Tuesday, July 23rd, 2019


Ha 540 milhões de anos atras apareceram grande quantidade de novas especies sem evidencias de terem vindo pela evolução das especies anteriores. No quadro abaixo se nota a diferença dos dados em fóssil record entre Cambrian e pre-cambrian. Isto esta sendo usado com insistência pelos contra-evolucionistas como “prova” de que evolução não existe. na teoria da Matrix/DNA, no entanto, isto não é problema para manter a teoria de que evolução existe. Senão vejamos:

– A Matrix/DNA sugere o modelo anatômico de LUCA, como building block de sistemas astronômicos;

– A Matrix/DNA sugere um mecanismo entropico pelo qual fragmentos de LUCA – que consistem nos bits-informação do corpo de LUCA – são espalhados no espaço sideral e por vários tempos diferentes:

– A Matrix/DNA, baseada no mecanismo genético, sugere o mecanismo pelo qual estes bits-informação caem nas superfícies de planetas e tentam reconstruir o mais próximo possível o sistema astronômico de onde vieram;

– A Matrix/DNA sugere como a entropia ataca inicialmente a periferia do corpo de LUCA. A partir da periferia vai se desprendendo bits cada vez mais internos ate alcançar o centro nuclear do sistema. isto implica que informações diferentes relacionadas a diferentes estágios da reconstrução de LUCA chegam aos planetas em pacotes em tempos e lugares diferentes.

– Assim a Matrix/DNA sugere todos os passos que seriam suficientes para provocar a explosão cambriana.

– A mesma explicação serve para elucidar as novas especies, como os primatas, que surgiram a 65 milhões de anos com a queda de meteoritos: meteoritos, por estarem no espaço sideral recebem em tempos e lugares diferentes, diferentes informações chegadas a Terra.

Vejamos como argumentam os anti-evolucionistas:

The Cambrian explosion of life has long been a major hurdle for the naturalistic theory. The fossil record shows the first three quarters of the earth’s history to have nothing but very simply structured organisms. Then all of the sudden, 542 million years ago, vast quantities of complex creatures emerged without any of the evolutionary precursors demanded from Darwin’s theory.

In fact Darwin himself was perplexed by this event and in his book stated; “It’s as though they were just planted there without any evolutionary history”. He concluded that the fossil record was incomplete and said “To the question of why we do not find rich fossil deposits belonging to these…periods prior to the Cambrian system, I can give no satisfactory answer”. This fact caused great doubt in Darwin’s mind. He proposed that the fossil evidence was yet to be found and that without it his theory would collapse.

Since publishing his book, “The origin of species”, there have been new discoveries. Advanced life forms from the Cambrian era were discovered all around the world. However the findings only served to refute Darwin’s theory as there was no evolutionary species found for the Cambrian animals.

It is clear that the fossil record does not support Darwin’s theory of a common ancestor but in fact it undoubtedly refutes it. Yet the Cambrian explosion is not even mentioned in many text books and when it is mentioned it is not presented as evidence against Darwin’s theory but instead as an event that requires no further justification.

Similar situations also occur throughout time including the period after the extinction of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. This is where many modern animals, including primates, appear without any evolutionary evidence.

From observing the fossil data of the pre Cambrian period we should find evidence of evolution and a common ancestor as predicted by Darwin. We find no such evidence therefore, as Darwin himself knew, the theory is falsified. It also fails both criminal and civil legal standards of evidence.

But,… don~t forget that there are evolutionists, and they does not accept any assumption from the arguments above. Only as example, look haow they answer the text above:


I was impressed that you intend to use the ‘highest standard of evidence” in you arguments but you then spoiled it by immediately not using any standards of evidence at all.

Just taking your very first example of “A false representation of an evolutionary tree that would be typically presented as factual to young school kids“ you need to show, ‘with the highest standard of evidence’ where that diagram is used in schools, to whom and when, then show where it is wrong and why any errors might give a fatally false impression to its intended audience. Finally you have to show why it affects the ToE’s validity as settled science.

Maybe when you’ve done that to everyone’s satisfaction, you can move on to your second claim.

Biologia Evolucionária tem alguma aplicação prática na realidade?

Thursday, July 18th, 2019


Esta questão foi levantada no forum Creation v Evolution, e minha resposta postada vai abaixo:

Message 1 of 1319 (843755) 
11-20-2018 8:07 AM

I’ve been looking for a practical use in applied science for the information that all life on earth evolved from a microbe that existed billions of years ago, but can’t find any. It seems to me that the whole Universal Common Ancestor thing is completely irrelevant and useless outside the realm of evolutionary theory.

Louis Morelli
Junior Member
 post at 7/18/19

The common ancestor is astronomic, not microscopic.

Well, I have many suggestions for practical medicine and technology based on my models of LUCA. Comparative anatomy between the first living being (a complete and working eukaryotic cell system) and the last most evolved natural system (the building blocks of galaxies) drive us to build a model of the evolutionary link between the two. I got as model a surprising natural system that works like a perfect machine, almost a perpetuum motor. If mimicked technologically and applied here, we can develop a super-technology and fixing several mortal diseases. But,… neither creationists, neither materialists never thought about it, they will not help me applying it. If you want see the face of LUCA see my website.


Other post from mine: (7/19/19)

How is UCA relevant to protein folding?

From Evolutionary Biology theory of UCA, I think their model offers no use. But from Matrix/DNA model of UCA it is relevant to almost everything in technology, medicine, etc. UCA was/is a working system. Any natural system has its parts connected by a circuit, where is running the flow of informations, connecting all parts. Proteins are bits, slices of this circuit. So, if we align all proteins in the right sequence, we have rebuild the whole circuit. And we can replicate a system. And we can change the slices producing diseases, for example.

But UCA is/was more mechanical than biological. Because it is/was the evolutionary link between the last non-biological natural system (described by Newtonian mechanics and not by Biology). UCA became the fundamental unit of information of RNA/DNA because severe mutation due falling in a new environment ( Earth’s surface). Earth is inside UCA, so, it was merely a process of reproduction, or nurturing seeds.

The face of UCA is the face of DNA’s unit of information (two lateral nucleotides with 6 nitrogenous bases), which is also a wonderful working system in itself ( but the Science of Biology does not know it yet). Due Physics having the wrong cosmological model, they does not know everything about astronomic systems, our real parents in the sky, around us, and us inside them.

Now, if you are a theoretical deist, you will say Matrix/DNA is wrong, if you are a theoretical atheist you will say it is wrong. I think that rationally, any believe that separates Universal Evolution into two blocks (cosmological and Biological evolution) without a rational evolutionary link between them is magical thought, so, deism and atheism. I am here advocating a third world view, an agnostic one. I think it is my right to do it also.

ot by Biology). UCA became the fundamental unit of information of RNA/DNA because severe mutation due falling in a new environment ( Earth’s surface). Earth is inside UCA, so, it was merely a process of reproduction, or nurturing seeds.

The face of UCA is the face of DNA’s unit of information (two lateral nucleotides with 6 nitrogenous bases), which is also a wonderful working system in itself ( but the Science of Biology does not know it yet). Due Physics having the wrong cosmological model, they does not know everything about astronomic systems, our real parents in the sky, around us, and us inside them.

Now, if you are a theoretical deist, you will say Matrix/DNA is wrong, if you are a theoretical atheist you will say it is wrong. I think that rationally, any believe that separates Universal Evolution into two blocks (cosmological and Biological evolution) without a rational evolutionary link between them is magical thought, so, deism and atheism. I am here advocating a third world view, an agnostic one. I think it is my right to do it also.

How and why Nature produced wings, arms, legs…?

Monday, July 15th, 2019


Segundo a teoria da Matrix/DNA, os fenômenos naturais aos quais denominamos “membros” ou acessórios dos corpos vivos, foram criados por informações disponíveis existentes na formula universal de todos sistemas naturais. A necessidade pela sobrevivência leva as criaturas a inconscientemente fazerem expressar informações, mecanismos, processos, existentes em sua formula matricial encriptada nas unidades de informações do DNA. Por exemplo, a necessidade de uma célula inicial, esférica, se mover, agarrar alimentos, se defender, disparou o gatilho da formula que colocou a sua disposição seus recursos para serem modelados pela criatura segundo sua melhor forma de adaptação e execução de operações. Os membros por exemplo surgiram inicialmente na forma de simples cílios naquela célula primordial, e a informação para cílios estava armazenada na mesma posição dentro da formula que produziu antes a calda dos cometas, ou seja, em F5 e também na capacidade de emitir jatos de matéria armazenada em F4 e F1. Assim como para a exuberante maquinaria do motor rotativo molecular na sua base existia a informação do mecanismo na posição F1 da formula.

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Conselho de um velho pesquisador aos estudantes (postado no Facebook na pagina da Bio+ em 7/15/19):

“Não adianta muito ser mero buscador e repositório memorizado dos fenômenos observados na natureza aqui e agora. Limitar-se a isso em nada desenvolve a mente, apenas garante uma melhor habilidade no mercado de trabalho. Observe com atenção e reflita sobre o fenômeno. Busque suas causas primeiras, seu significado geral no grande concerto da natureza universal. Como aquelas iniciais forças brutas e elementos simples de 3 bilhões de anos atrás desenvolveram asas para corpos voarem, de onde a Natureza tirou isso?!! Seria alguma força ainda desconhecida que existia dentro das criaturas que tinham a capacidade de modelar a matéria segundo as necessidades de sobrevivência de tais criaturas? Isso veio de dentro para fora ou de fora para dentro? Surgem mil questões aqui que nunca foram explicadas ainda. Habituando-se a ser além de um profissional, um buscador de conhecimentos mais profundos, você pode ser alguém de destaque no assunto da biologia evolutiva e dar grandes contribuições a humanidade. Podes te surpreender onde podes chegar…


Herbert Spencer: Pioneiro no séc. XVIII a intuir a Evolução Universal Continua

Thursday, July 11th, 2019


Na origem de um corpo humano, um princípio muito simples, na forma de um ovulo, uma célula unica… Então as células começam a se multiplicarem, Mas para cada direção em torno da célula inicial vai uma célula diferenciada de todas as outras. Isto espalha a diferenciação, ou diversificação, por todo lado em volta da célula inicial. Nos meses seguintes o corpo ainda não tem vida, as células diferenciadas cada uma constrói um coisa diferente das demais, com uma função especifica. Quando todas terminam suas construções, o corpo adquire vida, como se o corpo fosse ligado numa tomada, mas o que liga, o que da a partida inicial ao corpo é uma especie de gatilho formado por todas as conexões entre as partes, que poe o todo em funcionamento. Diversificação e final integração.

Pensei neste aspecto da embriogênese porque quando obtive a formula da Matrix/DNA, observei que a figura se tratava de varias partes diferenciadas conectadas formando um sistema dinâmico, funcional. Mas na verdade tal sistema nunca existiu, pois o que o forma parte de um único corpo inicial ao qual é aplicado o processo do ciclo vital, e este faz o corpo inicial se mexer desenvolvendo-se, mudando de forma. Se houvesse apenas um corpo-astro inicial fazendo isso não haveria um sistema, pois para cada forma nova é preciso desaparecer a forma anterior, já que que esta se transforma naquela. Então vai estar sempre existindo apenas um forma, uma peça do sistema. O truque da natureza foi aplicar este processo sobre muitos corpos iguais ( creio que a original estrela gasosa), de maneira que no local apareceram todas as formas ao mesmo tempo em grande quantidade. Por motivos de sincronicidade cronológica cada parte se uniu com sua antecessora a esquerda e sua e sua sucessora a direita, perfazendo um sistema. Porem aqui, se o sistema se completasse e entrasse em funcionamento, seria um sistema fechado em si mesmo, um moto continuo. Seria eterno, infinitamente, se não houvesse a entropia. mas apesar de esta configuração celeste reproduzir exatamente o sistema que é uma onda de luz original ( que permaneceu sempre aberta), e apesar de depois se revelar como o building block do DNA, as galaxias não se constituíram desta maneira, sendo que nela, as peças continuam espalhadas sem a eventual convergência para integração.  Talvez, e provavelmente a evolução astronômica se deu como no caso das células biológicas, em duas fases diferentes, a primeira formada por simbiose e as demais seguintes por auto-reprodução.   existe ainda a possibilidade de que todas as galaxias sejam diferenciadas entre si, que se constituam peças de um grande sistema, e o Universo seja uma especie de organismo, um corpo funcional. Isto seria, digamos, um choque fantasmagórico me nossa visão do mundo, mas não acredito nisso porque me parece que a evolução, depois das galaxias seguiu não mais pelo nível astronômico, e sim pelas vias microscópicas biológicas.

Este processo parece estar em todo lugar onde se forma um sistema natural. Inclusive operando a nível psicológico humano, fazendo parte da evolução do conhecimento. A primeira vez que um índio nativo do Amazonas viu um carro chegando, apesar da novidade e curiosidade, parecia algo simples, algo como um jacaré de ferro. Devido seu interesse e curiosidade deixamos o índio entrar no carro e então seus olhos se abriram mais, ao ver a enorme parafernália de instrumentos ele começou a ver que a coisa não era tao simples. E quando abrimos o capo do carro deixando o motor a descoberto então sua mente quase estonteou com a formidável complexidade que ele viu. Mas curioso e dedicado, quando o levamos para o garimpo, ele quis ficar no local da oficina mecânica acompanhando o mecânico e foi aprendendo ate tornar-se ele mesmo um bom mecânico. O processo pelo qual passou seu cérebro naquele acréscimo de conhecimento foi o mesmo na embriogênese do corpo humano: inicial simplicidade, grande complexidade, conhecimento conectando cada parte entre si, integrando o todo, final de um ciclo evolutivo.

Em outro nível mais amplo, esse processo parece se aplicar ao Cosmos também. Um inicio muito simples, homogêneo, se abre para um grande leque de galaxias. Sabemos que no sistemas solar cada astro, cada parte esta perfeitamente encaixada numa grande conexão que faz o sistema todo operar em sincronicidade mecânica. Talvez isto tenha acontecido a nível de Universo, todas as galaxias se interconectaram e o todo funciona mecanicamente. Isto implicaria que todas as galaxias fossem diferenciadas entre si, o que não sabemos, mas sabemos que todos os planetas do sistema solar são diferenciados entre si.

Este processo poderia ser chamado de micro-ciclo das evoluções, e poderíamos vê-lo como ondas concêntricas iguais a que vemos surgindo e crescendo a partir do ponto na água parada de um lago onde caiu uma pedra. Então ele se expande por ondas, e ao enfraquecer e se desfazer uma onda logo inicia outra. As duas fazes nas formações de células e galaxias poderiam ser outra forma de ondas, com uma nova onda mais complexa sucedendo uma primeira onda mais simples. Então a evolução universal seria constituída de micros-ciclos evolucionários, os quais seriam estas ondas. Também podemos vê-lo como parte comum na formação de todo novo sistema natural.

Muito tenho refletido neste processo que surgiu enquanto calculava meus modelos teóricos e agora sou surpreendido ao ver num texto que um famoso filosofo do seculo XVIII, Herbert Spencer, intuiu isso também.

Spencer first articulated his evolutionary perspective in his essay, ‘Progress: Its Law and Cause’, published in Chapman’s Westminster Review in 1857, and which later formed the basis of the First Principles of a New System of Philosophy (1862). In it he expounded a theory of evolution which combined insights from Samuel Taylor Coleridge’s essay ‘The Theory of Life’ – itself derivative from Friedrich von Schelling’s Naturphilosophie – with a generalisation of von Baer’s law of embryological development.  Spencer posited that all structures in the universe develop from a simple, undifferentiated, homogeneity to a complex, differentiated, heterogeneity, while being accompanied by a process of greater integration of the differentiated parts. This evolutionary process could be found at work, Spencer believed, throughout the cosmos. It was a universal law, that was applying to the stars and the galaxies as much as to biological organisms, and to human social organisation as much as to the human mind. It differed from other scientific laws only by its greater generality, and the laws of the special sciences could be shown to be illustrations of this principle.

Baseando-se na sua nova teoria mescalda de evolucao cosmologica com eviolucao darwinista Spencer aplicou-a tambem para explicar a evolucao da sociedade humana. Interessante fe esta sua conclusao:

Spencer believed in two kinds of knowledge: knowledge gained by the individual and knowledge gained by the race. Intuition, or knowledge learned unconsciously, was the inherited experience of the race.

Queria ele sugerir que convergência, integração, de todas as mentes de uma generação se reduziriam colapsando-se num unco genoma que seria transmitido nas gerações seguintes? E o efeito disso seriam as espontâneas intuições?

Na questao de analise sociologica e etica moral, Spencer pensou quase tudo igual eu:

For example, aggression was a survival instinct which had been necessary in the primitive conditions of life, but was maladaptive in advanced societies. Because human instincts had a specific location in strands of brain tissue, they were subject to the Lamarckian mechanism of use-inheritance so that gradual modifications could be transmitted to future generations. Over the course of many generations the evolutionary process would ensure that human beings would become less aggressive and increasingly altruistic, leading eventually to a perfect society in which no one would cause another person pain.

Uma das nossas diferenças é que ele acreditou na evolução da sociedade baseada no darwinismo social da época com conceitos como… ” a evolução se dará pelo survival-of-the-fittest”. Ele não notou que entrou em contradição pois se ele acreditou na diminuição da agressividade humana como imperativo para a evolução social, este conceito darwinista implica na sobrevivência do predador, e não existe seleção de predador que não se personaliza como agressor. Na minha teoria, o mais fittest se torna descartado naturalmente como todos os grandes predadores foram descartados. Então acho que eu vejo essa fitness em relação ao coletivo, adaptado ao sistema social, e ele via isso em relação ao individual.

Ainda bem para mim, pois…

Spencer’s last years were characterized by a collapse of his initial optimism, replaced instead by a pessimism regarding the future of mankind.

Eu continuo com o otimismo de que a humanidade vai deixar de existir porque vai se transcender e com isso adquirir nova forma inclusive física ( mais energia e mental que massa). Acho que o pessimismo dele foi causado pelas corriqueiras noticias de barbaridades cometidas por humanos e pelas crescente ondas ou da extrema direita ou da esquerda. Para mim isto são os micro-ciclos que fazem parte de um processo maior na passagem do estado de caos que iniciamos para o estado de ordem para onde nos dirigimos.


Evolution of the Brain? What is Science Fiction, The Constraints From Real Science and the Theory from Matrix/DNA

Saturday, September 16th, 2017


Evolution of the Brain? What is Science Fiction, The Constraints From Real Science and the Theory from Matrix/DNA

Robert Beckendorff – 9/14/2017

All Biology is FLAWED in some way or another. It is up to MAN to take what Mother Nature has dished up and make adjustments and improvements. Eugenics is the future, guaranteed. Piss on all the religious idiots who oppose Human Progress. Micro-Bionics is the FUTURE: Soon enough, the entire brain and nervous system, will be enhanced with micro-chip and micro-robotic systems, the Cardio-Vascular system just the same. As humans become less dependant upon flawed raw biology, life will become much richer and longer. A whole new man made level of beauty and fitness will emmerge. Biology will be employed in our computers; Bio-Electronics will be employed in our bodies. We are about to convert Raw Biology into Man Made Bio-Technology. NO one can stop it. To Hell with all the religious fanatics, the all their BS about the “End Times”.

Louis Charles Morelli – Robert Beckendorff – ” … flawed raw biology…”

 I don’t blame Nature due flawed Biology because it seems clear that there is a cycle “chaos>order>transcendence>degeneration>chaos>order…” so, it seems Nature has three states, and this Earth biosphere emerged in state of chaos. What you are wishing about our future is merely the natural sequence, we are going to an ordered state. Our biggest problem is the human inheritance of three animal instincts – instinct for big predator, middle predator, and prey – which are product of chaos and we still carries on these in our genetics and modeling our psyche. So, if we produces high technology now, it will not be used for the well of the whole humanity but will be appropriated by the 1% as big predators against the other two class. Preys – the big mass of 90% of the population are inertial, they don’t care about human progress, only food, which is their way to extinction due overpopulation. So, if we don’t self-exorcise ourselves from these three instincts and don’t make efforts for others doing it, high technology will lead us to worst scenario: The Brave New World ( where everybody are stupid in the paradise) under the government of the Big Brother ( where included the human minds are not free).
Robert Beckendorff 2 days ago
Humans have always been ruled over and controlled by a tiny power above them. This is the natural way of things. Those who have control of knowledge in a scoiety, have the power to rule over the masses, and they do so usually in a benevolent way. Today, there is no excuse for being ignorant. We have instant global sharing, and an Internet that can settle any dispute, and answer any question.
Louis Charles Morelli 2 days ago
Robert Beckendorff – Are you a hard work in construction or 12 hours/day in a factory, as 7 billion humans works or are dependent of these workers and their misery wage? And still you can pay a college where one gets such knowledge? My friend, you don’t know the third world or the reality of the “projects” at the first world and these is 90% of humans. And for your sake, it is a tactic among the big predators of the third world that the population must be kept ignorant.
redlegagent 1 day ago
Try not to allow science FICTION to override real science.  It is one thing to merely deliver a micro-electrical pulse along a nerve track or to an area of the brain in a crude fashion so as to stimulate a response – as the nervous system is already established and you are merely mimicking energy transference.  It is another thing altogether to attempt to interface with human memories in a coherent fashion which may originate from different areas of the brain and for which we are not able to understand right now.  The same for attaching synthetic parts to our bodies – again via that already pre-established system.  So I would not hold my breath just yet waiting for human/technological hybrids as we clearly have a lot to learn yet.  Our brains are as good as nature could make them.  While science fiction loves to blather on about humans supposedly developing more advanced brain capacity – our current brains already use a lot of the resources our bodies can provide.  To increase brain capacity would require a fundamental re-working of our bodies to deliver the additional oxygen and nutrients required to sustain said higher functioning.  In short – we would over-tax our organ systems which could not deliver the necessary metabolic elements without compromising themselves in the process as our brains are already “hogs” who steal a sizeable chunk of our oxygen etc. from our blood supply.
eeeaten – 1 day ago
apparently i’m somewhat more optimistic than you three. i see no reason to ascribe laws of cycles or instincts to our fates, and i doubt these are even true. newton’s second law implies a natural move towards disorder, while specific systems within the universe may or may not have increasing complexity depending on local energy sources (eg a star). in regard to humanity and instincts, we have a tendency toward increasing civility and decreasing violence (pinker’s better angels is a great read on this), suggesting humanity is capable of creating a future for itself without tyranny or even war. i don’t think human-technological augmentation is far away at all (check out ray kurzweil’s predictions). we already have infinite-information devices in front of our eyes every day: it’s a small step for these to be accessed directly by our brains – limited only by (fast-evolving) technology. as ever, the future is scary but bright.
redlegagent -n1 day ago
Think of it like the old Westerns where the bad guys would climb a telegraph pole and listen in on the wire.  Things like devices which release a small electrical charge to a section of the brain so as to “disrupt” the electrical signals to prevent a seizure or else attaching a artificial limb which likewise is connected to the existing nerve pathways is basically the same thing.  All you are doing is applying an electrical charge which then transits the existing nerve pathways by overriding natural bio-chemical signals.  That is not the same as somehow tapping into our memories and being able to generate new memories + recall and manipulate neuron transmission in a coherent fashion.  To use artificial technology to enhance our knowledge means that we must be able to accurately access the human brain – understand what areas need to be stimulated to generate specific results – and to then be able to do that.  Suffice to say we are no where near that today.  It’s not like we have a USB plug in our brains.  Our brains process different information is different places – thus one must be able to understand and influence the entire brain to facilitate new information.  As to cultures – technology has always grown at a faster pace than human behavior.  We develop new technologies – and eventually we learn how to use them in a responsible way.  Social development is always the weak link in the chain since people are individuals – each with their own wants and needs – which is why change is always slow.  The way to stimulate altruism and empathy has always been via mass communication.  The more people are connected and see what goes on in the world around them – the more that awareness stimulates responses to what they see
Louis Charles Morelli
redlegagent – “To increase brain capacity would require a fundamental re-working of our bodies”.
Maybe not. We increased the processing capacity of computers while diminishing the size of hardware by advancing electronics. Same for the relation motor capacity/truck size. This is still fiction, but the Matrix/DNA Theory is suggesting a formula for systems made by biophotons and a network of biophotons could replace electrical chemical signals and network, without needing more nutrients from the body…
Louis Charles Morelli
eeeaten ” I see no reason to ascribe laws of cycles or instincts to our fates”.
So, how could be broken the natural course that all ancestors ( living and non-living ancestors) has followed to such fate? The answer would be ” self-exorcising the selfish gene” since that our surrounding environment ( this biosphere) is modeled by and for to keep the selfish gene. But how you will drive a human with tendency to be big predator to other humans beings – which has the abstract shape of canines in its psyche designed by genetics – to wish their self-exorcising? A predator has canines, no way to change its behavior. Take out the preys he will die.
Louis Charles Morelli
eeeaten – ” I think you’re implying our ancestors were all selfish and violent…”
No. They were all selfish, but about violence, there is the instinct for prey which is inertial, not aggressive neither for self-defense. This is our problem, the universal duality (hot/cold,male/female,etc.) is here, how to eliminate a universal duality? But it is not, as you said “is an inescapable part of our nature” The two opposites of any duality will arrive to a marriage (hot/cold = no temperature or a median temperature). So you can go to “no more human species” or a descendant more evolved shape resulting from the marriage. It is upon to us our fate. Till now the human history offers no hope. All social systems created till now mimics the rules in the jungle among animals: there is the big predators ( the 1% or high aristocracy), the middle predators (wolves, fox, as the middle class); and the preys ( the 90% still slaves and uneducated). That’s why I am fighting my fight: we need self-exorcise this instincts from our genetics and primary psyche at the same time we need insisting with others to do that, and it means you against the three class. That’s why I am no leftist, no rightist, neither neutral: we need a new kind of social system that does not mimicks animals… or death.
redlegagent –
+Louis – computers require electricity which is not an internal part of the system but rather comes from an external source.  Look at your body.  There is a reason why oxygenated blood goes directly from the left ventricle to shunt straight to your brain – your brain requires the highest amount of oxygen of all your organs in the body to sustain itself.  Your brain is only about ~20% or so of gray matter – and gray matter is the portion which is associated with complex thinking.  The white matter represents the bulk of your brain and it is mostly there to facilitate transmission of signals for the gray matter.  This means that most of your brain is not conducive to higher thought.  So understanding that – understand that our brains place a high demand upon the rest of our body to keep it supplied with enough oxygen and blood to facilitate our currently level of cognition.  In order to foster even higher brain function – our cardio-pulmonary and circulatory systems would have to supply even more sustenance to our brains………… the expense of their own function + the rest of our body which also requires a certain level of cellular nutrition.  In short our brains are developed about as good as they can based upon what the body can supply them.  To access as noted via external devices – we must first understand where and how the bio-chemical signals which represent our memories and thought processes originate = and then be able to interface them in a coherent fashion so that our brain understands what we are trying to tell it and vice-versa in order to operate in a cogent fashion.  So while we are learning about how certain areas of the brain are associated with certain functions – that is not the same as being able to input new commands or recovering memories such as are associated with cognition.
Louis Charles Morelli
redlegagent – Thanks, by good information, you have demonstrated why Robert Beckendorff must slow down his optimism and what seems science fiction. We will wait to see how natural evolution will solve this problem ( maybe giants humans?). If you have not seen the theory of this smart scientist ( human brains developed due cocking food increasing absorption of energy), here is the link, TED TALK: By my hand, I am involved in an investigation about brain and consciousness that seems “weird” or “esoteric” by people with current world view. I am trying to get a full anatomy of the brain in 3D for superimposing the picture upon the drawing of a software diagram that works as a formula for all natural systems. If I can locate at least seven different regions/or pieces as glandules, the brain picture will fit with the formula picture, then, we can identify the specific systemic function of each piece/organ. The brain is a system in itself, so, it must have as template or blue print, this formula for systems. The second investigation is more “weird”. A surprising suggestion from the formula that I got is the explanation why we are using more the left than the right hemisphere. The brain is divided into two sides like the formula is also. In the formula there is a flow of information running in a spherical circuit but when the flow arrives to a Function 4, it is divided into two flows, one continuing the sphere and other going down towards the beginning, where is Function 1. In the brain, the trajectory of this lateral flow would be from the cortex towards the hippocampus, through the corpus callosum. Final conclusion: the human life still needs the fight for survival which needs focusing here and now and the attributes for these are at the left. We can’t lose time/energy with things beyond our survival zone, which are attributes of the right H. Then what is happening? Our thoughts happens only in half potential. When we begins a new thought, it must obey the systemic trajectory which designs the process of life’s cycle like our body. Each thought seems a living thing, with birth (must be at the hippocampal region, F1) , grow, maturation, degeneration and death. If it is useful is registered in the memory, if not, it is lost. It happens that in this still primitive phase of brain evolution, and the fight for survival, the thought as flow of energy’ information is born in F1, goes clockwise through the left h. and when arrive at the cortex, instead going to the right for to be enriched with its attributes, it quickly go down back to hippocampus. We can’t jump to a more elevated, holistic, cosmic, understanding and processing. I suspect that the effort in practices of meditation, like those Indian guys says they can reach nirvana, is the effort to push on the flow making it crossing the barrier of corpus callosum and entering into the right side. My second investigation is more “weird” yet. My formulas and models are suggesting that consciousness must be based in a more subtil network composed by biophotons, which our scientific instruments are not able to detect yet. There are too manny indications suggesting this hypothesis and, since consciousness must be a new system also based on the formula, I have indications about how is designed and evolving this network. If it will be proved existent, then, forget the problem brain/energy supply in relation to evolution and complexity of our mind, nature already has the solution: it is other kind of energy, free in space. ( ok, I told these things only as curiosity and since you like the issue about brain, maybe is your curiosity also). Cheers…

Evidence for Evolution: Good Video and Debate with Matrix/DNA

Wednesday, August 23rd, 2017


Whatch the video, see my comments posted at the debate and copied below, and more curious evidences also copied below. Good learning!

What’s the evidence for evolution?


Our debate:

Syed Firdaus Syed Omar Syed Firdaus Syed Omar – 14 hours ago

explain the ability of reasoning from natural selection perspective, their origin?

When you are talking about why you have a trait, you simply need to ask if it helps you survive. The ability for complex thought is the sole reason that Humanity conquered the earth, if you look at our ancestors, you can see our skulls getting bigger over time. Complex thought helped us survive and thrive so natural selection kept it.
Louis Charles Morelli  Louis Charles Morelli – 8/22/2017
Good question, Syed, and as the Viktor answers, they insists to repeat the effects of natural selection, never mind how and why this phenomenon exists. Their thoughts reasonate that ” once time established a mechanism, like a piece well adjusted to a machine, it goes on and on…” If you think about that, this argument is against evolution itself: natural selection does not permit another effect of such machine, so, stopping evolution. Their most important target is to keep clearly that there is no purpose in Nature, evolution is a blind process, each evolutionary step begins with a random mutation coming from error at replication – which means that randomness is the ruler in this Universe, they believe in it. I am suspecting because 2 topics: 1) There is no absolute answer for everything in a world changing under evolution. Random mutation are the answers for everything like God was the answer for everything… 2) I search my own way and after hard work I found my own world view, which is not the right one, but it seems more reasonable. Comparative anatomy between living and non-living systems reveals the existence of a universal matrix formula which Nature has applied by 13,8 billion years for organizing matter (mass+energy) into natural systems. Or, saying it better: a unique formula creating a initial system at 13’8 billion years and this system is coming under evolution. Atoms, galaxies, plants, human bodies, are merely evolutionary shapes of a unique universal system. If this theory ( The Matrix/DNA Theory), is more complete, one difference is that there is a perfect formula which pulls this universal system into its direction – in the way that one day it will be perfect like the formula. So, this would be the cause and the reason for natural selection: it is the pushes towards the perfect final shape. So, if my theory is better than “the machine going on and on”, the normal is purposeful mutations not random: there are random mutations but it can be discarded or kept if it is anticipating what Nature is supposed to do, by any way…
Chris Mohrbacher Chris Mohrbacher 2 days ago

comparative anatomy (and DNA similarities) only demonstrates similarity, not causality. Nested Hierarchies also prove nothing as this is just people categorizing things based on the above similarities. They could be categorized in a completely different order and be equally logical. (I’m looking at you Hyena and Mongoose, classified as “cat-like…. things” ) Embryology has been debunked for decades. Species distribution doesn’t really “support” evolution… most kinds of creature has some version spread around the world. The fossil record demonstrates what has lived… not necessarily what came from what. Finding amphibian bones doesn’t suggest that it’s OUR ancestor, or the ancestor of any other non-amphibian. Which brings us down to observable evolution… and yea… that’s science. Selectively breeding dogs to generate a breed of dog with preferable traits is repeatable (science). No matter how many generations we breed, we can not take any number of dogs and breed them into a non-dog. Actual science supports specialization within a species… the idea of universal common ancestry is no less religious faith than the idea that any given pantheon of Gods used magic. Not testable, falsifiable, repeatable…. not science.
Louis Charles Morelli  Louis Charles Morelli – 8/22/2017
To: Chris
Besides the long lists of reasonable evidences, I think that when observing embryogenesis – one shape transforming into other, facing my eyes, here and now – it means that Nature alone can do it, there is a natural mechanism for doing it. The individual nature express the population nature and vice-versa. Meanwhile, there is a observable fact in embryogenesis that Darwinists are ignoring: beyond the field where individual evolution occurs ( inside the egg or the womb), there is a species that triggered the process and is the guide for the process building itself. Why not this phenomena would be projected to the whole biological evolution, or even, the cosmological evolution? Reason suggests this is the case, there is no observable process of evolution without a “shape-from-outside”. This observation could be wrong in relation to cosmological evolution, but, if it is not, a kind of creationists god ( natural and not magical), and a kind of astronomical creator like suggested by Matrix/DNA world view, could be safe. Just comparative anatomy between living and non-living natural systems leads us to calculations of causality where the final results suggests that the building block of DNA is the exactly miniaturized copy of the galactic building blocks. In this case, the species that was outside the womb that nurtured abiogenesis, was just the Milk Way. It seems that each region of this galaxy builds a component of biological system, then, transit of meteorites, comets, etc., makes that all components meets at some places…and… voila’,… we have a DNA… But, then, every process of evolution is really, an inside process of a bigger one: reproduction. It means that there was no origins of life, merely the continuation of a natural genetic process coming from cosmological evolution. And so on…
eeeaten  eeeaten 1 hour ago 

sorry louis, as a biologist this made zero sense to me
No sorry, it is natural. I am a naturalist, my world view was built in the field – the Amazon jungle, yours, in the lab. I applied the systemic method, you applies the reductionist method. And so on, two investigations where all methods are different, it results into two different world views. The difference is that you don’t know mine and I know yours. It doesn’t matter here if one makes sense to the other or not. I think that yours does not make sense since that you have broken universal evolution into two blocks – cosmological and biological evolution – with no evolutionary link between them. So, one need to fit the abyss between the two blocks with magical thinking, like magical gods or magical randomness. Then, one will believe that there was an event of life’s origins at Earth due action of some force coming outside the long chain of causes and effects since the Big Bang. This is the prejudice for academic sciences today. Since I didn’t break universal natural history and found the link which shows that there are no non-living systems before biological ones, I am satisfied with the sense that my world view expresses to me. But, common sense or not is not a good scientific tool. If we want to debate our theories we must be attained at the common known proved facts. So my first question: the transformations of a body under embryogenesis, from the simplest to most complex, is not evolution?

Curious evidences for Evolucao:

( Useful information from our friend, Randall Wilks ) Randall Wilks  Randall Wilks – 8/22/2017

EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION – Vestigial Human Traits
Just as humans inherit characteristics of their nearest relatives, each of us has characteristics inherited from more distant relatives. In the inner corners of your eyes you have what is called a semilunar fold or plica semilunaris. There is a muscle attached to it, but it doesn’t do anything in humans. In many other animals (sharks, frogs birds, your cat), however, that muscle controls a transparent incitating membrane or “third eyelid” that can be drawn over the eye. Proponents of ‘intelligent design’ have no explanation as to why humans have those muscles. They are perfectly consistent with evolutionary theory as vestigial remnants of an ancestral characteristic.
You also have three sets of muscles attached to your ears. In other animals, those muscles turn the ears to focus on the direction of a sound. This ability is found in monkeys, most of which cannot turn their head horizontally. Humans and the other apes can turn their heads vertically and the ability to move the ears is largely lost in those species. Using sensitive electronic devices, researches find that the human brain is sending nerve impulses to those muscles in response to sounds, but the most any human can do is a bit of a wiggle. Proponents of ‘intelligent design’ have no explanation as to why humans have those muscles. They are perfectly consistent with evolutionary theory as vestigial remnants of an ancestral characteristic. Then there is the Plantaris Muscle, which in other primates facilitates arboreal lifestyle, allowing the feet to function much the same as hands in gripping branches. The human foot has lost this ability, rather early on it seems, in the process of becoming bipedal. The muscle, however, is still there. It is a long pencil thin muscle and tendons running down the back of the calf, that are extremely painful when ruptured and often misdiagnosed as a more serious injury. This injury, often called “Tennis Leg” occurs most frequently in athletes over 40 due to the tendon and attachments becoming more brittle. With or without treatment, the two ends of the rupture will shrivel and disappear within weeks with no loss of function in the leg. It is indeed one of evolution’s leftovers. It is often harvested for reconstructive surgery elsewhere in the body. That these muscles are still present in the human body indicates that the genetic instructions for them are still present in the human genome and active to some extent.
At some point the genes for these traits may be silenced by a mutation that disables a gene (such as a premature STOP codon or frame shift) making them a pseudo gene; one which no longer produces a protein. There is evidence that is already happening as this muscle is absent in one leg or both in about 10% of the population. The same seems to be happening with wisdom teeth. In the wild, primate infants are capable of grasping and holding on to the mother’s fur shortly after birth, allowing the mother to pursue other activities. Human infants, because of the limited birth canal and large human brain must enter this world at a much earlier stage of physical and neuronal development. Despite that, the developing human embryo exhibits a grasping reflex in the uterus as early as 16 weeks. Even at birth, that reflex, the Palmar Grip Reflex, is incredibly strong as most parents of newborns will attest. While it is capable of supporting the child’s weight, one must exercise caution as the child may suddenly let go. This reflex may persist up to 6 months after birth. As this is of no benefit to a human child, it is vestigial.
We see vestigial structures all through nature. They remain in some cases because they have been adapted for other purposes, in others they remain simply because there has been no evolutionary advantage to eliminating them. Similarly, pseudo-genes are vestiges of previously active genes that have been disabled by some mutation and no longer produce a protein. There are some 20,000 of them n the human genome, many of them remnants of Olfactory Receptor (scent receptor) genes. While humans have lost an additional 30 of these genes since our ancestral lineage separated from that of chimps, most of those pseudo-genes are hand-me-downs from even more remote relatives, but disabled by exactly the same mutations, again evidence of common ancestry. They certainly do not support the idea of “intelligent design”. They are however, completely consistent with the Theory of Evolution.
Geographic Distribution of Species
As one travels from one isolated landmass, to another, one sees patterns that fit with evolutionary theory. The mammals populating the Australasian landmass (including New Guinea) prior to man’s arrival were virtually all Marsupials; kangaroos, wombats, koalas, quolls, thylacenes, et al; found nowhere else in the world, and egg laying Monotremes (Platypus and Echidnas) also found nowhere else in the world. Indeed, prior to the coming of man who brought the dingo, the only placental mammals were those that could swim there (seal) and those that could fly there (bats). It is very obvious that mammalian evolution took a quite different turn in that isolated landmass.
New Zealand as well tells of a different evolutionary history. With no native mammals, except again for those able to fly (bats) or swim (seals) there, birds assumed the ecological roles filled by mammals elsewhere. In the absence of ground dwelling predators, many birds abandoned energy consuming flight, the Kakapo, Kiwi and Moa among them. The wing of the kiwi is a mere vestige, no bigger than your little finger, with an equally useless claw at its end. Other isolated islands, Mauritania and Madagascar, also had their own unique flora and fauna, as did geologically recent islands such as the Hawaiian Archipelago. There, the science of comparative genomics shows that another species of finch underwent adaptive radiation into the at one time 55 species of Honey creepers of which only 18 survive. The same is true of many plants whose ancestral seeds found their way to these islands. The many species of the beautiful Hawaiian Silver Sword and their relatives, collectively known as the Hawaiian Silver Sword Alliance, are an example of adaptive radiation in plants over millions of years from an ancestral pacific coast tarweed. We have Polar Bears in the Arctic and Penguins in the Antarctic similar environments totally different biota. Charles Darwin made remarkable observations 150 years ago and since then biologists, geneticists, geologists, biochemists and other related fields have continued to do so and in every case further evidence is accumulated in support of what is now called the Modern Synthesis of Evolution.